Isekai Summoner, Shinwa no Kaibutsu-tachi to Gendai de Musou Suru: Uragirareta Moto Eiyuu wa, Aiomome na Nakama to Heiwa ni Kurashitai - Vol. 1 Ch. 3

[Romisterie]

Why I have this headcanon that when he was executed in the previous world all his POWERFUL summoning creatures ERADICATED that entire world...

You probably thinking of other return to original world but it change and now has magic novels or manga.

 

[eureur]

The guy from the original world who didn't had any mana but still managed to revolutionize the world of support dungeoneering sounds way more interesting, than OP MC who fucks all his summons who are sexy girls half the time

Agreed. But that would take actual writing skill to pull off. Soooooo

 

[eureur]

My biggest question is how in the hades did that country even kill the MC in the first place? He appears to have a fuck ton of OP summons so it feels like it’d be super easy barely an inconvenience for them to have rescued him

So the movie can happen!

Also so far the writing is kinda... meh so its bound to be full of holes

 

[Kosnope]

Mc seems to have big shoes to fill considering that supporter genius.
Call me naive but why can't he come partially clean that he comes from a parallel world without dungeons, would make fitting in simpler. Just call it a jears long dream that replaced his common sense

Because to his parents and close friends that will feel like their son/friend got replaced with another person, who is similar but definitely not the same. Like a changeling from the myths. And that will automatically create a distance between them if not outright turn them hostile or at least cold towards him.

 

[DarkenerPlays]

The guy from the original world who didn't had any mana but still managed to revolutionize the world of support dungeoneering sounds way more interesting, than OP MC who fucks all his summons who are sexy girls half the time

I don't even think he fucked them

 

[RamenRider]

Oh now he pulls out the invisibility robe, only after the black robe.

Of course. He wasn’t expecting some random asshole to show up with a livestream camera at go TF to sleep o clock in the morning in a closed dungeon. Why are you acting like that was a reasonable expectation?

 

[legendaryswordsman]

Why I have this headcanon that when he was executed in the previous world all his POWERFUL summoning creatures ERADICATED that entire world...

One can hope

 

[legendaryswordsman]

Nice to see an Isekai MC that wasn't just an unpopular loser (so far at least)

Yeah refreshing see how long it lasts

 

[legendaryswordsman]

Here comes the gothic lolita yandere…

Certainly gives off those strong possessive vibes

 

[WalkingTargetPractice]

The guy from the original world who didn't had any mana but still managed to revolutionize the world of support dungeoneering sounds way more interesting, than OP MC who fucks all his summons who are sexy girls half the time

Speaking of Chad manaless og whateverthefuckmcsnameis, I wonder what happened to him.

 

[lalap00p]

Because to his parents and close friends that will feel like their son/friend got replaced with another person, who is similar but definitely not the same. Like a changeling from the myths. And that will automatically create a distance between them if not outright turn them hostile or at least cold towards him.

Yeah, that's a possibility.

 

[LuckyNChance]

Of course. He wasn’t expecting some random asshole to show up with a livestream camera at go TF to sleep o clock in the morning in a closed dungeon. Why are you acting like that was a reasonable expectation?

Cause he wanted to be avoided being seen and recognized in the first place. Why would you only use a half measure when you had a full measure also readily available?

Also he survived an fantasy isekai, proper preparation and ability to plan for potential risks should be part and parcel for completing such an adventure. This isn't his world, he don't know how it functions fully, exercising caution should be expected. Maybe even a bit of paranoia. He isn't some freshly summoned nobody with zero experience, yet choose the less effective of two options.

Cause you know what else what have let him explore a dungeon at double dark o clock in a closed dungeon without being caught? An invisibility cloak. And it not crazy to go, "Hmm...I thinking of doing this thing, it could be possible there are other people out there also going to do the thing I am". Which is why he wore the black cloak in the first place. If he truly didn't think he wouldn't run into anyone, he wouldn't have worn a magic cloak in the first place.

The only reason for the black robe was so that the author could have a reason for the MC to get famous without revealing his nature. But when the MC actually needed to not be caught or seen, he pulls out an actually effective item.

So yeah, its a completely reasonable expectation.

 

[saredesu]

Wrong tittle. I don't see any beast summoner.
It's really just “Japanese man and his foreign wives from another world“.

 

[RamenRider]

Cause he wanted to be avoided being seen and recognized in the first place. Why would you only use a half measure when you had a full measure also readily available?

Also he survived an fantasy isekai, proper preparation and ability to plan for potential risks should be part and parcel for completing such an adventure. This isn't his world, he don't know how it functions fully, exercising caution should be expected. Maybe even a bit of paranoia. He isn't some freshly summoned nobody with zero experience, yet choose the less effective of two options.

Cause you know what else what have let him explore a dungeon at double dark o clock in a closed dungeon without being caught? An invisibility cloak. And it not crazy to go, "Hmm...I thinking of doing this thing, it could be possible there are other people out there also going to do the thing I am". Which is why he wore the black cloak in the first place. If he truly didn't think he wouldn't run into anyone, he wouldn't have worn a magic cloak in the first place.

The only reason for the black robe was so that the author could have a reason for the MC to get famous without revealing his nature. But when the MC actually needed to not be caught or seen, he pulls out an actually effective item.

So yeah, its a completely reasonable expectation.

Except that’s antithetical to what he was doing in the first place. He had zero need for an invisibility cloak to test himself out unless he wanted to see how easily he could ambush creatures when he’s already reasonably confident that he’s going into a dungeon that won’t far exceed his abilities. If he wanted to just test out how well he can one sidedly hit stuff while invisible he’d just have walked around during the daytime with the cloak on and smashed stuff Instead of waiting to break in after hours. He wanted a “real” battle so that he has a measuring stick and unless he exclusively uses the invisibility cloak normally (which he clearly doesn’t on account of the fact that he swapped it out) it has no use other than getting into the dungeon even more stealthily than he already was doing.

 

[LuckyNChance]

Except that’s antithetical to what he was doing in the first place. He had zero need for an invisibility cloak to test himself out unless he wanted to see how easily he could ambush creatures when he’s already reasonably confident that he’s going into a dungeon that won’t far exceed his abilities. If he wanted to just test out how well he can one sidedly hit stuff while invisible he’d just have walked around during the daytime with the cloak on and smashed stuff Instead of waiting to break in after hours. He wanted a “real” battle so that he has a measuring stick and unless he exclusively uses the invisibility cloak normally (which he clearly doesn’t on account of the fact that he swapped it out) it has no use other than getting into the dungeon even more stealthily than he already was doing.

According to the chapter he said he has no intent of actually fighting cause of what he went through in the other world and just wanted to see the level that his summons are. His actual presence in the "real fight" as you put it had zero impact, which is doubled down on when his summon went buck wild in the dungeon.

Mind he didn't know that would happened either. But again either way, if his intention was to stand back and support his summons to gauge their strength, then it doesn't matter whether or not the monsters could see him or not. So ultimately in the battle it didn't matter what cloak he used, as he wasn't planning on directly participating.

And if it doesn't matter the cloak, it makes far more sense to use the more effective one if the cost to use them is the same. Maybe the invisibility cloak has a time limit, uses more mana, something. But its until its said they have different cost, they are the same cost to use.

Using the black cloak is like if one was to walk down the sidewalk just in your socks, rather than putting on sandals. Both have the same amount of effort, but one is clearly gonna work better in the situation.

The only reason I can think he may have used the black cloak is that maybe he wanted to be visible to his summons, but then that makes one ask does the cloak not work on them, and if that is not explained one could also assume that the invisibility cloak would not work on them. Most likely to master/summon bonds not explained at all.

This is all compounded by the fact that he wants to keep his summons and strength a secret, hence the stealth. Do you half ass being stealthy and secret keeping? That how you don't have secrets anymore, which is why we have this contrivance, its all part of the story. If he actually kept his secret he couldn't interact with the setting as much nor with the characters in the new world. And people would find that boring.

I mentioned this in my previous response, but I'll say it again. The only reason this black cloak exists is for the story reason of letting the MC show off his power in front of people despite him wanting to have a more peaceful life and keep his strength a secret.

Cause guess what, he'll do it again. "Oh there is a sudden threat that no one can handle all of a sudden despite all these A Rankers around, better put on my black cloak and use the flashiest magic I can, then suffer cringe damage that people are talking about the black cloak again, so much so that I didn't go outside for almost a week."

That takes place by chapter 31 in the web novel (link here if interested, its the jp wn as the translated one is only up to chapter six.)

If this doesn't make sense to you, then we will just have to agree to disagree, cause I won't be able to convince you and you won't be able to convince me.

 

[aoee]

Bets girl lycoris since im biased

 

[GadgetSteelmare]

Thanks for the TL! I'm already hooked on this manga.

 

[aizen07]

So it sounds like Lycrois has a twin named Hydros?

 

[Carn109]

Another yandere summon

 

[hippomann]

I feel a hug would have been really fitting here. The mood was right, she expressing both her joy that he is still himself and that he is safe and alive, and comforting him that not everything is his fault and that everything is going to be okay. She seem's really likable so far, imma be upset if the pets get super hostile and jealous of her or if she is actually a manipulating baddie.