I'm Not The Main Character! - Vol. 5 Ch. 25

[thegoatrider]

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[BuyVelomobiles]

Bro you

Man youre ignorance is shining brighter than the rising sun. Japan the country is NOT all japanese people. Dont be a dumbass and twist my words lmao. Youre just an Otaku that doesnt know better from what I can see

"I'm not racist. I just said that the guy that said the [insert racial group here] were [insert disparaging remarks on the basis of race here] wasn't being racist then he said [insert disparaging remarks on the basis of race here] because [look at how they run their country!]. Look, all I'm saying is that if we played Racist Mad Gabs, and I decided to replace "Japanese" with "Jew", or "Black", I'm probably going to get banned off most places for some TOS violation.

I don't like it any more than you do, but that's just the world we live in these days.

Yall are funny as hell, if I was being racist Id target people not the country. Study some more english before deciding your argument. Targeting the country is more so the government and legislation, a majority of the Japanese youth dont even vote meaning its mainly conservative elders deciding shit. How can I be racist If Im not saying racist things. Thats like saying that just because a country has corrupt legislation or a bad government, Im being racist against the entire race of people? Think before you speak.

So who were you talking about when you said "Most are pretty anti-gay"? Really sounded like you were talking about the Japanese there. Because there's only one Japan, so it's not like there's a population of "Japans", and then most of those "Japans" are anti-gay.

 

[thegoatrider]

"I'm not racist. I just said that the guy that said the [insert racial group here] were [insert disparaging remarks on the basis of race here] wasn't being racist then he said [insert disparaging remarks on the basis of race here] because [look at how they run their country!]. Look, all I'm saying is that if we played Racist Mad Gabs, and I decided to replace "Japanese" with "Jew", or "Black", I'm probably going to get banned off most places for some TOS violation.

I don't like it any more than you do, but that's just the world we live in these days.

So who were you talking about when you said "Most are pretty anti-gay"? Really sounded like you were talking about the Japanese there. Because there's only one Japan, so it's not like there's a population of "Japans", and then most of those "Japans" are anti-gay.

Most of the countries in Asia you fool. Im Chinese and I can clearly and openly say China is not pro-gay while not being racist. Your acting foolish by thinking that me talking about countries is the same as me talking about people. Learn some more english before acting so dumb. China is not chinese people. Same as Isreal is not all jews. Arguing with you is like trying to clean shit off my shoes by yelling at it so im stopping at this point if you still can't get what I'm saying. If you still can't get it you're probably a homophobe yourself. Your interest isn't in the discussion, rather it's in attacking people that support gays.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

Most of the countries in Asia you fool. Im Chinese and I can clearly and openly say China is not pro-gay while not being racist. Your acting foolish by thinking that me talking about countries is the same as me talking about people. Learn some more english before acting so dumb. China is not chinese people. Same as Isreal is not all jews. Arguing with you is like trying to clean shit off my shoes by yelling at it so im stopping at this point if you still can't get what I'm saying. If you still can't get it you're probably a homophobe yourself. Your interest isn't in the discussion, rather it's in attacking people that support gays.

This is what we call a "Stream of consciousness".

 

[Xioverze]

Yall are funny as hell, if I was being racist Id target people not the country. Study some more english before deciding your argument. Targeting the country is more so the government and legislation, a majority of the Japanese youth dont even vote meaning its mainly conservative elders deciding shit. How can I be racist If Im not saying racist things. Thats like saying that just because a country has corrupt legislation or a bad government, Im being racist against the entire race of people? Think before you speak.

you're probably Hispanic stfu

 

[SeryjVolk]

Cross-dressing is tricking people, though...

Disguising as the opposite sex without a person's knowledge is morally neutral unless you're in a situation with that person where they have to make a decision for which knowing your sex objectively matters. And even then it's only a trick if you maliciously exploit that misconception for personal gain.

Akin to how no one is giving grief to below average income men just for wearing nice business suits, even though surrounding people might incorrectly assume that they are far more successful than they are. Similarly if we take women and make-up as an example. It only becomes a trick if they aim to deceive and exploit that misconception.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

Disguising as the opposite sex without a person's knowledge is morally neutral unless you're in a situation with that person where they have to make a decision for which knowing your sex objectively matters. And even then it's only a trick if you maliciously exploit that misconception for personal gain.

I don't know why this came out as a response to what I said. Cross-dressing is, in fact, tricking people. The guy I was talking to directly separated the cross-dressing from the "tricking people" part of what happened, as though he robbed people, and entirely by coincidence, he also dressed like a woman- with the fact having had no effect on anyone at any point in time.

Akin to how no one is giving grief to below average income men just for wearing nice business suits, even though surrounding people might incorrectly assume that they are far more successful than they are.

We give broke dudes shit all the time for trying to look more successful than they are. What circles are you in?

Similarly if we take women and make-up as an example. It only becomes a trick if they aim to deceive and exploit that misconception.

Literally the entire point is to trick men into believing they're more attractive. We just accept it because women are hard-wired to do this sort of thing.

 

[gr2222]

If you'd given any attempt to look at interviews with gay people in japan youd know better lol. The reason why theres a lot of bl and gl is because women like bl and men like gl. Not to mention there are a lot of people who are still in the closet because they masquerade that they just like the genre instead of just coming out. Its not racist, its idiotic to immediately go to that topic over someone mentioning that they arent pro lgbtq 😅

since when have interviews been accurate? the only thing it proves is that they found some people that had problems about it, because some people have problems about being gay doesn't mean that most do. Besides japan has more members in the lgbtq community then most european countries, does that mean nothing?

The reason why theres a lot of bl and gl is because women like bl and men like gl

what? no the reason why there are a lot of bl-gl is that there are a lot people that read/watch them, the thing that you said about (women like bl and men like gl) is simply not true, i mean sure there are a lot that do but let me guess, you read somewhere from a news site about that? well the problem is that the sites that do that never put sources or the research papers up for people to see because its just bs. the only accurate data in this category is data that was given by porn sites, in all cases that i could find (in japanese sites) was that in gay and lesbian porn the registered accounts watching them was really close to 50% male and 50% female with only a 2%-8% deference.

 

[SeryjVolk]

I don't know why this came out as a response to what I said. Cross-dressing is, in fact, tricking people. The guy I was talking to directly separated the cross-dressing from the "tricking people" part of what happened, as though he robbed people, and entirely by coincidence, he also dressed like a woman- with the fact having had no effect on anyone at any point in time.

We give broke dudes shit all the time for trying to look more successful than they are. What circles are you in?

Literally the entire point is to trick men into believing they're more attractive. We just accept it because women are hard-wired to do this sort of thing.

1) It's a trick exactly in that context. Not by itself. You were the one who separated it first, and it's not a trick separately.
2) Who's "we"? Assholes? I never ridicule anyone for being poor and neither does anyone I know.
3) What's "this sort of thing"? Attract the opposite sex? Yes, all creatures that need a pair to procreate are hardwired to do that. And it's not a "trick": make-up is evident. It would be a trick if someone wore super-small amounts of make-up stealthily and insisted that they don't use any if a romantic prospect asked them about it.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

1) It's a trick exactly in that context. Not by itself. You were the one who separated it first, and it's not a trick separately.

It's a trick in every context. The catch is whether you'd reasonably fall for it or not.

2) Who's "we"? Assholes? I never ridicule anyone for being poor and neither does anyone I know.

Humans generally. In fairness, it's mostly women, and their idea of "Broke" includes anyone making under seven figures.

3) What's "this sort of thing"? Attract the opposite sex? Yes, all creatures that need a pair to procreate are hardwired to do that. And it's not a "trick": make-up is evident. It would be a trick if someone wore super-small amounts of make-up stealthily and insisted that they don't use any if a romantic prospect asked them about it.

You seem to think I mean "subtle trick" when I say "trick", when the point is that there's an attempt to obfuscate the truth. Lips aren't beet red? Makeup fixes that. "Oh, but you can tell she's wearing makeup!" Yeah, and you can't tell what she actually looks like.

 

[SeryjVolk]

It's a trick in every context. The catch is whether you'd reasonably fall for it or not.

Humans generally. In fairness, it's mostly women, and their idea of "Broke" includes anyone making under seven figures.

You seem to think I mean "subtle trick" when I say "trick", when the point is that there's an attempt to obfuscate the truth. Lips aren't beet red? Makeup fixes that. "Oh, but you can tell she's wearing makeup!" Yeah, and you can't tell what she actually looks like.

1) You refuted yourself in the second sentence. If a reasonable chance to fool someone is a condition for a trick, then it is NOT a trick in every context. Semantics aside, you seem to consider almost everything a trick. But do you consider all tricks malicious?

2) Go out and meet some people. "Manosphere" vloggers do not have your best interest in mind: they pick out the most outrageous content to keep you coming back, they do not care if they skew your perception of women in the process. Insane women on tik-tok do not represent the average female.

3) To repeat my question: do you consider that malicious? Because I don't think it's productive to argue about what you consider a trick anymore. You might as well say everyone tricks everyone because people wear clothes to hide their bodies and don't disclose their finances to everyone who asks.

Because I wasn't trying to argue about the semantics of whether cross-dressing can be described with the word "trick" or not. I was arguing that it is not a "trick" in the word's "malicious deception" definition, and at most can be an instrument used for such, which can be said about almost everything.

 

[CyanHide]

Why is she mad, just because the trope of all females being mad for no reason is funny?

It's a dude, so even if drunk there's no way MC got in any suggestive positions or situations with him, is just going out drinking why she's mad?

And then there's MC, not only going down from a single sip (he didn't even have time to swallow!) is just not possible, magic?
But also, he got a fucking nightmare from being crossdresser baited in a fighting type RPG game with seemingly no or little focus on romance in the first place... It's not like he was playing a dating sim and the FL turned into a guy, it's a fighting RPG!

...first of all, how do you expect her to know it was an accursed trap? Second of all, the implication of (what seems to be a woman) dragging your drunken ass home is pretty damning to some people.

 

[CyanHide]

I was arguing that it is not a "trick" in the word's "malicious deception" definition, and at most can be an instrument used for such, which can be said about almost everything.

Yeah sure, it's all fair game even when someone gets hurt

Bloody dumbass

 

[SeryjVolk]

Yeah sure, it's all fair game even when someone gets hurt

Bloody dumbass

No, you. Because that's literally the opposite of what I said. It's all fair game when no one is intending to hurt anyone.

 

[CyanHide]

It's all fair game when no one is intending to hurt anyone.

They do everything in their power to blend in and they know there are poor bastards who can and will fall for it, you cannot tell me that isn't malicious negligence at the very least

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

They do everything in their power to blend in and they know there are poor bastards who can and will fall for it, you cannot tell me that isn't malicious negligence at the very least

I know it's been a while, but this all started because a guy dressed as a woman to trick people and rob them. The guy you're talking to is pretending that the cross dressing is completely incidental in all of this.

 

[CyanHide]

I know it's been a while, but this all started because a guy dressed as a woman to trick people and rob them. The guy you're talking to is pretending that the cross dressing is completely incidental in all of this.

Both of them can fuck a cactus

 

[SeryjVolk]

They do everything in their power to blend in and they know there are poor bastards who can and will fall for it, you cannot tell me that isn't malicious negligence at the very least

Who's "they"? How do you know what they think? Also if you're going to bother to butt in, read the argument. It's only malicious when there's malicious intent. And it can only be called negligence when there's damage stemming from it. Costumes and acting ability aren't inherently good or evil just because they can be used for both.

I know it's been a while, but this all started because a guy dressed as a woman to trick people and rob them. The guy you're talking to is pretending that the cross dressing is completely incidental in all of this.

Why are you lying now? Or did you already forget our argument? It was about you insisting that crossdressing is deceitful in any context. Which is nonsense. While my position is that while it can be used by an evil person for evil, it's neutral by itself.

 

[banjomarx]

GAME OVER