Hyouketsu Reijou-sama wo Follow Shitara, Mechamecha Dekiai Sareteshimatta Ken - Ch. 9

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Anyone else just hate the planned engagement shit these manga's do? its so fucking obnoxious and exists just to make the story longer before they get together. I WANT ROMANCE NOT DRAMA :aquadrink:
Tbh, i might drop it if the drama just gets worse.
Different social status always end up like this because nobles used to be like that. It's like complaining about medieval settings always having castles or sengoku period setting having samurais.
 
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a reminder MC isn't your reincarnator BS character.

He's just a guy life in poverty with shitty parents. with his sister feeding his brain on how to treat women better (if my guess right, his sister is the one who is a reincarnator).

also, really hate that blonde maid/butler. just Don't hire the mc in the first place if you stabbing him from the back like that (isn't she the one reporting him to lady father in previous chapter?)
 
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I swear the lead servant was flatter before.
Anyway, what if I told you... there was a doujin inspired by this series? :meguusmug: 585632, starting page 11.

Thanks for the translation!
It is very odd because her boobs disappear once she starts walking away

I was like "Oh shit she is busty now! and... they are gone..."
 
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More like maya, that cunt snitch.
Not enough maya hate in this thread, tbh. You could argue that she had the right idea because the MC is a loser with no practical future for her (even the MC understands this), but at the cost of Alicia's happiness? Pretty steep price if you ask me.
Maya snitching on them was just a hoe move man. I liked her enough in hope for her to be the third in the relationship since she likes him too. But nah, she can forever fuck off.

You guys are aware that Maya's employer is the father, not Alicia, right? He position demands absolute loyalty to the head of the house, and if he orders her to inform him of any events regarding her daughter, she has no agency to not tell him. You guys should be aware that Maya's situation is not that much different from Gray: she has a lot to lose if she makes a mistake and has very little agency to allow things like these, since the servants' mistakes and indiscretions are ultimately her responsibility and will be held accountable.

Or what, she stays quiet and consciously keeps such a thing from the duke? Seeing that Alicia was openly flirting with Gray it was a matter of time the duke would have discovered it, and then what? Good luck finding employment again as a servant after such a betrayal of trust. And to reach head of servants being one is the only thing she knows which probably includes the "loyal servant" mindset, as shown this chapter. She had no other option, because if she didn't inform him, it would have been not only GRay's but also hers the asses on the street for this.

Also, the duke says that Maya has informed him, but no what she said about him. She could have just informed him that a new servant has been hired, his profile, his performance (probably including his translations) and his appointment as personal servant. Of course, she could also have informed him of Alicia's affections, but it doesn't seem to me the duke was aware until they caught them red-handed and he didn't mention Maya informed him of it. The fact that even after being caught all "lovey-dovey" with a duke's daughter and Gray not being fired or worse in the spot maybe has something to do with Maya's reports.
 
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You guys are aware that Maya's employer is the father, not Alicia, right? He position demands absolute loyalty to the head of the house, and if he orders her to inform him of any events regarding her daughter, she has no agency to not tell him. You guys should be aware that Maya's situation is not that much different from Gray: she has a lot to lose if she makes a mistake and has very little agency to allow things like these, since the servants' mistakes and indiscretions are ultimately her responsibility and will be held accountable.

Or what, she stays quiet and consciously keeps such a thing from the duke? Seeing that Alicia was openly flirting with Gray it was a matter of time the duke would have discovered it, and then what? Good luck finding employment again as a servant after such a betrayal of trust. And to reach head of servants being one is the only thing she knows which probably includes the "loyal servant" mindset, as shown this chapter. She had no other option, because if she didn't inform him, it would have been not only GRay's but also hers the asses on the street for this.

Also, the duke says that Maya has informed him, but no what she said about him. She could have just informed him that a new servant has been hired, his profile, his performance (probably including his translations) and his appointment as personal servant. Of course, she could also have informed him of Alicia's affections, but it doesn't seem to me the duke was aware until they caught them red-handed and he didn't mention Maya informed him of it. The fact that even after being caught all "lovey-dovey" with a duke's daughter and Gray not being fired or worse in the spot maybe has something to do with Maya's reports.

On the other hand, Maya snitching is stupid because Alicia is her future employer. Once the Duke croaks, Alicia is in charge of the family servants. Do you think Maya will have a job after that? After making a show of how Alicia can't trust her?

It's made clear Alicia's father hasn't bothered with her for years, so if Maya hadn't snitched, the Duke wouldn't have even bothered to visit.

If anything, Maya going to Gray and talking about how he was reaching above his station (even if it's true) reeks of Maya just being jealous Gray is just better at his job than she is at hers.
 
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On the other hand, Maya snitching is stupid because Alicia is her future employer. Once the Duke croaks, Alicia is in charge of the family servants. Do you think Maya will have a job after that? After making a show of how Alicia can't trust her?
That would be correct except for an obvious thing: Alicia's a woman. I know, it's obvious, but that means more often than not that she's going to either marry into another house or their future husband would marry into the ducal house inheriting all the ducal authority. In any case, it will be very difficult for Alicia to retaliate against Maya because anything she says would be easily overruled by the actual house head.
It's made clear Alicia's father hasn't bothered with her for years, so if Maya hadn't snitched, the Duke wouldn't have even bothered to visit.
Because a ducal daughter getting publicly lovey-dovey with a servant is a shitstorm scandal waiting to happen. Sure, it happens everywhere behind closed doors, but this is not the case. Specially since Alicia has a shaky reputation and such thing might be the final nail.
If anything, Maya going to Gray and talking about how he was reaching above his station (even if it's true) reeks of Maya just being jealous Gray is just better at his job than she is at hers.
You forget that Maya doesn't need to do something like that for any reason: the post of Head Servant is not going to be taken by Gray (he doesn't want it and Alicia wouldn't allow it) and she doesn't think there's any danger of her being demoted if she does things right. If anything, Maya appears to me to run a tight ship and not wanting for anything unsavoury to happen with the service which would tarnish the house reputation. And a servant getting frisky with the house masters, no matter how reciprocal it is, it's a VERY unsavoury issue and would tarnish the house reputation for a long time.

I think many readers had the message of this chapter fly over their heads: a Gray and Alicia romantic relationship cannot happen nilly-willy for very understandable practical and societal reasons and everyone has made very heavy-handed but true points about it this chapter.
 
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You forget that Maya doesn't need to do something like that for any reason: the post of Head Servant is not going to be taken by Gray (he doesn't want it and Alicia wouldn't allow it) and she doesn't think there's any danger of her being demoted if she does things right. If anything, Maya appears to me to run a tight ship and not wanting for anything unsavoury to happen with the service which would tarnish the house reputation. And a servant getting frisky with the house masters, no matter how reciprocal it is, it's a VERY unsavoury issue and would tarnish the house reputation for a long time.

I think many readers had the message of this chapter fly over their heads: a Gray and Alicia romantic relationship cannot happen nilly-willy for very understandable practical and societal reasons and everyone has made very heavy-handed but true points about it this chapter.
Agreed. Look at period dramas based on this world's history. In Downton Abbey, Tom liking Sybil would have been grounds for dismissal if anyone knew beyond suspicions. Later, after they marry and Sybil dies, one of the new maids showing interest in Tom is justification to fire her.

People weren't supposed to move beyond their stations. Short of Gray doing something incredibly heroic, like a common soldier on the battlefield being rewarded with a knighthood for some act of heroism and success, he won't end up even a lower rank of nobility.

And while men could fool around with women, Alicia must remain as pure as winter snow to retain her name and dignity in the eyes of society. Suspected hanky-panky with a servant is not allowed.
 
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Maya snitching on them was just a hoe move man. I liked her enough in hope for her to be the third in the relationship since she likes him too. But nah, she can forever fuck off.
Maya is employed by the Duke. Not Alicia. She has always had to answer to him. And for a commoner servant to get into a relationship with the Daughter of a Duke is absolute madness that has to be reported.
 
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You guys are aware that Maya's employer is the father, not Alicia, right? He position demands absolute loyalty to the head of the house, and if he orders her to inform him of any events regarding her daughter, she has no agency to not tell him. You guys should be aware that Maya's situation is not that much different from Gray: she has a lot to lose if she makes a mistake and has very little agency to allow things like these, since the servants' mistakes and indiscretions are ultimately her responsibility and will be held accountable.

Or what, she stays quiet and consciously keeps such a thing from the duke? Seeing that Alicia was openly flirting with Gray it was a matter of time the duke would have discovered it, and then what? Good luck finding employment again as a servant after such a betrayal of trust. And to reach head of servants being one is the only thing she knows which probably includes the "loyal servant" mindset, as shown this chapter. She had no other option, because if she didn't inform him, it would have been not only GRay's but also hers the asses on the street for this.

Also, the duke says that Maya has informed him, but no what she said about him. She could have just informed him that a new servant has been hired, his profile, his performance (probably including his translations) and his appointment as personal servant. Of course, she could also have informed him of Alicia's affections, but it doesn't seem to me the duke was aware until they caught them red-handed and he didn't mention Maya informed him of it. The fact that even after being caught all "lovey-dovey" with a duke's daughter and Gray not being fired or worse in the spot maybe has something to do with Maya's reports.
While all of this is more or less true, problem with "backstabber" maids in these stories is that after their initial backstabbing, they are continued to be portraited as someone of the inner circle. She is obviously looking out for herself and her primary employer (at least so far) but after this drama or whatever is over, she will most likely still be treated as a regular close aide by the MC and FMC. What really needs to happen is that she should be kept out of any personal interactions going forward as much as possible considering she is literally spying for the head (well it is his house but you don't HAVE to involve her in everything and you can just exclude her from events as much as possible). She needs to be treated as an enemy. By the story most of all. But that won't happen.
 
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I'm just saying, in the past it was incredibly rare to marry someone out of romantic love. Marriage served a political function or were simply a financial boon to the family. Heck, in many ways a marriage was a monetary exchange straight-up. It wouldn't at all be out of question for her to find a marriage partner that doesn't want her physical or emotional love. She could marry someone and both of them be openly in a relationship with. That wouldn't even be seen as that out of place (maybe for a woman; double standards and all but at worst just keep the relationship with Gray in the house).
 
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As a note and mentioned in previous chapters, the LN have a different story focus from the WN, and the manga is following the LN so the WN spoilers are kinda null for alot of parts
Do you know if the fiance is part of the LN or the WN?
 
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Of course the fiancé is going to be a douchebag. And no one can realistically do anything against him because of social status

but maybe Gray is cooking Something in secret
 
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While all of this is more or less true, problem with "backstabber" maids in these stories is that after their initial backstabbing, they are continued to be portraited as someone of the inner circle. She is obviously looking out for herself and her primary employer (at least so far) but after this drama or whatever is over, she will most likely still be treated as a regular close aide by the MC and FMC. What really needs to happen is that she should be kept out of any personal interactions going forward as much as possible considering she is literally spying for the head (well it is his house but you don't HAVE to involve her in everything and you can just exclude her from events as much as possible). She needs to be treated as an enemy. By the story most of all. But that won't happen.
She's the head maid and again, employed by Dad who actually has the power. Good luck with such a ridiculous demand.

Also if she was actually the enemy, Gray would have been fired for how he's behaving right now without any regret. Not egging him on by dropping info. She's had multiple chances even before her boss got involved, so she obviously is on their side.
 
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so she obviously is on their side.
Someone who is actually on their side would inform MC beforehand (of father visit and/or the fiancé situation. Instead of ambushing both of them and shitting on him aswell). I'm sure if Gray was fired, it would look very badly on her too since he is her subordinate. She is only on her own side. She is also withholding information only from the MCs side. I'm sure it will revealed later on that she did all this to help them out in the long run or some shit since that's what always happens with badly written characters like this.
 
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Someone who is actually on their side would inform MC beforehand (of father visit and/or the fiancé situation. Instead of ambushing both of them and shitting on him aswell). I'm sure if Gray was fired, it would look very badly on her too since he is her subordinate. She is only on her own side. She is also withholding information only from the MCs side. I'm sure it will revealed later on that she did all this to help them out in the long run or some shit since that's what always happens with badly written characters like this.
It looks like it was a surprise visit even to the staff, because there was little preparation to greet him. Same with the finacee arrangement, since dad also points out how hard it was to marry her off due to her rep and knows she would sabotage it if she knew like the others.

Also telling him would have had the same argument happen anyway because Alicia would still react the same upon knowing and still be hurt by Grey pointing out reality.

Finally it wouldnt look bad on the head maid to have fired him because of Alicia's rep. Just another servant driven away by her bad attitude like so many others. Grey could have even been actually shit on as someone trying to take advantage if Head Maid was really was that bitch.

Still, we have to see how things turn out. Whole thing might be a ruse by Dad to begin with or head maid actually coaching Alicia on the side.
 

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