It's Not Meguro-san's First Time - Vol. 10 Ch. 67 - Hate and love

[brainman]

"how dare she has sex with guy she is in relationship with!".

Like the story doesn't keep repeating how fucked in the head our female lead is/was when it comes to romance and intimacy, and how none of her relationships were ever much more than an endless string of dudes using her as an easy lay. The other guy got it right when he called her the school bicycle, because that's what she was.

Also mate, do you not remember the little sister saying something along the lines of "How do you feel about this body that dozens of guys have had their way with?". It was said in ill spirit by the character, and clearly to evoke the same feelings of jealousy and disgust that NTR does. So I'm not sure why you're getting all flustered over here.

 

[Kisato]

Ho oh. Something tells me (the whole premise and that ominous thought from Meguro right before the mom's intro) that we won't get wholesome and mature parents in this household!

Time for antics!

 

[Graywing]

"how dare she has sex with guy she is in relationship with!".
seriously grow up, touch some grass, interact with woman.

Yeah. There are definitely a lot of incels on these forums. Anytime a character that is woman has sex or had multiple relationships she's the "town bike" or used goods. If it's a man then he's a "chad". You can tell those people never been in a relationship or possibly never even had a real conversation with a woman. Other than family.

 

[Graywing]

Like the story doesn't keep repeating how fucked in the head our female lead is/was when it comes to romance and intimacy, and how none of her relationships were ever much more than an endless string of dudes using her as an easy lay. The other guy got it right when he called her the school bicycle, because that's what she was.

Also mate, do you not remember the little sister saying something along the lines of "How do you feel about this body that dozens of guys have had their way with?". It was said in ill spirit by the character, and clearly to evoke the same feelings of jealousy and disgust that NTR does. So I'm not sure why you're getting all flustered over here.

First of all her sister said that because she didn't want him to date her as she thought he was going to date and then dump her. Her sister was using an extreme to try and deter him and protect Meguro. Don't know why some people couldn't figure that out.

 

[kuma]

Like the story doesn't keep repeating how fucked in the head our female lead is/was when it comes to romance and intimacy, and how none of her relationships were ever much more than an endless string of dudes using her as an easy lay.

she did have higher degree intimacy tolerance, but that's because she WANT to be IN relationship, that make her exploited by bad people. not that she want easy sex and enjoy wild sex life and having sex outside relationship. hence the MC was contrast experience for her.

The other guy got it right when he called her the school bicycle, because that's what she was.

that's because the other guy have same mindset like you. that was also clear it was smearing so they can get away being the cunt in relationship and being unfaithful (she is doing it so i can do it too, which obviously was a lie).

Also mate, do you not remember the little sister saying something along the lines of "How do you feel about this body that dozens of guys have had their way with?". It was said in ill spirit by the character

for someone named brainman, i think all of it used on your name and none exist in your head. she clearly cautious a timid and unremarkable male lead can stay in relationship with meguro for so long and want to test him. like you know, generic tsun little sister.

clearly to evoke the same feelings of jealousy and disgust that NTR does. So I'm not sure why you're getting all flustered over here.

oh nevermind, cuck cum brainer can only think everything in porn trope and can't comprehend a fucking functioning relationship.

 

[Quern]

Oh no... 'Bout to get hit with an unpleasantly familiar narcissistic mom, aren't we?

 

[jokerxhisoka]

she did have higher degree intimacy tolerance, but that's because she WANT to be IN relationship, that make her exploited by bad people. not that she want easy sex and enjoy wild sex life and having sex outside relationship. hence the MC was contrast experience for her.

that's because the other guy have same mindset like you. that was also clear it was smearing so they can get away being the cunt in relationship and being unfaithful (she is doing it so i can do it too, which obviously was a lie).

for someone named brainman, i think all of it used on your name and none exist in your head. she clearly cautious a timid and unremarkable male lead can stay in relationship with meguro for so long and want to test him. like you know, generic tsun little sister.

oh nevermind, cuck cum brainer can only think everything in porn trope and can't comprehend a fucking functioning relationship.

her first love was highschool at the time. both are preparing for test for higher grade. they have 3 years difference.

IIRC, they are childhood friend and the senpai know meguro family. also prosecute him for what? going out with their daughter? both are consenting and senpai even told meguro beforehand he can't commit in relationship because he didn't like long distance relationship and they will break up if he got accepted to far away university which in the end he did and they are separated in good terms.

it has been explained that it was smearing by meguro ex because they did not to want be seen as the asshole in relationship. she never have sex with anyone she is not in relationship with. yes she has couple of ex, but again, it was mostly those ex expecting something different from meguro and disappointed they discovered meguro actually a docile and dedicated girlfriend despite her looks and reputation. meguro quick to accept relationship, but once in relationship, meguro also giving her all on it, which make her ex think she is easy girl.

IIRC, the mother was single parent and busy with works and often absent. but meguro say her mother is loving parent and they have good relationship. despite her packed schedule, she sometimes still cook for her.
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i swear some of you guys didn't actually read the series and come here just for rage and slutshaming.

seems like the "cuck cum brainer" here is you though. Everything you can think about is how she is a "slut"(your own words) and that she had sexual relationships with many guys, while I was clearly criticizing the people that were RESPONSIBLE for making/letting her go through that path. All my critics were directed at Meguro's parents and ex-boyfriend, but for some reason I was "slut shaming"? Care to explain? Why the fuck if her ex is on college or not matters? He clearly fed a middle school girl a bunch of BULLSHIT, that messed up her head, but you think there was nothing wrong with that? Do you really think that her parents shouldn't have done anything and it was alright? She was still picked up and discarded by a bunch of dudes, it doesn't matter if they were in a relationship or not. Her parents should have involved themselves on THEIR daughter situation and LEARN WHY she was doing that.

 

[kuma]

Everything you can think about is how she is a "slut"(your own words) and that she had sexual relationships with many guys, while I was clearly criticizing the people that were RESPONSIBLE for making/letting her go through that path.

what path? again, there are nothing inherently problematic with her path. she was just victim of bad ex smearing her to save their own ass. she had intimate relationship with many guys, but only one at the time and only with her boyfriend. it's just the relationship didn't last long because her ex expecting something different from meguro.

All my critics were directed at Meguro's parents and ex-boyfriend

again, you didn't read any of my point. her mother was a loving mother and meguro has good relationship with her. and ex boyfriend just can't want to commit due his condition, and meguro accepting it.

but for some reason I was "slut shaming"? Care to explain?

please look up definition of slut shaming for once.

Why the fuck if her ex is on college or not matters? He clearly fed a middle school girl a bunch of BULLSHIT, that messed up her head, but you think there was nothing wrong with that?

the point is that it was not bad adult exploiting immature teenage. BOTH are immature teenagers. there are nothing "messed up" here. ex boyfriend didn't fed her bullshit, he simply stated what he think in relationship are. boyfriend and girlfriend are going out and have intimate time (including sex) to make them different from normal friend. not that i personally agree, but it was NOT some sort of predatory action. it's just a simple teenage stupidity that resulted in having stupid mindset.

Do you really think that her parents shouldn't have done anything and it was alright? Her parents should have involved themselves on THEIR daughter situation and LEARN WHY she was doing that.

do what? meguro is not unhappy with her life. she also not hating her own condition. she didn't seek help either and at home, a lovable big sister.

She was still picked up and discarded by a bunch of dudes, it doesn't matter if they were in a relationship or not.

see, this is why. you have same mindset as her cunt ex. it doesn't matter if meguro actually dedicated to her monogamous relationship, she has audacity to have sex with different dude (?) at different time (?) thus it's wrong and earn being wronged! seriously, what's wrong with you?

seems like the "cuck cum brainer" here is you though.

still no though. japan is not stupid puritans obsessed society despite what NTR porn told you. if you are outraged when woman have past relationship and have sexual experience, then keep reading those virgin obsessed fiction targeted towards puritans obsessed niche. lmao.

 

[jokerxhisoka]

what path? again, there are nothing inherently problematic with her path. she was just victim of bad ex smearing her to save their own ass. she had intimate relationship with many guys, but only one at the time and only with her boyfriend. it's just the relationship didn't last long because her ex expecting something different from meguro.

again, you didn't read any of my point. her mother was a loving mother and meguro has good relationship with her. and ex boyfriend just can't want to commit due his condition, and meguro accepting it.

please look up definition of slut shaming for once.

the point is that it was not bad adult exploiting immature teenage. BOTH are immature teenagers. there are nothing "messed up" here. ex boyfriend didn't fed her bullshit, he simply stated what he think in relationship are. boyfriend and girlfriend are going out and have intimate time (including sex) to make them different from normal friend. not that i personally agree, but it was NOT some sort of predatory action. it's just a simple teenage stupidity that resulted in having stupid mindset.

do what? meguro is not unhappy with her life. she also not hating her own condition. she didn't seek help either and at home, a lovable big sister.

see, this is why. you have same mindset as her cunt ex. it doesn't matter if meguro actually dedicated to her monogamous relationship, she has audacity to have sex with different dude (?) at different time (?) thus it's wrong and earn being wronged! seriously, what's wrong with you?

still no though. japan is not stupid puritans obsessed society despite what NTR porn told you. if you are outraged when woman have past relationship and have sexual experience, then keep reading those virgin obsessed fiction targeted towards puritans obsessed niche. lmao.

Yeah yeah, whatever. Just bend yourself more. If you can't understand how bad it is that she thought she should say "yes" to anyone that came to her, to anything they said, then I don't have anything else to discuss with you. Again, you're the one that is fixated on how many she had a relationship with. Last but not least, since when are you the ambassador of the japanese mindset to say how they think and deal with their sexual lives?

 

[kuma]

If you can't understand how bad it is that she thought she should say "yes" to anyone that came to her, to anything they said, then I don't have anything else to discuss with you. Again, you're the one that is fixated on how many she had a relationship with.

she only say yes when she is NOT in relationship, and only did it with people she is on monogamous relationship with. how she did anything wrong here?

Last but not least, since when are you the ambassador of the japanese mindset to say how they think and deal with their sexual lives?

come on, a lot of sociology study in japan already been done and translated to english. maybe look it up? i am not ambassador, i just actually interested to study and learn, unlike you.

Yeah yeah, whatever. Just bend yourself more.

if you are happy with your own stubbornness then go ahead. it's your own loss. maybe build relationship with lot different people with lot different mindset and you will learn to bend (understanding) to other people different value.

 

[jokerxhisoka]

she only say yes when she is NOT in relationship, and only did it with people she is on monogamous relationship with. how she did anything wrong here?

come on, a lot of sociology study in japan already been done and translated to english. maybe look it up? i am not ambassador, i just actually interested to study and learn, unlike you.

if you are happy with your own stubbornness then go ahead. it's your own loss. maybe build relationship with lot different people with lot different mindset and you will learn to bend (understanding) to other people different value.

You are interested to "learn" only what you agree with. Sociology study, ham? Do I need to reference how japanese go crazy if they learn that their idol isn't pure? Do I need to say again that the problem isn't how many she had a relationship with, but that she just says yes to just anyone and the reason she does that is because she was groomed into that way of thinking?

 

[kuma]

You are interested to "learn" only what you agree with. Sociology study, ham? Do I need to reference how japanese go crazy if they learn that their idol isn't pure?

and you do realize this idol fanatic culture is frowned upon by wider japan society right? there is reason they are looked down upon and be seen as creep .

Do I need to say again that the problem isn't how many she had a relationship with, but that she just says yes to just anyone.

some people like to try relationship first to see if there is sparks or not. this is very common mindset for someone to be in relationship. have you never in relationship before?

the reason she does that is because she was groomed into that way of thinking?

except that's wrong. you literally didn't read the series and what i write, huh. she is not groomed, she is in relationship with people around her age and it's even implied both know each other for long time (childhood friends). and she is wholly conscious and not convince or enforced about certain mindset. the guy just say what he think and she didn't object it. and again, they are in the end separated on friendly terms due him getting accepted to far away university. he even stated those condition before they are going out. not a single time she is groomed or it was predatory or forced upon. it might influence her and made her what it is thinking dating is just something that come on goes, but it was wholly on her decision as she admit it.

 

[jokerxhisoka]

and you do realize this idol fanatic culture is frowned upon by wider japan society right? there is reason they are looked down upon and be seen as creep .

some people like to try relationship first to see if there is sparks or not. this is very common mindset for someone to be in relationship. have you never in relationship before?

except that's wrong. you literally didn't read the series and what i write, huh. she is not groomed, she is in relationship with people around her age and it's even implied both know each other for long time (childhood friends). and she is wholly conscious and not convince or enforced about certain mindset. the guy just say what he think and she didn't object it. and again, they are in the end separated on friendly terms due him getting accepted to far away university. he even stated those condition before they are going out. not a single time she is groomed or it was predatory or forced upon. it might influence her and made her what it is thinking dating is just something that come on goes, but it was wholly on her decision as she admit it.

Yes, he did groom her. She didn't have that kind of thinking before being a relationship with him and she only does it because HE TOLD HER to do so. No, they didn't separate on friendly terms and he did discard her after having his fun. He said I'm leaving you and she accepted it because that's all she did in their relationship. She didn't want to separate. You yourself admitted that he groomed her... "influence her and made her what it is thinking dating is just something that come on goes" = groomed into that thinking.

 

[kuma]

Yes, he did groom her. She didn't have that kind of thinking before being a relationship with him and she only does it because HE TOLD HER to do so. No, they didn't separate on friendly terms and he did discard her after having his fun. He said I'm leaving you and she accepted it because that's all she did in their relationship. She didn't want to separate. You yourself admitted that he groomed her... "influence her and made her what it is thinking dating is just something that come on goes" = groomed into that thinking.

again, they are around similar age, and he already stated he can't didn't want long distance relationship and she ACCEPT dating with that condition. influencing other people =/= grooming. with that logic, all conversation is grooming action. have you never communicate with other people with other people in your life? all he did was speaking what in his mind. he never coerce meguro to think like him. do i think he has correct mindset? absolutely no. but don't accuse someone of a wrongdoing for something he never did.

 

[jokerxhisoka]

again, they are around similar age, and he already stated he can't didn't want long distance relationship and she ACCEPT dating with that condition. influencing other people =/= grooming. with that logic, all conversation is grooming action. have you never communicate with other people with other people in your life? all he did was speaking what in his mind. he never coerce meguro to think like him. do i think he has correct mindset? absolutely no. but don't accuse someone of a wrongdoing for something he never did.

He didn't state anything, he said that he thinks their relationship won't last forever and she didn't understand what he meant.

influencing other people =/= grooming

Influencing is grooming, depending on the context. In their context it was grooming.

 

[kuma]

He didn't state anything, he said that he thinks their relationship won't last forever and she didn't understand what he meant.

she understand what he mean. she even nodded it.

Influencing is grooming, depending on the context. In their context it was grooming.

you are the one completely ignoring the context. both are school student. he has in no position of power to dictate her. it was her decision to tolerate his thinking.