I Left my A-Rank Party to Help My Former Students Reach the Dungeon Depths! - Vol. 4 Ch. 49 - Simon's Iron Fist Punishment!

[Dwarfy2k]

I feel like a major issue with these “kicked out of the X party so I did Y to get Z” is the authors don’t put as much detail as they should into some scenes, and stretch out menial shit longer than it needs to be.

Imo the issue with this one is the author seems to be rushing the story along. Nothing wrong with fast character growth, but when you omit history between characters and rush the plot along at the same time it ends up as sloppy storytelling.

Not to mention, the only fight scene with any amount of fighting was the shadow stalker scene- which was caked in plot armor for all 4 and resulted in minimal character development besides “we all love each other and need to work together to overcome obstacles.”

I like the world and characters this author has created, but it’s a shame they’re a sloppy storyteller that can’t paint a clear picture of conflict and resolution.

Edit: Also worth noting; the author has effectively created an illusion of rules and authority for the guild. Citizens call for guild when in trouble, guild seems to be affiliated with the kingdom considering the Rank A conditions, and there’s a minimum standard you must meet to be an adventurer as well as rules to follow.

Yet that all goes out the window when a (Kingdom approved) Rank A adventurer that’s fallen from fame spews racist shit towards the stars of a live dungeon TV broadcast.

Just two knuckle sandwiches across the face and they’re right back at the bar. No suspension of license, no ban, no jail, no impounding of equipment. Nothing. And conveniently the fat bastard that wanted to party with the 3 girls is a rich noble that’ll sponsor them so they can “get their revenge”.

Which I predict, considering the plot armor up to this point, will make minimal conflict, and if there is major conflict, Clover will conveniently have the power and support to overcome it without casualty.

I'll be shocked if the newly "sponsored" party doesn't get beaten within 3seconds again or they story does the retarded "Let's split the party up and have all the fights be 1 on 1's.

 

[DaFuxas]

Stalling. Stalling. Stalling. It’s becoming all too infuriating with how these authors are incapable of creating any conflict, any threat, and any character depth. Sandpike should’ve stayed a 5 panel bad group and forgotten. There’s literally no point to the story other than exploring the dungeon which is not being done, instead focusing on a boring “villain” (story wise) party. AUTHOR, MOVE ON.

 

[Nemo2342]

Nah. The idea behind "keeping the ex-party in game as villians or material for character growth" isn't bad at all. They know the MC's weaknesses and what triggers MC. They make for brilliant antagonistic material, IF they would be handled in the right way. But seemingly no manga or LN can get this part right.

It's great in concept, but tends to be really poor in execution. You're right, it certainly could be a good first act antagonist for the MC, to serve as a foil for what a health party should look like. And when the MC finally outdoes them and defeats their schemes, it proves that they were superior all along and we all get some catharsis.

Instead you tend to end up with the most paper-thin of antagonists. People who commit horrific crimes yet somehow never get punished by society or the hero. People who are comically stupid in their plans yet somehow are supposed to be treated as credible threats. Or my least favorite, the ones where the author just goes hard on making them repugnant (instead of threatening) so they just kill my enjoyment any time they show up.

 

[dowiet]

Did trump just walk in as a noble lol

 

[DeadKinginHell]

Yes this is getting really stupid to read.
And also... how are they THAT much retards? No seriously, have they lost every remaining brain cell?

And do we really need this fat clown becoming their sponsor? Please give us a decent villain who is actually smart, thank you very much.

They don't even have any to begin with

 

[Valhalla_101]

Hot take, the blonde wizard girl doesn’t seem as bad as the others. Based on how she’s acted so far

 

[Plain3r]

I remember one series actually had it that the MC wasn't allowed to attack how he wanted even though his magic was ineffective and didn't just use a different spell.

Are you referring to "Kouryakubon" wo Kushi Suru Saikyou no Mahoutsukai / The Strongest Sorcerer Who Makes Full Use of the "Strategy Guide" in ch.1?
https://mangadex.org/title/f903876b...ryakubon-wo-kushi-suru-saikyou-no-mahoutsukai

 

[Dwarfy2k]

Are you referring to "Kouryakubon" wo Kushi Suru Saikyou no Mahoutsukai / The Strongest Sorcerer Who Makes Full Use of the "Strategy Guide" in ch.1?
https://mangadex.org/title/f903876b...ryakubon-wo-kushi-suru-saikyou-no-mahoutsukai

Yes thats the one.

 

[RandomReader2023]

This story is becoming more and more dumb, really, the dude almost plunged the whole country into war and he's free to go? No punishment whatsoever?!?

 

[Bobdillan69]

That punch was a thing of beauty... but why this trash at the end.... hoe he is just using sandpike for entertainment and throws them away.

 

[Coldlight]

Well, I guess I have my answer why Trash Pike hasn't fallen apart and disbanded yet for so long. They're complete morons on top of being total assholes. Guild master let loose a couple of great punches on Fantasy Discount Shinji and laid out the consequences, but as usual they learn nothing. They're way past warnings and should've just been sanctioned/suspended on the spot if not outright expelled. Yet they get away with just that, a couple of punches for Simon and warnings.

So an old villain steps in to prop up this financially and intellectually crippled group on the verge of falling apart, talk about stretching this out. The comeuppance baiting is growing old since the trickling of consequences doesn't actually affect them much if at all.

 

[noname120]

These scumbags got hit pretty hard this chapter but it closed with them gaining more so than they lost. They ranked up overall lol

 

[kamentierr]

i think you guys expected too much from this manga. it should be pretty obvious from the start that this is one of those trashy power fantasy/wish fulfilment manga.

 

[BigPoppaEffy]

Ah, was wondering if/when the stalker kid was gonna show up again