Isekai Death Game ni Tensou sarete Tsurai - Vol. 1 Ch. 6 - Temporary Employee

[Rice]

Ah, the workforce. What a fantastic place to be.

 

[aFFi]

Man, apparently this kind of practice is fairly normal in Japan. Unpaid overtime is actually a big problem.

And then there's the crazy pressure on students to "be the best", stupid pressure on the elderly to "not become dependent".

And after all that, the country dares to ask "Why aren't young people making more babies... and why is our suicide rate so high (1.6 per 10000 in 2017)"

 

[Lock]

This chapter triggered me.

 

[monkey123]

Haha Mei with sleep deprived eyes looks like Himi. ?

 

[Exousiazo]

Someone put a trigger warning at the start of the chapter. My blood was boiling when I read it.

 

[Med1um]

So what if he don't trust machine with calculation? Which is retarded in the first place, human have much more chance to mistake than machine.
Anyway, if it's her work, it's not his business how she accomplished it, only end result matters.
P.S. Also, the usual - "Japan's work law is absurd"

 

[ZdrytchX]

@aFFi

wait, isn't that suicide rate kinda number kinda low? From what I've seen, I can estimate the suicide rate to be 1 per ~200 members of society. And that's of the people around my age (~25 +/- 5 yrs old) that I know in australia.

 

[aFFi]

@ZdrytchX
From what I could find, there was 2,866 suicide in Australia for the whole 2016. Source
There are more than 24 million people living there, if one per 200 dies per year, that's a supposed 120,000 people dying of suicide each year.
Even if we take the population of active member of society between the age of 20 and 30 years old, that's still around 15% of the total population Source
That would be 3.6 million at a rate of 1/200, that's still 18,000... that's still 6 times the actual number of the total for the whole country...

So I think your numbers are somewhat wrong.

EDIT: added sources

 

[ZdrytchX]

Well, I did say

people around my age (~25 +/- 5 yrs old

Maybe it's more of a modern day issue. Not all suicides get reported to statistics bureau.

 

[Liquidxlax]

I can understand doing some of the bosses work on the day he helped and taught you shit, but jeez what kind of bitch is she. Are offices like that with bosses shoving their work onto their subordinates?

 

[Seregosa]

...While there are a lot of grammar errors, minor stuff is fine, but at LEAST get basic grammar correctly. Look at page 4, "and I could really care less". Only someone truly inept would actually use "I could care less" instead of the correct version "I couldn't care less". That's the basics of the basics. That means you don't even grasp negative or positive statements properly. Just think about it for a second, "I could care less" means that you could actually care less, which makes the statement useless except for very rare situations where other words would be chosen to describe that you're capable of caring less about something, why would you even mention that normally? Saying "I could NOT care less" obviously means that you don't care at all, which is what everyone uses this line to show. You care so little that it's impossible to care less about it.

I tend to ignore most of the minor grammar errors because it's no big deal, but getting something so elementary wrong when it couldn't be more obvious which is the correct version just grinds my gears.

 

[Seregosa]

This type of stuff is why I would never want to work in Japan, ever. There was a time when I was young and ignorant and wanted to work there, but then I realized that my country is a place where I can chill and work a set amount of hours each day with no risk of any power abuse happening and can feel safe with all the laws binding down companies and working regulations. Where I can be guaranteed a set amount of free hours each day to do whatever I want and still earn pretty much the same amount as everyone else.

Spare me from even thinking of working in a country where the higher-ups can actually wantonly decide what you should do, where and what you should work with and about whether or not you work overtime. I'd probably die from overwork over there, albeit obviously not every company is like that, it's mainly the more old-school ones, talk about shitty work rules and regulations. If you can't do it on time, you either delay the deadline so that you can make it or properly pay people wage+bonus for overtime or uncomfortable hours so that it's attractive enough for people to work of their own volition, but even then there are laws stating that you can't work over a set amount of time even if you want to, that's how to do it properly to maintain the physical and mental health of the population and make sure that the workforce is EFFICIENT and long-lasting rather than inefficient and dying like flies. The moron "senior" in this chapter would've been subject to strict legal actions as soon as he tried to do what he did here if it was in my country. He would be instantly reported and get sued or he would have to pay "damages". If things were really bad and he had been doing this for a long time, he might even get jail time for abusing people. At the very least he'd be fired as soon as he abused his power like this, no one wants idiots like him in a proper company as he'll just harm everyone with his behavior.

I'd much rather have it like it is in my country. About 8 hours of work-time each day(8-16), bonus pay when working overtime(on top of the regular hourly wage), never any forced work. Just look at Japan, we can even easily see the results of their unhealthy and ridiculous working environment from all the entertainment circulating the market. So many novels, manga and anime tailored for work-abused adults who just wants to get away from reality. So many isekai novels start out with a worthless guy working like a slave in some "black company" and then dying in some way(either getting run over, killed or just suicide) and ending up in another world. Otherwise it can be about neets who've given up on society because it's too harsh for them. It's rare that the adventure itself is anything else than pure wish-fulfillment. Isekaiers running their ideal shop life where they just go day to day while having fun in a store. People who gets insane cheats and goes on "adventures" which is pretty much just exploring the world, getting a harem... Well, along with finding japanese food and onsens, because that seems to be the only real attachment they have to their everyday life in Japan.

Rarely is there anything like a proper story and/or nice adventure WITH A PROPER GOAL(something other than just exploring for the heck of it, I mean a REAL goal, like becoming the strongest, becoming a god or anything else like that) after these guys pop over into another world. Really, it's quite sad, they just tend to have normal wishes that should be possible to fulfill in our world as well. Eating good food, not having to be bossed over, living the life and not having to work that hard.

I love Japan as a country, in most cases they have a wonderful culture with awesome food, nice entertainment and many scenaries to see. It's certainly a country I like visiting and experiencing, I also like partaking of their cooking, their rice and many things like that, but their work culture is retarded and extremely outdated and inefficient. Visiting is awesome, working there is hell(depending on where of course, these cases are pretty much the worst ones). I don't think I would even be ABLE to work there in such a company, I would probably be fired after a short while because with the upbringing, morals and life views I've grown up with, I wouldn't take shit from the bosses, I wouldn't bow my head to my fellow humans for no good reason, I wouldn't accept having no say in things regarding myself, I wouldn't accept obligatory overtime even if paid and I wouldn't participate in things like drinking parties for "teambuilding" or whatever which seems to be pretty much obligatory, I'm a non-drinker after all and I would never accept being pressured into drinking. I wonder how that'd sound to a japanese person who grew up in a place where the things mentioned are normal? Would I sound selfish? Childish? Unreasonable? Well, I can only give them the middle finger as I tell them to shove it and I'll keep on actually enjoying my simple and fulfilling life with the knowledge that while humans are never truly equal in value, I stand below no man or woman and won't accept being treated as inferior in any way. Be it a senior or boss, they're all just humans. Their value comes from how hard they've worked and/or their luck, but no matter what happens, no one has the right to demand anything and even if they're higher-up in the company, they're just fellow humans who happens to have a position with more responsibility and pay, it doesn't give them any right to force me to do anything or tell me to do anything unreasonable, they're bound by the same laws as me and things like seniority or higher positions mattering was never a thing where I live, the only thing they can do is fire me but even that is hard to do because of contracts. That's how it should be in a country that cares about its citizens health, be it physical or mental.

Well, if you read this, thanks for reading a text about pretty much fucking nothing. While I do realize that it's a text wall and out of place, that I wrote too much and should really rein myself in, I still chose to post it because I feel like it's a waste to just delete the comment I wrote after going out of control for 20 minutes. Good work on making it through, sorry for wasting your time, hahaha.

 

[SSS26032002]

That old man needs to be killed quickly. That man is just too damn fast on his job!!
Her powers are growing.

 

[Durantye]

Seregosa

You've clearly never worked a real job in your life. I'm assuming you're referring to Europe in your post, some of the things you're praising aren't as good as you think for a country and some of them aren't true. You can be 'forced' to work overtime, if you're on salary you have to do your assigned work regardless of how many hours it takes you, though usually they are pretty lenient. Also the extreme employee restrictions which prevent being fired easily in order to prevent employers from hanging it over people's heads also aren't perfect as it can result in the opposite. This is why many lucrative businesses refuse to house themselves in the EU, ever notice how almost every large game is made by America? Brain leak is also a factor that has to be taken into consideration, if the US wasn't such a shithole in so many other ways and seemed to be heading towards a political crisis it would easily be draining EU even more than it is, to the point it would be a serious problem. This is one reason traditional politicians are gaining so much ground in many European countries. European employees are pretty well taken care of, but it also makes you an unattractive employee base, the yellow vest movement in France is a perfect example of what happens when you go too far with protecting the employees. France has the easiest life of almost any country as an employee, tons of paid vacation fewer hours for full time employment pay and benefits than almost anywhere else, its easier to move your entire company to another city and tell them to commute than fire some low-ranking employees, etc. This is why the government has had to put so much of the economic burden on these working class people, because otherwise why would the rich employers stay in a country that makes their life hell?

Employers can wantonly decide what you should do, unless something got messed up in translation here your statement makes no sense. Your employer literally chooses what you get to do at work, whether it is your own work or his etc. ESPECIALLY if you're working on an hourly system, you can argue job description till you are blue in the face but 1: It almost certainly covers all the bases, and 2: Unless it is something unfairly dangerous or imposing no judge is really going to side with you unless you can 100% prove abuse and even still you won't get to that point.

You're also missing the point of the Japanese work system, this chapter is a perfect showing of it. It is based on 2 things, willingness and seniority. The idea is that the more loyal you are to your company the better your life becomes over time, this is on purpose to attract 'lifers'. Companies universally want people to feel as though they've worked their way up regardless of true ambition and capability. This means you may break your back working the first 5 year or 10 years or whatever arbitrary point you become the guy allowed to pawn work off on other people, then you become that guy. People are also generally very well taken care of by their companies, finances and ambition are heavily assisted. Unlike the US or EU where ambition is pretty much your own extra job to pursue it is pretty much expected both for the employee to have some level of ambition AND for his company to facilitate it. As far as willingness goes, similarly to the EU it is a pain in the ass to get rid of an employee, so you are unlikely to ever be fired unless you royally fuck up. Just like Mei refused to do her superior's work, she could also have refused to do everything by hand, etc. Hell she could've lazed around quite a bit and never done any overtime. The big problem is that you can do this and get away with it even easier than say US companies, who are very willing to fire you. BUT you ruin any and all chances of significant advancement forever. The reason people break their asses in Japan is purely cultural, you're expected to be at work before your boss and not leave until after he has left, this is just an example of one thing that is a purely cultural issue that pushes people to break their entire bodies and minds through work. But you're not actually required to do that. That isn't to say Japan doesn't need to fix their system, they do, but you're also not quite getting the other side of the picture.

Their work culture is outdated and venturing on cruel, but it is NOT inefficient, it is the complete opposite. This is a level of ignorance that goes really deep, the Japanese system is what has pushed them to the top of the world in production and quality.

You also talk about the drinking parties as if it is any different in the west, the only difference is how often it is accepted. You are not required to attend these things, similar to what I said earlier about it all being voluntary but heavily encouraged. In the west refusing any teambuilding or bonding with your boss is also a really bad idea, refusing party invitations and business trips, etc. No different whatsoever, you wouldn't give your boss the middle finger if you had a job worth mentioning, and therefore a job where you're worth your bosses time outside of work.

Your little rant about being 'below no man' and how they can't 'tell you what to do' screams childishness stemming from a person who has no redeemable qualities that would appear in their work. I'm assuming no University education, either a trade schooler, highschool graduate, or at most a 2 year degree person. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are below many many people, humans aren't equal when it comes to power and jobs.

Good luck in growing up.

 

[Shadourow]

Ahah, what a slave mentality that you have Durantye !

I totally agree with Seregosa.
He, I guess that the fact that I'm French has a huge impact on my way to think, right ?
But the fact is that here, employees have a value and aren't just junks that employers can exploit without considering their right.

What you call "a real job", is slavery. And it's right that even here, unskilled labour is slavery, because anyone can do the job.
But the point is, civilized countries needs more and more skilled workers, and this has some consequences !

Isn't that nice ?

 

[YellowVortex]

man japan is a shithole

 

[Tatherwood]

Irl he wouldn't have backed off so easily, especially in these times (well, pre-corona but post-economic debacle". You'd be let go and they'd hire someone who'd actually do it.
Not saying it's good, just saying it is.

 

[UncleKaos]

This is Japanese worker culture

know it is late...but this is hell.. poor them