Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 44 - An Ordinary Day with Someone at Rock Bottom

[HellJester]

The joke here is she didn´t want make that. She encountered Yami just for bad luck in her running away. In any moment of her PoV in chapter 38 she thinks in find Yami or confront her. Their encounter in chapter 41 was securely 100% accidental -again-
And her attitude in this chapter 44 avoiding and ghosting Yuu proves it. Anyway, if she really wanted to look Yami, she could say to Yuu the truth and talk openly with him. He invited clearly to her to do it during the confession, again, is him trying to confirm if she saw the kiss or not.
IMO, again, her mistake was carry Yuu for the dance and later the gym. Those chapters are a good example about how both Yuu and Hikari, like Haruki and Setsuna before, when they take the lead, the most probably result is a screwing.
They are better following than leading. This is the reason why both fell in the hands of Kazusa Touma, I mean, Ayami Sudo.
But IMO, Yuu is still more brave than Hikari, and not just for confess in this point, but because Hikari had several of opportunities between Carnival and Cultural Festival and wasted all them, even with the counsels and the active help of the ex-girlfriend of Yuu.

Hold on a second - I don't think it was an accident that Hikari ended up running into Yami.

In the translation of Chapter 41 we get this from Yami:

Episode 41: Everything Falls Apart

Late September, Saturday.
A night ruled by rain and darkness,
a night where it feels like everyone is crying.

Haru: “Aya, what should we do?! Hikari’s gone!”
Haru: “She suddenly snapped, dumped her boyfriend, and stormed out of the gym!”
Yami: “It’s okay, I found her. I’ll take her home. You two go on ahead.”

Yami: “I already let Haru know.”
Hikari: “……”

It was just before 8 p.m., after the after-party had ended.

A frantic LINE message from Haru arrived—not in the usual group chat, maybe because she was being considerate, but sent directly to me. I left the classroom to help search for Hikari, about five minutes ago.

And the moment I opened the door,
and saw her standing there, soaking wet—
that’s when I truly realized the weight of what I had done.

So the episode starts out with Hikari and Yami already in the classroom and then Yami has a minor flashback to 5 minutes ago when she got a personal LINE message from Haru and proceeded to go search for Hikari. However, right as she opens the door, Hikari is standing there.

I agree with you in that there's no mention anywhere in Chapter 38 that Hikari was leaving Yuu to find Yami. However, Chapter 41 makes it clear that Yami was still in the classroom and was going to leave it to find Hikari but Hikari was already standing by the door when Yami opened it. Seems fairly clear cut that Hikari purposefully went to the classroom.

I would argue that if Hikari's intention was to find Yami she'd start looking for her in the last place she saw her which was the classroom. Conversely, if Hikari didn't want to run into Yami it makes no sense that she would go to the last place she saw her. If Hikari truly wanted to be alone she'd most likely just go home. I don't think it's a coincidence that they encountered each other.

I agree with you that Hikari probably should have helped Yuu back up and then talked to him about what she saw but I can also understand her wanting to talk to her best friend first before dealing with Yuu. As far as her ghosting Yuu in Chapter 44 - Hikari has had a lot to process - all three of them have. Her confrontation with Yami ended up with a lot of hurtful things being said and it's understandable that Hikari, who dragged her feet all throughout this manga, would be dragging her feet yet again. You could argue that all three characters are showing cowardice in their own ways - Yami has quit school again and has isolated herself, Yuu is keeping his distance from both Yami and Hikari & Hikari is avoiding Yuu and her two friends Haru and Yuki.

I don't want to get into misandry and misogyny as both terms are used in these threads too often. I would posit that all three main characters have their instances of both bravery and cowardice. I don't think a character showing either is because of their gender regardless of whatever themes Maruto might sprinkle in his works. I prefer to just see the characters.

Lastly, it's not a contest as to who is more brave or who is more cowardly or who is most right or wrong. All three characters have experienced all of the above and all are responsible for what's going on.

 

[peortega1]

Hold on a second - I don't think it was an accident that Hikari ended up running into Yami.

Is true Hikari purposefully went to the classroom, but seeing how she needed almost 10 minutes to dare to say a few words to Ayami, IMO she didn´t expect Yami would still in the crime place, for let´s say. Yami definitely had at least enough time to left the room and going to home and prefered stay in the classroom even knowing the magnitude of her actions. IMO Hikari only wanted a lonely place to cry, and when Yami opened the door, she encountered Hikari. So, is a mere coincidence, again, in an already very bad day.

I agree with you that Hikari probably should have helped Yuu back up and then talked to him about what she saw but I can also understand her wanting to talk to her best friend first before dealing with Yuu

That doesn´t change she lost the right to priorize Yami over Yuu after she thrown him. Definitely there were better ways to, as you said, helped him back up and say something more to relief the situation before go out running away to look Yami.

You could argue that all three characters are showing cowardice in their own ways - Yami has quit school again and has isolated herself, Yuu is keeping his distance from both Yami and Hikari & Hikari is avoiding Yuu and her two friends Haru and Yuki.

I insist again Yuu is the only one who are not showing cowardice in this point. If Hikari ignored his LINE messages and she is actively avoiding him, makes sense he doesn´t want go to her house and give space and time to her to process and think.

I don't think a character showing either is because of their gender regardless of whatever themes Maruto might sprinkle in his works. I prefer to just see the characters.

The themes are still important because, again, you cannot understand Yami-Yuu relationship without Role Reversal and Female Domination. As already happened with Haruki and Kazusa in White Album 2.
This is the reason why Maruto focused those chapters in teenager sex, as a narrative way to show how it was their relationship in general terms, those sex scenes was not unneccessary neither for fanservice. Scenes like Ayami literally grabbing Yuu by the dick in the train station, are a way to show Yami is the boyfriend of the relationship and is her who takes the decisions here, this is the reason why she ignores the warnings of Yuu about the external locus reasons who will end destroying their relationship.
This is important because explains why Yuu is taking the lead right now but in his usual passive way, like he did with Yami in chapter 28.
Yuu is a submissive boy and he wouldn´t go against her dommy girlfriend desires. This is the reason why he shows more independence and self-love from Yami only when she says in chapter 40 "I got bored from you, Yuu", this break the trusting bond/chain between them and ends being a way of Yami to pressure Yuu to go to look Hikari.
And this never will change. This is the reason why Hikari and Yuu never will be compatible without the intervention of a third one. Like Ayami.

Lastly, it's not a contest as to who is more brave or who is more cowardly or who is most right or wrong. All three characters have experienced all of the above and all are responsible for what's going on.

I´m agree, but again, I consider the misandry and misogyny contamined all this discussion in first place. And until certain point, this is the goal of Maruto with all his male MC and the role reversal themes always developed by him.

 

[Bdl60]

The key of Romance genre noweday now,"Misinformation".

 

[peortega1]

A comment more about the role reversal/female domination themes:

Even in his passive way, and compared with Hikari who is even more submissive and docile than Yuu with the real Yami desires and always pardon her, Yuu makes more effort to being the conscience´s voice of Yami and maintain her self-destructive trends under control. Until now, he has been the better one handling her.
This is important because implies Ayami was the bad guide and leader, not him. She dumped Yuu in the truth moment, she didn´t deserve Yuu would insist in try to reach out her hand when Yami is who dumped his hand in first place.
Yuu does well his part in the relationship and pressures correctly to his dommy girlfriend. And this happened because Yami sincerely believed everything was finally fixed in her house in chapter 28. Her sincerity is the reason why Yuu believes her and leaves to pressure her about her family, is Yami who commits the mistake of underestimate the real outer dangers against their relationship. And her mistake carried Yuu with herself to the abyss.
I will say, anyway, Yuu didn´t fought until the end for Yami, and, like Haruki before him, he surrended in a moment when he could still fighthing. Is precisely the thing Kazusa says to Haruki in White Album 2 chapter 3: "you surrender so easily, Kitahara", and in both cases, both Haruki and Yuu have to improve in this field, but, again, without lefting to be submissive men, but even for being the submissive boyfriend/husband of Kazusa, Haruki had to fight until the end, this is the point of Kazusa True End in Coda.
And both didn´t fight enough because both are cowards. This is my point, Yuu will be always submissive but he is giving steps to be less coward and more valliant, we could say Yami taught him, after all, to believe in himself.

 

[animan095]

Yeah Ta-kun come inside her.... room

 

[John_Smith10]

Because she leaned in first to the kiss, basically inviting him (and later agreding him when she decided to be selfish), is precisely because she is so close she could thrown him to the floor. Is a very obvious physical aggresion.
Just change the genders, but with exactly the same actions. Hikari attacked Yuu, there are not other possible words for that moment.
Even moment when all we know she only needed say "Stop it!" or just far away if she wanted stop the kiss. And yes, "she used too much force" is other proof of physical
aggresion

I'm not saying she wasn't physically aggressive though? I said she didn't punch him. Not all acts of physical aggression involves punches. I'm not denying it was physically aggressive so I'm not sure why you're bringing this up

 

[peortega1]

I'm not saying she wasn't physically aggressive though? I said she didn't punch him. Not all acts of physical aggression involves punches. I'm not denying it was physically aggressive so I'm not sure why you're bringing this up

True, you are right. Sorry for my mistake.
And as I said, IMO is in part the guiltyness for this aggresion the reason why Hikari avoids Yuu. Because she realized she screwed up to attack physically him, in both chapters 38 and 44. This is the reason why she changes so quickly instead selfish anger to repenting tears

 

[GOAT_of.the_Uchiha]

fucking LEAVE HIM GIRL GOD AYUM

Sire! May I have the utmost honor of gaining the ethereal knowledge of the sauce of your pfp?

 

[dbzclamp]

Just come, Ta-kun…!

I thought that was how this whole problem started

 

[dontprepublish]

It’s been a minute since I read this series and delved into the forums to see what general reactions are, glad to see some people are picking up on hikari’s faults instead of the overwhelming “hikari can do no wrong!” Responses flooding the discourse, sucks there’s only been like 5 chapters since the fallout so not much to catch up to.

Anyways, not much to say on hikari I haven’t said before, she’s still being a bratty dork about the whole situation with her head still wrapped around her delusions of romcom grandeur (which I’m realizing is the way I should’ve described her behavior in previous posts instead of attempting to break it down bit by bit), she insists that he jump head first into a situation where he could hurt her again as if he’s supposed read her mind and act like she didn’t leave him on read when he reached out, just like yami she’s begging for others to act when the only person’s actions she knows she can control are her own, if she had half the sense most people rooting for her insist she does she’d actually talk to her parents and they could talk to Yuu’s since the burden of reconciliation is clearly to much for her or yuu to handle, at least in a healthy way, which is effecting not only them but their families.

Although to be honest, I’m no longer of the mindset that the hikari’s shortcoming are a glaring issue with the narrative that everyone, author included, is choosing to ignore to make her look good and yuu & yami look bad (which is the case by most metrics, don’t get me wrong hikari is still leagues better than those two clowns by comparison but that’s not really saying much) but is instead the fatal flaw that’s blown the hole in this sinking ship, I have zero faith in hikari or yami attempting to get through their hangups and attempt to stitch things up because they’ve already tried in their own ways and failed spectacularly, yami because she’s a mess in general and hikari for reasons I’ve already discussed.

So we’re left with yuu, and barring a new character introduced who Hopefully isn’t a woman he’ll spontaneously fall in love with but instead a mentor or “male best friend” who can give him genuinely helpful advice I can’t see him dragging himself nor the other two out of this hole, at least not before yami finally finds the tragedy she’s been looking for and permanently rends yuu and hikari apart, perhaps even cascading into yuu following suit. I don’t know how this author operates personally but seeing people saying that what’s happened so far is “expected of him” and that he’s known for writing dramatic angst filled tales with unrequited love I can’t write off my prediction as completely incapable of happening, which would still fit the premise of being “a little late” to fall in love with a childhood friend.

Do I want this to happen? No not really, silly fool that she is hikari doesn’t deserve that and I rather not yami’s entire character just end with “traumatized girl gets herself killed” and I’d rather see yuu just distance himself entirely from these people instead of getting so hung up he winds up kicking the stool from under him, so I hope things end peacefully and maybe they can all just go back to being friends since romance clearly isn’t their forte.