Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 41 - Everything, Falling Apart

[Rarez]

Ignore this. Will delete.


Really. Is there no delete button wtf.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Okay while I think Yuu is deserving of a second chance if he takes proper responsibility- Yami isn't Jesus fuck what a miserable piece of shit

 

[mug3n]

Are seriously telling that If Yami never kissed Yuu the situation would have been the same?

You are stuck into the expected shitty behaviour of a shitty person when I'm talking about is he ignoring Hikari and go along with his plans. What I'm saying that's bad enough in itself.

And no, things would have been different. They would have to talk and Aya would being brought up if he asked Hikari.

 

[LordTartaros]

Eww no girl, not everyone act like a slut like you

 

[GennArc]

That's what I've been saying for like months now, that Hikari gives Aya the things Aya wanted from Yuu and that's why Aya is in a much healthier place emotionally after meeting Hikari then she ever was w/ Yuu.

Now that I think about, Yuu also had a reaction Yami wanted from Hikari.
With Yuu she wanted him to see through her lies and recognize the feelings she still had.
With Hikari she wanted her to just accept the lie (not believe it, as @Catbowl pointed out) and go along with Yuu's confession, forgiving him for the little incident.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

I also think Hikari will end up forgiving Yami in the end, but I honestly have no idea how Maruto’s going to pull it off… it just feels impossible to me. How do you write something like that without it coming off as contrived or just plain bad writing?

Yeah I can easily see how they can write it with her forgiving Yuu but Yami? No this was too fucking much

 

[middle-the-nerd]

(boy has no personality lmao)

Tbf I think this is more a syndrome of not seeing really anything from his POV

Unrelated but, I noticed you changed your pfp. Cute girl. It was kind of weird seeing your comment and thinking "something's wrong" lmao

Thought the same thing felt fucking cursed

 

[Rarez]

You are stuck into the expected shitty behaviour of a shitty person

Kinda have to. You're not treating Yami as a actor but like "nature".

"There nothing to be done she is just a shitty person" that's it.

When the fact that it cannot be any clearer who made the situation like this. And blaming the other actors for not perfectly responding.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

I don't expect Maruto to go this route, but the two I can think of off the top of my head go something like:

The nihilist toxic nobody learned anything path:
He's back to a similar circumstance as the first go around: He took a chance to get with Hikari with the confession and it didn't work out well, Aya is throwing herself at him, and Hikari seems to be tacitly condoning, if not encouraging, it. So Yuu again thinks it's hopeless with Hikari and takes the kinda cowardly route of trying again with Aya 'cause after all he thinks he was starting to fall for Aya and with Hikari's help they seem to be on the path to clearing the air about their communication issues that crashed their first ship. I also think this is the sorta thing that's doomed to fail b/c Hikari can't keep them from falling back into their bad patterns.

The uno reverse path:
He's confusing loving Hikari as a friend with being in love with her, because he's been in love w/ Hikari for so long that he wouldn't recognize that he fell out of love. He confessed to Hikari after meeting w/ Aya to lock in the safe stable comfortable relationship instead of risking the one he now really wants.

Damn I think I'd hate both of these

 

[middle-the-nerd]

If we get a Yuu x Hikari ending I'll be so happy because it means he DOESN'T end up with Yami

Yuu and Hikari becoming a thing is just a bonus at this point

 

[Rarez]

In a case where it's supposed to be someone you genuinely care about that you know is going through rough stuff and the 'clear message' is just getting blocked out of the blue? you Absolutely do more than just sit on your ass and say you tried. (I could be misremembering this and that's on me if I am but didn't Yami at one point imply that she wouldn't mind dying or something on that level early on when she was with him?)

Yuu's bad for not acting like her psychiatrist/therapist?

Should he have called the cops when she blocked him?

The entire conversation is him having an unexpected conversation with her where he's clearly just going through the motions of what he thinks he should say so he can get to Hikari.

So the guy that got ghosted and blocked is at fault for not being her therapist and saying the perfect things to the girl that ghosted and blocked him.

 

[mgRdr]

And nobody gives a shit about my homeboy yuu getting fucked left, right and center.

Oh poor Yuu

 

[middle-the-nerd]

No it doesn't matter what he believes Hikari thinks whatsoever, throughout the dance she was silent and distant, totally the contrary of what she usually is. If he just asked her what happened to her, he should have avoided this situation turning so bad.

Is not that he is a pushover and dense, which yeah but that's not that bad in itself, but it looks he just thinks of himself, he went straight to confess when all the alarms were going off. That's beyond being dense, I can't believe anyone in that situation would not realize what's going on.

People give shit to Yuu for not being on point like a shoujo crush of the fmc and I think a lot of people were very hard on him for no real reason because until that point it only hurted himself, but this is not one of those situations. He fucked up and hurted everyone for selfish reasons.

While I think you're almost completely right I disagree slightly that it was him being purely just selfish- yeah, that's 100% a part of it but I think very much a part of it is he's just a dumb teenager who assumed he was overthinking shit

He picked up that she was acting off and just...did it anyways probably because he thought he was overthinking it which lines up with his character imo didn't trust his own instincts if he had just trusted what he was thinking it could have gone completely differently

 

[mug3n]

When the fact that it cannot be any clearer who made the situation like this. And blaming the other actors for not perfectly responding.

You are so stuck into send Yami the gallows when we are way beyond that at this point in the conversation. I have told 3 times what the problem with Yuu is and is and I made clear I don't think his errors are as bad as Yami's but he still fucked up handling his part with Hikari.

I don't know what else to tell you, but you keep going into black and white arguments to exculpate Yuu, and I'm sorry, I'm not for bullshit like that.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Yeah, I hope Maruto doesn’t go down these routes.

I'm practically BEGGING him not too...wait am I actually kinda invested at this point??? Fuck

 

[zeroto7dan]

"Bind him with your body"

Honestly with everything that Yami been through and seen with her own family, you'd think that would be one of the last kind of advice that she would give.

habit die hard.

 

[Kalbiaczek]

Fucking whore and now she will try to push out FMC to do this thing because she knows he is still in love with her gucking bunch of fuckers I hate both the childhood friend and that black haired bitch

 

[mug3n]

While I think you're almost completely right I disagree slightly that it was him being purely just selfish- yeah, that's 100% a part of it but I think very much a part of it is he's just a dumb teenager who assumed he was overthinking shit

He picked up that she was acting off and just...did it anyways probably because he thought he was overthinking it which lines up with his character imo didn't trust his own instincts if he had just trusted what he was thinking it could have gone completely differently

Yeah, I know. It's hard to convey everything and remember what we said weeks ago. Yeah, I understand him being tipping his toes around Hikari given his love story and not wanting to be hurt, being oblivious to signals and that. I understand it may look like I hate him but is not the case, I defended him when people expected top notch gentleman behaviour from him when he is a dumb teen. That's why I'm more stuck with what I think is his real issue that caused problems with everyone instead of the ones that only hurted him.

 

[Kalbiaczek]

"Bind him with your body"

Honestly with everything that Yami been through and seen with her own family, you'd think that would be one of the last kind of advice that she would give.

What do you expect of a whore that slept with a guy she barely even knew by the time they did it

 

[middle-the-nerd]

You are so stuck into send Yami the gallows when we are way beyond that at this point in the conversation. I have told 3 times what the problem with Yuu is and is and I made clear I don't think his errors are as bad as Yami's but he still fucked up handling his part with Hikari.

I don't know what else to tell you, but you keep going into black and white arguments to exculpate Yuu, and I'm sorry, I'm not for bullshit like that.

Yep acting like it's black and white is just...not accurate because he 100% fucked up and made mistakes but it's too clear cut to say he's a shitty person from that because the reality is he's just a guy with problems who who fucked up

Does that make the things he did okay? No of course not but it doesn’t mean they're unsympathetic or that it's impossible to understand his actions