Isekai Kenkokuki - Vol. 5 Ch. 33.1

[MangaDex]

 

[gusto]

So, are we missing 32.2?

 

[Freestyle]

Isnt the princess supposed to be executing her plan to get Almus already?

 

[Chizan]

@gusto the 32.1 should be the entire chapter, on their site it's just labeled 32, no idea why it's labeled 32.1 here...

 

[gusto]

Thanks.

 

[Yukimusha]

Is it possible to survive 120 lashes?

 

[HDMI1]

@Yukimusha Normally you'd die by system shock before they completed. Most likely they'll space them out over several sessions.

 

[Psychronia]

Embezzlement is a pandemic.

I have to wonder. In theory, crushing all this corruption and making the system more efficient is the most prosperous way to run a society, but are there any logistics for greasing palms actually working better and faster? I feel like there are, but also don't have any evidence to back that sentiment up.

 

[Morsealworth]

@Yukimusha They said it's 70 in total, though

@Psychronia corruption and bribe may be faster because of skipping the proper procedures, but it also essentially sets everything on manual control, making people make decisions instead of rules. Why is that important? It's important because just like before nothing was done without a rule to back it up, now all requests are ignored unless they're paired with a bribe and now it's a friggin' auction for highest bidder combined with regular extortions with completely absurd claims. For example, there was a case in Russia where authorities demanded a bribe from a young father because medics claimed to have found sperm in 7 y.o. girl's urine. Just in case you're wondering, not there is no way that is physically possible even if the alleged abuse had taken place. The guy went to prison for a completely non-existent case that would've fallen apart if anyone actually bothered to look at it.

And similar stuff can be told about logistics. The whole point of management is to set rules for automation of processes and sparing time for thinking about every single case. With rules, decisions can be made much faster.

 

[plastic_sludge]

Yo what the hell.

 

[karanga]

get lashed to hell and back nibba

 

[Psychronia]

@Morsealworth
Interesting. I guess it makes sense that a functional system working as planned will always work better. I'm more talking about any pragmatic merits to having bribes or allowing embezzlement. Like somehow losing more money in performance without embezzlement than the amount outright stolen.

In this chapter's case, the dude appeared to only give 5 of 15 sacks owed for a stupidly large 60% theft, so of course it makes sense to stop him. What if he's skimming 2% and tax collection without him would lose out on 15% though? Stuff like that.

 

[firefox1234]

Perfect punishment for the crime.

 

[Kaarme]

@Psychronia Corruption is inherent to autocracies (and even more primitive systems) because there are "irreplaceable" people in them. A king, or any kind of dictator, needs a whole system under him (like feudal nobility) to stay in power and suppress the people. The next man under the king needs, again, a system around him to stay in his position. This is why corruption will be tolerated. Not because it would bring any benefit to the state, obviously it doesn't, but because the government would collapse without. Almus can do here what he's doing because he's new, he's a hero loved by the people, and he has his own people who would never think about betraying him. He has no fricking use for some local, corrupt village chiefs from the previous ruler's era. However, once he's dead and buried, who knows how things will work for his successors.

More "developed" systems, with democracy and a rule of law, might decrease corruption, but they are stiff and indecisive. Kind of like in communism where nobody owns anything and thus doesn't benefit directly from their own work (unless through corruption) and consequently doesn't give a shit about anything, also in democracies officials making decisions don't see any personal benefits. Thus they actually benefit more from anally sticking to the rules and regulations and if there's something ambiguous, they will ask the applicant, petitioner, whatever to do it all over again or they will try to push the responsibility to another official. That allows them to keep their job, as they aren't irreplaceable. So, you may wait half a year for a permission to build some bloody shed, whereas in a corrupt system you'd give the official a bit of personal monetary benefit, and you'd have the papers by the next morning.

Nothing is perfect.

 

[Hakurei06]

Ease of taxation is more or less why the rise of agriculture was so grain-centric. you can't exactly levy a 10% tax on a hunter-gatherer, tubers can be left under ground, lentils don't ripen at the same time, etc. from the perspective of any ruling government, grain just meant sense.

The key to the nexus between grains and states lies, I believe, in the fact that only the cereal grains can serve as a basis for taxation: visible, divisible, assessable, storable, transportable, and “rationable.” Other crops—legumes, tubers, and starch plants—have some of these desirable state-adapted qualities, but none has all of these advantages. To appreciate the unique advantages of the cereal grains, it helps to place yourself in the sandals of an ancient tax-collection official interested, above all, in the ease and efficiency of appropriation.

 

[Wolvenworks]

They should add 30 more lashes to make it a solid 100 lashes. The 30 is for wasting Ron’s time and energy to have to deal with another embezzlement

 

[HYBRID_BEING]

> Although everyone does this too...
It's said how i hear these words IRL (in the same context) a lot. All the more so, considering the age portrayed here.

 

[breizh]

@HYBRID_BEING Yeah, in France a really famous lawyer used that argument in court to defend a politician a few months back too. For tax evasion.
It’s pathetic. (He went to jail)

 

[Izurak]

Pathetic taxation is theft!

 

[SotiCoto]

Soyon is clearly not exempt from the reverse-aging pattern, I see. She was actually kinda busty back when she was 12, but now she is 18 she seems to have become a flatty with the rest.

Maybe at a stretch you could blame it on a lot of manual labour and not being fed fruit by a generous griffon.... but... yeah... big stretch.