Isekai NTR ~Shinyuu no Onna wo Saikyou Skill de Otosu Houhou~ - Vol. 5 Ch. 36 - Special Training

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To the people saying they don't like this because of the NTR: This isn't NTR. UNLESS, you self-insert as Mikihiko, and that means you are weird.

To the people who say they like NTR: You are weird.
It's like saying Sci-Fi lovers are weird 'cause their science doesn't always correspond to real life science.

But I accept that I am weird anyway so... :kek:
 
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Not only that, but that asshole will be so clean you won't even have to worry about infections from waste products. Could be a hell of a cure for constipation, too.
The question is... Would you really like to have slime up your ass?

In my case, no thanks, I will pass.
To the people saying they don't like this because of the NTR: This isn't NTR. UNLESS, you self-insert as Mikihiko, and that means you are weird.
You are kinda wrong here.
Yes, Mikihiko is Eleonora's fiancé, but we have yet to see what he thinks of her. In fact, his courteous behaviour so far could mean he thinks of her as just another piece in his game of chess. So the rules of NTR doesn't apply here.
 

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This isn't NTR. UNLESS, you self-insert as Mikihiko, and that means you are weird.
While NTR usually stands for netorare, it can also stand for netori or netorase. In this case, it is netori so it can be described as NTR
 
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Well said, this is netori, not netorare.
This. It's a netorare-style story, though, rather than a netori-style story. And to explain that, netorare-style usually has the douchebag being the one stealing away rather than being the one being stolen from (netori-style). To anyone who might ask "what's the difference?", what the type actually is, is dependent solely on who the main character is, which is why it's properly classified netori, not netorare (we follow the douchebag doing the stealing, not the one being stolen from).

While NTR usually stands for netorare, it can also stand for netori or netorase. In this case, it is netori so it can be described as NTR

Not accurately. NTR is NeToRare, or in Kanji, [寝取られ], means "cheating with", referring to the act itself rather than to an individual (the way it was explained to me was that it's the difference between saying "It's a robbery!" vs. "It's a robber!"), and it is based off of Netorareru [寝取られる], which is the passive form of Netoru, and can be conjugated further, eg. kanojo ga yuujin ni netorareru [彼女が友人に寝取られる], which translates to, "The girlfriend is netoru'd by a friend". We can see this proven by looking at the root word Netoru [寝取る], which also forms the root for Netori [寝取り] and Netorase [寝取らせ], and means solely, "to sleep with a girl (or guy) that's already sleeping with someone else", aka cheating. Netori is the active form of cheating, meaning literally, "stealing someone else's partner". Netorase is the causative form of Netoru, meaning letting or forcing someone to netoru someone; this could be something like the storyline of the H-game Euphoria, where rape is forced by threat of execution, to something where a couple goes to a bar, finds someone that they want the wife to fuck, and they take him home so the man can watch (and maybe fuck her afterwards).

Now, why did Netorare become so popular over Netori, such that the former became very well known before the latter really surfaced in the anime/manga-loving zeitgeist beyond Japan? No fucking clue. Maybe just there's more masochists than sadists (which would sorta be supported by the "herbivorous men" stereotype of Japanese men, likely caused by social and work pressures, stress, and the reality that marriage simply isn't necessary in this day and age anymore).
 
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While NTR usually stands for netorare, it can also stand for netori or netorase. In this case, it is netori so it can be described as NTR
Wrong, and part of why there is so much confusion to the genre.

Maybe just there's more masochists than sadists (which would sorta be supported by the "herbivorous men" stereotype of Japanese men, likely caused by social and work pressures, stress, and the reality that marriage simply isn't necessary in this day and age anymore).
You are correct. It's this, definitely this.
 
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a story is netori, netorare or netorase, only based on who the main character is...

if the mc steals somebody else's girl - netori
if the mc's girl gets stolen - notorare
if the mc likes getting his girl stolen - netorase

there is no "netori-style" story or whatever, you don't need to be a bad guy stealing a girl to have it be a netorare story or a good guy taking away a bad guy's girl for it to be netori or whatever...it is all basically dependent on who the main character is and whether he is taking or he is being stolen from

this is the standard definition of netori

netori (literal meaning of kanji: "to take [someone] by sleeping with [them].")

Cuckolding someone. Sleeping with somebody else's partner.

This. It's a netorare-style story, though, rather than a netori-style story. And to explain that, netorare-style usually has the douchebag being the one stealing away rather than being the one being stolen from (netori-style). To anyone who might ask "what's the difference?", what the type actually is, is dependent solely on who the main character is, which is why it's properly classified netori, not netorare (we follow the douchebag doing the stealing, not the one being stolen from).
heck this story you're reading is titled "Netori in another world"
 
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snip there is no "netori-style" story or whatever snip
Yes, there is. It's called "what's the common body of stories in a genre like". Netorare-style stories are a certain way. Netori-style stories are another. As I said, it being Netorare-style doesn't mean that it's not Netori, just not standard for that genre.
 
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Interesting how she showed signs of coming around to his thinking. Hes basicly opening a new door for her and I guess with the pleasure, shes started accepting it.
 
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HAIKEN FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP DOING THIS TO YOURSELF


ITS GETTING PAINFUL FOR ME TO SEE THIS, ITS SECONDHAND EMBARRASSMENT
 

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