Jinsei Gyakuten - Uwaki Sare Enzai wo Kiserareta Ore ga, Gakuen Ichi no Bishoujo ni Natsukareru - Vol. 2 Ch. 9

[AngelusDaeva]

Alot of people are hating on Miyuki but you have to remember she is but a child who is being pulled along and simply trying to protect herself. At this time she has no clue the errors of what she is doing not only taking things for granted but also being peered pressured into not going against everyone else either. Most people when committing a mistake like Miyuki will just double down and make things worse for themselves instead of actually properly fixing what they did wrong. It wont be until it's too late for her that she finally realizes how dumb she was and how much she has lost. The worse part is once she realizes her wrongs she has no clue how to start making ammends and just ends up wallowing in despair as at that point the one she wrong, Eiji, does not even want anything to do with her anymore. Ontop of the fact there is no one left on her side to even guide her back onto the proper path.



While I do not condone the things she's done as well as her inactions to stop the bullying, I do believe in giving her a second chance at life and that the amount she has suffered and lost is vastly disproportionate to the sins she's commited. More so when she is properly reflecting on her actions and has fully commited to accepting any and all punishments directed her way.

Thank you! Finally a sane comment.

We, as the audience, have the benefit of the third-person omniscient perspective on this story. We can see and hear everything that all of the characters are doing, saying, and thinking. This means we can see the bricks being laid on the road that Miyuki is starting to build, and, thanks to the plethora of spoilers that have told everything that is going to happen later on, we know exactly how fucked up Miyuki's lie in this chapter is going to be for her.

If we look at the situation from her perspective, her doubling down makes sense. She has lost both her boyfriend, and the family that she was going to marry into. She's literally a walking crater of despair, and she's thinking that Kondo will save her from her despair.

Does this mean that she shouldn't face consequences of her lies? No. Not at all. She should be held to account and face some consequences, but, from what I have read in all the spoilers, what she will face is way too disproportionate to her actions.

 

[AngelusDaeva]

I think there's a big disconnect from the folks who read ahead in the novel versus those of us who are learning of things as the manga chapters come out.

From what I've seen so far she was manipulated into being Kondo's personal f-toy, then like an addict she couldn't break herself free from him once it was pretty damn obvious he was bad for her, and now she's in a failure spiral of making increasingly bad choices because of her fear of what will happen if the lie comes apart. She's like a prostitute covering for her pimp because she's more afraid of the pimp than the cop about to arrest her.

Related we know Kondo was emotionally blackmailing her but has there been any indication yet if he's blackmailing her in other ways? He 100% seems like the type of scum that would hold a sex tape over her head.

EXACTLY! She's been manipulated, and while she should face consequences for not stepping up about the bullying, she is, at the end of the day, a child. Like you said, she's starting to spiral, and she appears to double-, triple-, and quadruple-down to try and save face. But, then again, Japanese culture is vastly different to US, or even European, culture. So, it's not outside the realm of possibility to see students not step up to stop the bullying and isolation of Eiji lest they face the same social punishment.

Hell, I'm sure everyone in this thread have experiences like that where they double-down on a lie to try and protect themselves from some perceived punishment, only to be met with a greater punishment for not telling the truth.

 

[Thausamo]

What about if female lead wasn't on roof he would have jumped thx to what she did, people still will try and justify her actions and make it seem she had no choice but to lie, cheat and send him into a spiral of depression. It was her choice to accept the seduction, she just always took MC for granted and would always be there no matter what she does

Read all comments and you find some defender trying to argue she is also a victim because she was "seduced" by senpai

 

[Thausamo]

as sensei said they r kids and dont understand that the only ones fuckedup are themselves, they r victims too and she is one of the biggest victims of the story. author tries to emphatize that after in the story but i cant forgive her just bc he was about to die at the rooftop she choose her safety (scared of backlash of her lies when it comes to truth that if she told). and yeah maybe if he was randomass guy she met in highschool i wouldnt care this much but she know his entire family for years, they were friends for years too how can you be this stupid and brainless. at this point she wont be redeemable bc she is in too deep thats why she keeps choosing the worst and choosing the right after all this time isnt even possible for her bc that needs a lot of maturity which she doesnt even have neither experience or mental capacity.

She isn't a victim, she is a complice. She never tried fix the situation or do anything to stop the lie, on the contrary, she trying hide the true because she don't want face the consequence for her own actions. Like how she lied to mc, she lied to her mom and the teacher because she don't have deal with the consequence of her own actions. In irl we meet a few persons like her, they prefer stay lying than face deal with the consequence of their actions, shifting the blame instead accepting they are suffering because their own actions. She isn't a victim.

 

[dcdfvr]

She isn't a victim, she is a complice. She never tried fix the situation or do anything to stop the lie, on the contrary, she trying hide the true because she don't want face the consequence for her own actions. Like how she lied to mc, she lied to her mom and the teacher because she don't have deal with the consequence of her own actions. In irl we meet a few persons like her, they prefer stay lying than face deal with the consequence of their actions, shifting the blame instead accepting they are suffering because their own actions. She isn't a victim.

Except she doesnt know what Eiji is going through. She had no clue about any of the bullying or what was happening to Eiji until after it had already happened. She didnt even know about his attempt and was under the deluded impression that things would simply die down and go back to the way it was before. Yes she could have tried to speak up and stop things at that point, but even then it was already too late as most were already on Kondo's side. Ontop of the fact she truly believed Kondo's words that he would take care of everything, not fully comprehending what he means when he said that.

Understand that while what she did was wrong she is still a victim simple used by Kondo. Kondo, who in turn wasn't even the real villain and was also being used by someone else. However unlike Miyuki, Kondo is not a victim as he went in with full intentions of harming and breaking Eiji.

Also do not be mistaken when I state "a person is also a victim" that they can did nothing wrong. A victim can still have done wrong but more often than not they were led to do those wrongs by the illusion that they had no other choice.

 

[lovolo]

She isn't a victim, she is a complice. She never tried fix the situation or do anything to stop the lie, on the contrary, she trying hide the true because she don't want face the consequence for her own actions. Like how she lied to mc, she lied to her mom and the teacher because she don't have deal with the consequence of her own actions. In irl we meet a few persons like her, they prefer stay lying than face deal with the consequence of their actions, shifting the blame instead accepting they are suffering because their own actions. She isn't a victim.

We're talking what-ifs here. Would Miyuki's plan of ending things with Kondou works in first place if Eiji didn't catch them red handed? Would she be able going back to be cute innocent girlfriend and Eiji won't realize the affair? First big obstacle is Eiji's mom. Would she say nothing if she saw Eiji and Miyuki still in a relationship? Maybe she thought they're on a break period or something or some "white lie" is okay?

Spoiler: I know big obstacle #2

The senpai club prez definitely wants to tell Eiji with photos so I guess it's kinda hard to avoid on this one, but what if she didn't do it?

 

[CommanderYammarkX6]

Does this mean that she shouldn't face consequences of her lies? No. Not at all. She should be held to account and face some consequences, but, from what I have read in all the spoilers, what she will face is way too disproportionate to her actions.

That's Bullshit. Kondo is going to juvie while the other one is going to prison. All Miyuki has to do is pay compensation (which she could have contest to lower it) for damages which was also applied to the others who did property damage and online slander. She has done nothing worthy of redemption but rather feeling sorry for herself due to the consequences she is facing which are also applied to the others.