Jinsei Gyakuten - Uwaki Sare Enzai wo Kiserareta Ore ga, Gakuen Ichi no Bishoujo ni Natsukareru - Vol. 2 Ch. 6

[NoAddedWater]

IDK man, if an apology means = problem no longer exist/just don't do it again, then nah, you HAVE to add consequences ESPECIALLY at a young age because kids are such manipulitive bastards (speaking from experience)

nah bruh of course there are consequences the apology just has to be recognised. Not even accepted, just recognise their actions. Consequences come after, so the suffering spiral doesn’t start.

 

[Tap2]

Yeah I don’t really get the cheater guy. Like, you enjoy destroying relationships?? Man someone needs to have a look at him if he’s someone that enjoys seeing other people suffer.

Yup. Talk about psychopathology ...

 

[Tap2]

No it wouldn't, there is no excuse for what she did to him. She didn't speak because she was a coward. Even now she's delusional in thinking they can get back together somehow.

Aha. I think I wasn't clear enough. I did not mean that he should forgive her.
Instead, it could be healing for him to see how much she regrets having betrayed him, and that she sees the scumbag for the monster he is.
Also, that way he might see that rather than being the instigator, she was a useful idiot (look up the term if you don't know it), a weak girl easily charmed by the good -looking rotten jock.
That might help him.
Or not. Above all, he could use more help in setting things straight.

 

[NoAddedWater]

Yup. Talk about psychopathology ...

I don’t even think a psychopath would see anything to gain from that. He’s far more fucked up that that.

 

[Vin_ster]

Aha. I think I wasn't clear enough. I did not mean that he should forgive her.
Instead, it could be healing for him to see how much she regrets having betrayed him, and that she sees the scumbag for the monster he is.
Also, that way he might see that rather than being the instigator, she was a useful idiot (look up the term if you don't know it), a weak girl easily charmed by the good -looking rotten jock.
That might help him.
Or not. Above all, he could use more help in setting things straight.

She can say she regrets what she did all she wants, but at the end of the day she threw herself at Kondo because she just wants to feel better in the end. If she had truly realized what a piece of shit he is, she wouldn't have done it.

 

[Tap2]

She can say she regrets what she did all she wants, but at the end of the day she threw herself at Kondo because she just wants to feel better in the end. If she had truly realized what a piece of shit he is, she wouldn't have done it.

Oh. Definitely!
I'm not discussing making her feel better, but rather trying to get his wounds to heal.
Because it's a quite small subset of mankind that are as bad as Kondo, so seeing what actually happened would be good for him.
That's really all.
Also, they're young, so from my perspective it would be good if she learned something from this, so she can be a better person in the future.
Kondo?
That waste of space should just be locked away permanently, or held under water until he stops breathing, depending on one's stance on capital punishment. That kind of person does not improve.

 

[Tap2]

I don’t even think a psychopath would see anything to gain from that. He’s far more fucked up that that.

You do have a point.
There was something about a trigger event in his back-story, but it didn't feel compelling.
Then again, I don't understand him, so what do I know?
Maybe he's on a mission from some god?

 

[Tap2]

No it wouldn't, there is no excuse for what she did to him. She didn't speak because she was a coward. Even now she's delusional in thinking they can get back together somehow.

Yeah, as it's looking right now he'll have to get that healing from seeing her brutally crash and burn.
Although I can't even imagine why she's getting in touch with the monster?

 

[Aurosandro]

yeah, I get that. What’s annoying is the language people are using in the comments and saying shit like she should suffer, so I guess I’m just trying to provide an alternate view. This entire situation is also just so confusing and messed up I don’t even think there’s a right choice tho

You aren't brave for standing up for a hoe, you just have some twisted main character syndrome that pushes you to be a contrarian even when you end in a really retrded position you can't defend in any way. Well, I chose to believe that, because if not, it just means you see yourself or someone close to you (like your wife) in the hoe, and you want people to not be harsh because of that.

Tldr: Your alternative view is shit.

The only logic views one should have here is, asking what kind of punishment should she get? And if it should be quick suffering or lasting one?

 

[playaza]

Idk what she can do to redeem herself, broke up with that guy and he will spread rumor about her, report him but no one would believe her, she is fucked either way

 

[zerio]

If you look up "sunk cost fallacy" this bitches picture should show up in box surrounded by bright flashing lights

I have heard sunk cost fallacy in gacha games. But I have never thought it applied in being despicable too.
I wonder if this is a thing irl, like you continue doing bad things because you're already bad.

 

[NoAddedWater]

You aren't brave for standing up for a hoe, you just have some twisted main character syndrome that pushes you to be a contrarian even when you end in a really retrded position you can't defend in any way. Well, I chose to believe that, because if not, it just means you see yourself or someone close to you (like your wife) in the hoe, and you want people to not be harsh because of that.

Tldr: Your alternative view is shit.

The only logic views one should have here is, asking what kind of punishment should she get? And if it should be quick suffering or lasting one?

Is it this controversial to have a belief in forgiveness?
My beliefs are in kindness, and forgiveness forms a part of that. I’m not trying to stand up for anyone, it’s just that sometimes other people can’t see what you see, and I can’t see what they see.
If I explain simply then we can get our views across to each other. As part of this, I think it is best to separate the belief from the person. I don’t know why you chose to attack me personally, but surely there’s a better way to converse than attacking someone.
tbh it might sound sometimes like I’m being a contrarian, but I’m rather trying to respect and see the logic in others’ views. If I’m having a conversation, I’m not trying to ‘win’. I’m trying to understand, not because I think I’m some ‘main character’, but it’s just what I believe in.
So, please tell me why she should be punished, and explain your argument against me (also less personal please).

 

[NoAddedWater]

I have heard sunk cost fallacy in gacha games. But I have never thought it applied in being despicable too.
I wonder if this is a thing irl, like you continue doing bad things because you're already bad.

It would make sense as a kinda “ I’ve done this many bad things already so I might as well keep going”
Similar to how “ I’ve spent this much money already so I might as well keep going”

 

[Graveyard_1991]

Is it this controversial to have a belief in forgiveness?
My beliefs are in kindness, and forgiveness forms a part of that. I’m not trying to stand up for anyone, it’s just that sometimes other people can’t see what you see, and I can’t see what they see.
If I explain simply then we can get our views across to each other. As part of this, I think it is best to separate the belief from the person. I don’t know why you chose to attack me personally, but surely there’s a better way to converse than attacking someone.
tbh it might sound sometimes like I’m being a contrarian, but I’m rather trying to respect and see the logic in others’ views. If I’m having a conversation, I’m not trying to ‘win’. I’m trying to understand, not because I think I’m some ‘main character’, but it’s just what I believe in.
So, please tell me why she should be punished, and explain your argument against me (also less personal please).

the problem is not belief in forgiveness its that NOT everything in the world deserve forgiveness there are things thats simply unforgivable for example if someone assulted a child ((yep that type of assult)) its unforgivable same as what this hoe have done she not only cheated but also framed him , cheating on itself can never be forgiven so add the framing above that yeah she doesn't deserve any mercy .

let me give you an advice here forgiveness is a good and respectable thing and a sign of a good person but forgiving an unforgivable thing doesn't make you a good person anyone who said forgive such an extreme thing is either a lying hypocrite at worst or idiot and naive at best.

 

[NoAddedWater]

the problem is not belief in forgiveness its that NOT everything in the world deserve forgiveness there are things thats simply unforgivable for example if someone assulted a child ((yep that type of assult)) its unforgivable same as what this hoe have done she not only cheated but also framed him , cheating on itself can never be forgiven so add the framing above that yeah she doesn't deserve any mercy .

let me give you an advice here forgiveness is a good and respectable thing and a sign of a good person but forgiving an unforgivable thing doesn't make you a good person anyone who said forgive such an extreme thing is either a lying hypocrite at worst or idiot and naive at best.

Sorry, my response was to the personal attack.
You‘re right that she shouldn’t be forgiven, at least not now, but as she genuinely is regretful and sorry, it does more good to acknowledge that so that she doesn’t harm herself.

 

[ActuallyArma]

Fuuuucking hell. After reading all the comments (the spoiler'd ones especially), am on the fence about picking up the WN (or LN). I think if I do it'll just end up as sunk cost fallacy and hate reading, but I've got morbid curiosity for how things play out from here. I mean, I get the gist of things from what some people have kindly shared and explain here but, man...

 

[Cross-21-]

Fuuuucking hell. After reading all the comments (the spoiler'd ones especially), am on the fence about picking up the WN (or LN). I think if I do it'll just end up as sunk cost fallacy and hate reading, but I've got morbid curiosity for how things play out from here. I mean, I get the gist of things from what some people have kindly shared and explain here but, man...

If you enjoy this type of stories this WN is one of the best. Yeah some Miyuki and Kondo chapter's are hard to swallow at first, but Ai's and Endo's compensate for them big time!
We did share most of it here but there are some parts like "couples" stuff we mostly skipped that also give their type of charm to the story. So even if you saw all our spoilers it's still not a waste to give it a read...


But if you decide not to and want to know about some stuff, just ask. I personally try to answer all the questions i see, especially when i'm tagged

 

[legendaryswordsman]

Mum the GOAT!

Yeah mum is amazing sticking up for her son

 

[legendaryswordsman]

Now imagine if the mother knew that she falsely accused her son of sexual assault too.

Oh then there would be hell to pay and it also seems like the girls mom is also copy that she was with him an assumed things were going well don't think she'll be too happy with her daughter either

 

[legendaryswordsman]

go mom~ tell that slut off

if she truly regrets her wction she should have cut ties with her cheating partner are try to be better but nah

I will certainly agree with you there she should have done some self-reflection and realized that she had made a mistake and tried to make the best of it but she went deeper into the pit instead, into her own misery with that sorry excuse of a man. Of course he said himself but he gets bored with all the women so I will only come out of time before he gets bored of her where will she be then where will she be then