@phil777 I feel like that absolutely still works for some people, if not you or the MC from the sound of his lines here. That might even be the charm to someone else though? I dunno. I'd rather not pretend to know how I'd feel in those shoes since I've personally never seen a nude model in person for sketching classes or such. My inclination is to agree that it wouldn't really be that erotic, but I've made too many arguments to people before that you never really know with things until you're actually there in the trenches as it were. Might as well take my own words to heart, y'know?