I Left my A-Rank Party to Help My Former Students Reach the Dungeon Depths! - Ch. 66 - A Letter from Jamie

[Crewbee]

Go get him clover! Make that evil bastard pay dearly!! Thanks for the translation!

 

[IJustReadEverything]

Damn she’s dead?

Nah, she had that invisibility thing that she went unnoticed. We can still assume that she's still stuck down there and they'll go and rescue her later on.

 

[lightingcloud]

Oh no a revenge arc please no. The one with the dark goddess was so good, why are we subject to this torture, now?

 

[Neneo2SE]

Just release that footage video to the public via guild. Hell if you can, send it also to the king or whatever highest ruler there.
Also I still don’t understand some things at this point.
1. If I remember correctly, there should be some things like recording device that should be ON everytime any group enter that dungeon. Whatever happen to that device? Is that device conveniently OFF during that whole horrible event?
2. How come that trash group can still enter the dungeon? CMIIW, are they banned from entering?

 

[gearsky]

totally agree it is on character, just think that him being angry could have been conveyed better

Were you and I reading the same chapter? Did you not see the look on his face as he said that line? Man's furious.

Edit: Also, I don't know about you, but I don't think the phrase "[We're gonna make sure] he gets what he deserves" usually comes across as particularly light-hearted to begin with. Sure, they used a few more words here, but the impact is the same.

 

[DecimusVanGurren]

That Beshio guy needs to be "rehabilitated" in the Sinyala Facility, owned by Murkoff Corporation.

IMO, he looks like the perfect candi- I mean, "patient" for Doctor Easterman's new-fangled tria- I mean "method of rehabilitation".

 

[Rabby]

Damn she’s dead?

She isnt dead

 

[dowiet]

Looks like Beshio is next on the chopping block

 

[ChrosisOria]

Were you and I reading the same chapter? Did you not see the look on his face as he said that line? Man's furious.

Edit: Also, I don't know about you, but I don't think the phrase "[We're gonna make sure] he gets what he deserves" usually comes across as particularly light-hearted to begin with. Sure, they used a few more words here, but the impact is the same.

yea the look on is face shows that he is proper pissed, it's the phrasing in the end that sorta took the edge of, I actually like the build-up from when he finds out the person behind this

 

[Wyrm]

That's nice and all, but her letter was only useful because of the crazy Deux Ex of crumbling staircase.
Barring that, the contract would have been signed and the girls of Clover enslaved.
Pretty sure that, by the time she went to some authorities after that, assuming she even gathered the will to do it then, the girls would have already been sent off to the noble and traumatized for life, at best.

Jamie should have gone to the authorities with her collected evidence before they went back into the dungeon.

This story has been off since the dungeon stairs broke down. Hopefully we get back to normal after we're done with this arc.

 

[DeadKinginHell]

Damn she’s dead?

Dead she is

 

[huttingham]

That's nice and all, but her letter was only useful because of the crazy Deux Ex of crumbling staircase.
Barring that, the contract would have been signed and the girls of Clover enslaved.
Pretty sure that, by the time she went to some authorities after that, assuming she even gathered the will to do it then, the girls would have already been sent off to the noble and traumatized for life, at best.

Jamie should have gone to the authorities with her collected evidence before they went back into the dungeon.

This story has been off since the dungeon stairs broke down. Hopefully we get back to normal after we're done with this arc.

what is normal? normal to me is that they go into a dungeon, get pushed past their limits, and either unclepilled/deus ex'd to safety or power of friendshipped to power up. The only abnormal part that happened after the staircase is an added flavor of anger as opposed to pure desperation.

But yeah that the letter and evidence would've been useless. maybe she thought that the evidence would've been shaken off if brought to the authorities preemptively (esp given the rich guy sponsor). I've definitely heard of that as a reason to not be hasty with calling the cops but who knows if that's what the author was going for. still a bit dumb tho

 

[Wyrm]

what is normal? normal to me is that they go into a dungeon, get pushed past their limits, and either unclepilled/deus ex'd to safety or power of friendshipped to power up. The only abnormal part that happened after the staircase is an added flavor of anger as opposed to pure desperation.

But yeah that the letter and evidence would've been useless. maybe she thought that the evidence would've been shaken off if brought to the authorities preemptively (esp given the rich guy sponsor). I've definitely heard of that as a reason to not be hasty with calling the cops but who knows if that's what the author was going for. still a bit dumb tho

"What is normal?"
That's a pretty deep question. In the context of this manga, I'm talking about the storyline with the queen of the underworld. And the overall story of Clover aiming for the conquest of this dungeon.
The former party has far outlived its welcome in the story. Simon in particular should have been under surveillance after what he pulled, even as he got a "get out of jail" free card from a noble.

"maybe she thought that the evidence would've been shaken off"
Simon has already caused an international incident, so both the guild and the kingdom would have been alerted on his activities. If anything, they would have jumped at the opportunity to get rid of him in a more permanent way.

 

[huttingham]

"What is normal?"
That's a pretty deep question. In the context of this manga, I'm talking about the storyline with the queen of the underworld. And the overall story of Clover aiming for the conquest of this dungeon.
The former party has far outlived its welcome in the story. Simon in particular should have been under surveillance after what he pulled, even as he got a "get out of jail" free card from a noble.

"maybe she thought that the evidence would've been shaken off"
Simon has already caused an international incident, so both the guild and the kingdom would have been alerted on his activities. If anything, they would have jumped at the opportunity to get rid of him in a more permanent way.

not really commenting on the first bit since i think we just disagree about what is in the realm of normal for this series but specifically for the "maybe she thought..." bit, I generally agree with you, but we're speaking about this from an objective outsider's perspective. If we're giving the author some credit, the logic of "i know my abuser is about to do something but wouldn't this put me in more danger and who would take me seriously" is a real thing and this logic is compounded by the whole rich sugar daddy that already weaseled them out of hot water. Not to mention she is a part of that group doing the illegal activity which adds an extra layer to the self-preservation thing. In other words, long-time abuse victims tend not to be the best at viewing their situation from outside perspectives.

 

[ddulz]

After whole bullshit with thunderpike, make me kinda not looking forward with whole revenge plan, I mean all of this not gonna happen if MC do something earlier to these shitty party.

 

[Dennis-aka-Denji]

Looks like she decided to act when they crossed the line. Good job she got all the evidence they needed. Going into that situation expecting to die must have taken some spine. Definitely earned that redemption.

All she had to do was take the evidence to the guild top brass before TP made their move. It's just so blatantly stupid, but I guess huge plotholes are the least of this manga's problems...

 

[Wyrm]

not really commenting on the first bit since i think we just disagree about what is in the realm of normal for this series but specifically for the "maybe she thought..." bit, I generally agree with you, but we're speaking about this from an objective outsider's perspective. If we're giving the author some credit, the logic of "i know my abuser is about to do something but wouldn't this put me in more danger and who would take me seriously" is a real thing and this logic is compounded by the whole rich sugar daddy that already weaseled them out of hot water. Not to mention she is a part of that group doing the illegal activity which adds an extra layer to the self-preservation thing. In other words, long-time abuse victims tend not to be the best at viewing their situation from outside perspectives.

Part of this is not wrong... but a lot is.

I was saying that this didn't really earned her a redemption because her actions are basically meaningless.
Without the Deus Ex in the form of crumbling staircase, which made absolutely zero sense, this evidence collection would have been wasted completely. At best, she would have delivered it after the noble had obtained Rain and probably traumatized her for life. Assuming they even got her back. Assuming, as I said before, that she even got the courage to act then.

What did earn her a bit of redemption was her casting a spell on Clover to slow the fall when the staircase broke down. And then preventing Simon from ruining the escape. But that's completely unrelated to the evidence collection. This letter only brings her a little sympathy as a kind of victim... which she was really not. Yoke was the abuse victim and she was a bystander who didn't dare to raise her voice because she needed the job. That's fine, people are not all strong enough to sacrifice their life and job for others, but that doesn't make her a victim. (At least not in light of what we know in the manga. The novel might be different but it's not in debate here.) Also, from the actual victim's perspective, she was as much an abuser as the others.

So the collected evidence simply was a pointless endeavor without the unpredictable (and logically impossible) circumstances that let it become useful in the end. Based on what she knew and did at the time she collected it, that was at best a way for her to assuage her guilt a little. In character, it was not meant to be helpful to Clover. It was a storytelling device, which is a reason based on the required (and flawed) flow of events, not based on character motivation.

And that's why I mind it. Because it's meant to garner sympathy for her that she didn't earn (at least not with this). She earned a bit of sympathy with her actions in the dungeon, but everything she did before then was devoid of meaning. This letter didn't get a single tear of sympathy out of me.

 

[Seraphus]

MC Yoke asking why he is so stupid, and I'm like: Same, bro; same. Why are you so fucking stupid?

 

[ShinduPK4]

It's not his fault? But this IS his fault, at least partly. He prioritized safety of rapists, kidnappers and slavers over the one of his very own party and Jamie. What a naive bastard.

 

[Coldlight]

"Why am I so... Stupid...!?"

I mean, he's not wrong, but his stupidity is mostly because of bad writing. It beggars belief that he'd be suddenly negligent enough not to plan for an escape using the scroll before they met Persephone. His planning was meticulous, smart and competent enough before that. It all went to shit after that plot-enforced stupidity that had him sell his soul too.

I can believe that Jamie wrote the letter beforehand, but that was a super risky move if Trash Pike's plot succeeded and Simon found her letter. It's plausible that Jamie is dead since it's been 3 days unless another party came in for the rescue. But a rule of thumb for anime and manga is that nobody is truly dead until their corpse has been seen. Using that as a guide, only Barry is dead for sure, maybe Simon too. I don't believe the orcs killed Camilla quickly, but if there's even a shred of mercy for her maybe 3 days of hell have already killed her and ended her suffering.

Fat bastard noble's turn to be brought to justice. Throw him in with the orcs too if he somehow avoids comeuppance despite Jamie's evidence.