Humans are the Strongest Race ~Starting a Slow Life with an Elf Wife in a Different World~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 1

[guih34]

this is so trash, I don't know why I'm reading it.... Send help

 

[Dibella]

oof

 

[packnerz]

Oh another trash isekai shit. Well my taste is trash tho.

Spoiler

Then what if they drink semen? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Velsy]

urgh... another trash... ooh the torment I go through, just to find the good or interesting Isekais. Its like digging in a garbage dump just to find the gems hidden beneath.

 

[Vahlokdotiid]

furries BTFO.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

I wonder what the reason the ancient super-powerful race (Humans, in this case) is extinct in this story is.

 

[MarqFJA87]

So much complaining that just rehashes the same "arguments" no matter what story is being complained about. Don't like it? Then don't continue reading and more importantly, save your whining for people who actually want to listen to it.

@bushwhacker2k: My guess is unintentional self-genocide via global war.

 

[StarGasm]

@bushwhacker2k That and were all of them all-powerful? Or were there rankings?

 

[Blackkid121]

Somewhat reminds me of Parallel world (Border-Line hentai)

 

[0takuDragonSlayer]

@MarqFJA87
Yeah but can't the same be said for you?
If you don't like people using freedom of speech then don't go into the comment section right?

 

[MarqFJA87]

@0takuDragonSlayer: I go to the comment section because I can find a lot of things in there that aren't incessant and uncreative whining. In fact, I usually find exactly those things in the comment sections of most manga that I visit on this site.

Also, your freedom of speech ends where it becomes publicly disruptive, so can it with the "MUH FREEDUHMS" bullshit.

 

[0takuDragonSlayer]

@MarqFJA87
Except no one has "disrupted" anything.
Neither are any of the points brought up so far necessarily false.
As funny as hell this manga is(imo) it's an admittedly pretty weak and lazy start even by Isekai standards.
Plus no one ever said the comment section was for praise only.
So I don't see how it's BS when last I checked when you make a comic and present it to the world criticism is guaranteed to come your way.

 

[MarqFJA87]

@0takuDragonSlayer:

Except no one has "disrupted" anything.

I am not going to wait until the disruption that I've seen inevitably result from such whining to manifest here. Preemption is a thing.

Neither are any of the points brought up so far necessarily false.

Actually, they are. You're assuming that you have a right to annoy people with uncreative complaints about the entire genre in the comment sections of every single instance of said genre, and hiding behind "MUH FREEDUMS" to give yourself a veneer of undeserved respectability. You know who you sound like? Modern white supremacists in the USA.

Oh, and for the record, freedom of speech only protects you from being censored by the government; it does not protect you from other people taking offense to what you said and deciding to personally shut you up, even if they resort to violent means to do it (though that may run afoul of other laws).

As funny as hell this manga is(imo) it's an admittedly pretty weak and lazy start even by Isekai standards.

That's your subjective opinion and your entitled to hold it. Just don't go and pretend that it's objective by any means until you present a very solid argument behind it that convinces enough people to prove itself and yourself credible.

Plus no one ever said the comment section was for praise only.

Neither have I.

So I don't see how it's BS when last I checked when you make a comic and present it to the world criticism is guaranteed to come your way.

It's BS when you attempt to disguise petty whining and subjective dislike as valid and objective criticism.

 

[0takuDragonSlayer]

@MarqFJA87
Preemption? What are you trying to stop? People complaining even more? Hate to break it to you but thats not gonna stop.
Especially seeing as how grips and complaints exist in the comment section of nearly every online manga. Even One Piece gets complaints, what makes you think this wouldn’t?

You pretty much do have the right to do that, at least without taking your opinions to far. Just like you and me have the right to enjoy or praise this manga for(so far) being fun other people have the right to hate it.
I'm not gonna talk about how much i fuckin love My Hero Academia, Zatch Bell, and Psyren but then get pissy when I find people who hate it or have issues with it. Especially as a writer in training.
If all i find online is praise I miss out on different and honestly educational view points that might help me in the future.

That's your subjective opinion and your entitled to hold it. Just don't go and pretend that it's objective by any means until you present a very solid argument behind it that convinces enough people to prove itself and yourself credible.

I know, thats why I said imo, AKA, in my opinion. I’m just saying I can see WHY peeps have an issue with this manga. Not that they are objectively right.

It's BS when you attempt to disguise petty whining and subjective dislike as valid and objective criticism.

But most of the criticism here is pretty objective. Especially after reading this story several chapters further in. However more to the point, the genre, much like SO many others, DOES have issues that need to be addressed if not avoided until an answer can be found. So far as much as this manga has put a smile on my face after a SUPER shitty final exam filled month I gotta admit it so far doesn’t even try to stand out from the crowd in ways that matter. First impressions matter a lot. Knowing that I can see why people would get irritated.

 

[MarqFJA87]

@0takuDragonSlayer:

Preemption? What are you trying to stop? People complaining even more? Hate to break it to you but thats not gonna stop.
Especially seeing as how grips and complaints exist in the comment section of nearly every online manga. Even One Piece gets complaints, what makes you think this wouldn’t?

Preempting the disruption of a public comment section with an endless stream of the same generic complaints over and over again with practically no reasonable explanations provided whatsoever, drowning out any attempts at constructive discussion of the chapter (be it praise, valid criticism, or simply noting interesting aspects) and driving away people who don't share these complaints from visiting the comment sections for the aforementioned constructive discussions.

Gripes and complaints are one thing. Repeating the same gripes and complaints in every example of a genre to the point of flooding them is a different beast altogether and deserves nothing but utter scorn and public censure. Just fuck off and make a "why isekai manga suck in general" thread and pour your hateful vitriol there, for God's sake!

You pretty much do have the right to do that, at least without taking your opinions to far.

Bold of you to say that when you're guilty of taking your opinions beyond what you have a right to.

Just like you and me have the right to enjoy or praise this manga for(so far) being fun other people have the right to hate it.

Just because you have a right to hate something doesn't equate to you having a right to constantly proclaim your hate every single time the topic comes up.

I'm not gonna talk about how much i fuckin love My Hero Academia, Zatch Bell, and Psyren but then get pissy when I find people who hate it or have issues with it. Especially as a writer in training.

I only get pissy when haters believe it's fine to drown out forum discussions and comment sections with their hate just because people who like the works in question exist and want to have discussions about them that are about more than the negatives.

If all i find online is praise I miss out on different and honestly educational view points that might help me in the future.

Replace "praise" with "hate" and you get the crux of what I'm doing here.

I know, thats why I said imo, AKA, in my opinion. I’m just saying I can see WHY peeps have an issue with this manga. Not that they are objectively right.

You've certainly done a good job portraying yourself otherwise, if I managed to completely gloss over the "IMO" part as applying to what preceded it rather than what followed it (though the parantheses are probably a big reason why).

But most of the criticism here is pretty objective. Especially after reading this story several chapters further in.

Exactly how did you manage to divine that fact when most of the "criticism" here is just variations of "I hate it" or "it's trash", with not a single explanation as to why, and the rest are pretty much missing the point of the premise/genre?

However more to the point, the genre, much like SO many others, DOES have issues that need to be addressed if not avoided until an answer can be found. So far as much as this manga has put a smile on my face after a SUPER shitty final exam filled month I gotta admit it so far doesn’t even try to stand out from the crowd in ways that matter. First impressions matter a lot. Knowing that I can see why people would get irritated.

You keep saying issues, but you do nothing to explain what they are.
You say it doesn't even try to stand out, but the very premise by itself does that plenty, and you seem to ignore the fact that the nature of the genre does make it very difficult if not impossible to avoid operating by certain conventions and tropes (e.g. showing the MC slowly progressing through their training).
Excuse me for having serious doubt about your credibility as a critic.

 

[0takuDragonSlayer]

@MarqFJA87
Well so far none of the stuff you're trying to stop has happened. From this chapter forward constructive critics have still been coming, people are still commenting casually as well as consistently, and no one is being "driven away".

When writers keep making the same old writing mistakes or abusing the same tropes with no nuance there is gonna be back lash. That's just common cause and effect. As i pointed out before no story is too good for it. I never said Isekai all suck, that's just your own false assumption.

Bold of you to say that when you're guilty of taking your opinions beyond what you have a right to.

Guilty of what? Stating multiple times that I think people should be free to hate or love certain types of Manga? Cuz so far that's all I've done. I think this is a funny work in progress of a manga. That's it.

Just because you have a right to hate something doesn't equate to you having a right to constantly proclaim your hate every single time the topic comes up.

I only get pissy when haters believe it's fine to drown out forum discussions and comment sections with their hate just because people who like the works in question exist and want to have discussions about them that are about more than the negatives.

Gripes and complaints are one thing. Repeating the same gripes and complaints in every example of a genre to the point of flooding them is a different beast altogether and deserves nothing but utter scorn and public censure.

Dude, what do you think the block button is for? Seriously, you're acting as if u and everybody else on this site can't just ignore other users on a whim. Why do you think everybody just ends up blocking the user monkey 13 and his annoying af antics? Cuz he took freedom of speech to a ridiculous level. Yet for some reason the mods here don't want to get rid of him.

Exactly how did you manage to divine that fact when most of the "criticism" here is just variations of "I hate it" or "it's trash", with not a single explanation as to why, and the rest are pretty much missing the point of the premise/genre?

Looks like you ignored Aretheus's comments and the comments of other chapters. A premise\genre can have a point but if the execution is poor well then you get this. Its why Stories like rising of The Shield hero and konosuba get more praise while shows like Fairy Tail and sword art online receive almost ridiculous amounts of scorn. There is a clear Gap in effort and enginuity between the stories.

You keep saying issues, but you do nothing to explain what they are.
You say it doesn't even try to stand out, but the very premise by itself does that plenty, and you seem to ignore the fact that the nature of the genre does make it very difficult if not impossible to avoid operating by certain conventions and tropes (e.g. showing the MC slowly progressing through their training).
Excuse me for having serious doubt about your credibility as a critic.

You mean besides the basic harem MC gifted with the broken power from the start just for being human or brought to a new world? Not to mention his very inhuman responses to the situation as a whole? Like believing the bandit that tried to kill him moments later and letting him off with no consequences what so ever. Not to mention how little sense it makes for the MC to hide to prevent war. The first few chapters establish he is in fact a god here and could more than likely stop the war on his own just by holding the planet it's self hostage. He wouldn't even have to be serious about actually blowing it up. The world's inhabitants already believe his power is worth starting all-out war with every other country despite the catastrophic number of people that would likely kill before any rewards could be gained. The premise alone makes the same mistake as many stories that come before (not just esekai) by eliminating any real sense tension or difficulty from the start.

Just because it's a mainstream genre doesn't mean adding nuance and clever subversion isn't something writers shouldn't all aspire to. It comes down to the writer's own creativity and choice of execution. Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist never actually increases his fighting capabilities after we are first introduced to him and he's a Shonen protagonist. Nor does he end the story after having become the strongest.

Rising of The Shield hero actually explores why getting sent to another world would actually suck more than it would rock. We have a believable protagonist who actually wants to go home instead of living the rest of his life fighting demons and Dragons. He's not even gifted with the best weapon or resources and has to rely on a slave to fight for him at the beginning. And even when he does eventually get an offensive ability the drawbacks end up making him wonder if it's even worth it.

Do I think this story is trash so far? No, we haven't even gotten the chance to get through the first major arc. Do I think the ground work, lore, power system/levels could've used some work? Honestly yeah, but so far this story is a hell of a lot better than some of the REAL bad reads/watches out there like "In another world with my smartphone", "Conception", "My Sister, My Writer". At least the writer here has a legitimately solid and healthy sense of humor.

 

[Reshfan]

@packnerz
Mutated baby (half human - half elf): Allow us to introduce ourselves

 

[Glomoro]

Am I the only one who loses all motivation to look through a comment section when I see a wall of text, let alone two on the initial scroll down? It's like "Right then, let's just move along."

 

[RangoBongo]

@Glomoro
me too man, people take these things very seriously
if i see an isekai i just turn off my brain and enjoy wasting my life away

 

[i_need_SMUUUT]

@packnerz
Then what if they drink semen? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Good point