Isekai Kenkokuki - Vol. 2 Ch. 14

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Fucking... for real? Do Japanese people not get that slavery is bad? Every goddamn one of these fantasy stories has slaves. I know it’s just the author being lazy/pandering and ticking all the boxes, but it’s still getting old how these people coming from the modern world see slavery and aren’t the least bit troubled. Also why are the readers wanting slaves? It’s as gross as it is cringeworthy.

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@DarkLordAlfie wtf ?
At such times slaves were a common thing, the MC is apparently educated, had a lot of experience and a critical mind, he's already adapted to this world, why would he be surprised about it ?
He even told everyone to treat her the same way they'd do with other villagers, he wants her to be like them, not like a slave.

Because slavery is bad we should delete it from everything that runs in such eras ? How narrow-minded are you ?
If we're in a medievalish-renaissance era, of course there'll be slavery, the author can choose to avoid it but I don't why not avoiding the topic would be a bad thing, it's PART of the era, what's important is how the author handle it, here he clearly shows he's against slavery since Almus immediately tells everyone to treat her as their equal.
 
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@Shyning I was more complaining broadly that every fantasy manga has it, and is super casual about it. This is hardly the worst offender but it managed to go so long without slavery it’s annoying that it caved. Re: “narrow-minded”, if a story includes slavery as a point of conflict to be rectified or as a struggle that a character or characters experience that’s fine, including it as a form of wishfullfilment (which is how it is in this type of japanese media) is not. Again this story isn’t the worst offender.

Also couple points:

This story is plastered with logical inconsistencies, not having slavery in a system that would probably have slavery wouldn't be a worse offense than things it’s already done.

And also while slavery is common throughout the world’s history, the type of slavery it is showing here actually wasn’t common during the period of medieval culture this seems to be styled after.
 
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@DarkLordAlfie well, you made it a tad' clearer now, I get your point.
In "our" medieval culture, slavery indeed wasn't that common. In Asian cultures, that was still a thing (they weren't referred as "slaves" but were treated and worked as such). I'd agree it wasn't everywhere tho. Mostly back in the lands, the cities had a "face" to give.
 
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I'd be interested to see if the author bothered to look into different systems of slavery. For one it is not correct to say that systems of slavery didn't persist in Europe. You had some straight up slavery during the entire period. Not to mention things like Serfdom which often was slavery in all but name with Serfs tied to the land and their lord and who could be bought, sold, and mortgaged like other property. Indentured servitude was common and whilst that had a time limit the indentured servant was not free while they paid down their debt.

If we take the tack that this is pre-paper Europe (so pre 11th-12th century or so) then slavery is still reasonably common with, for example, 10% of people recorded in the Domesday Book being slaves. The taking of Muslim as slaves was common into the 15th century after which focus switched to African slaves with the use of slaves more common in Iberia than some other parts of Europe. Likewise Christian slaves were taken by the Muslim powers and pagan slaves (many of the Slavs and the precise entomological link between the two words, if any, is disputed) were widely traded between Christian and Muslim powers.

As the various Crusades petered out and Europe was mostly Christianised the supply of Muslim and Pagan slaves dried up which then shifted the focus to Africa. It was a source of slaves to Iberia before the triangle trade opened up and the awful conditions of chattel slavery in the Americas became a voracious eater of humanity consuming as many slaves as could be supplied in its inhumanity. That is all significantly after the 12th Century.

A side bar to all this was Christian Thralls in Scandinavia who were around until Scandinavia Christianized and thralldom was essentially outlawed around the 14th century.

Side bar two, the first broad restrictions on the slave trades where imposed on the selling of slaves to Muslims by the European powers and vice versa. One reason for this is that these slaves were deployed in war (the Ottoman Janissaries for example were made up mostly of Christian slaves converted to Islam). The Barbary Pirates took up the slack. They raided for slaves around the Mediterranean into the 19th century, though their heyday was in the 16th and 17th century.

I should add that I think that slavery should be universally reviled but that even then you have a wide variety of systems some significantly worse than others with chattel slavery in the Americas amongst the very worst. I also find it very distasteful when slavery is just stuck into a fantasy story since the author has a choice in how they built their world and most handle it badly. I would especially question the morals of any author who stick a slavery system in their world if it is mostly used as a supply of women for the protagonist.
 
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this is like that primitive technology channel on youtube. If I was reincarnated like Almus, I wouldn't even know how to invent my lunch
 
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Wow, Japanese media that doesn't vilify weed, surprising.
 
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amazed to see something japanese talking about weed and not condemning it
 
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So MC asked for centralization but slavery is ok? Slavery is one of the things on why countries stagnate. Outlawing slavery would strengthen country immensely. And that isn't because of morals but because data clearly shows that every civilization that had some kind of slavery went downhill.
 

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