Kaette Kudasai! Akutsu-san - Vol. 8 Ch. 153

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You're right about them being different, at least those 2 have come to terms about how they feel about each other (personally but don't outright say it to each other) however at least with them, they're not scared to spend time with each other, hell Naoto has actually been more serious about how he talks about her to others, and he doesn't deny that he feels something towards her, Nagatoro who used to bully him is now ready to throw hands with anyone who messes with Naoto or disrespects him, hell she was ready to fight Machida on multiple occasions due to how she talks to him recklessly, and Naoto has to hold her back which makes me laugh

Those 2 show more how they care for each other vs these 2 either being scared or passive


That's just my personal opinion, but I do agree with what you say for the most part, I just want Ooyama and Riko to take that next step in their relationship, the little nudges here and there are just not cutting it for me
I really envision the "progress" as two faucets fed from separate reservoirs; Hachiouji and Nagatoro have spouts that are open to a trickle, slowly and steadily filling the "event", whereas Akutsu and Ooyama are tightly closed, the reservoirs filling more and more with no outlet, until they burst or the valves are opened to full.

Neither one is uncommon... Just different. But the difference in demonstrable behavior is accountable for the variation. Both pairs have very similar progress in their "feelings", one just isn't trying as hard to hold back. Two stylistic approaches to the same concept, and believe me, I get the annoyance a "hold it in until it bursts" approach can cause.
 
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I really envision the "progress" as two faucets fed from separate reservoirs; Hachiouji and Nagatoro have spouts that are open to a trickle, slowly and steadily filling the "event", whereas Akutsu and Ooyama are tightly closed, the reservoirs filling more and more with no outlet, until they burst or the valves are opened to full.

Neither one is uncommon... Just different. But the difference in demonstrable behavior is accountable for the variation. Both pairs have very similar progress in their "feelings", one just isn't trying as hard to hold back. Two stylistic approaches to the same concept, and believe me, I get the annoyance a "hold it in until it bursts" approach can cause.
This was very well said
 
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It's a bit frustrating to know that she just said she loves him to his face, but in Japanese she doesn't actually say she loves him, which is how she's able to make it sound like she's just talking about the eyebrows. Just grow some balls and admit you're talking about him for once :pout:
Ah yes, the BANE of all romance lovers everywhere: the way Japanese can just say "I like!" without saying explicitly what or who is being liked! An emotional outburst of a romantic confession? No, actually, it's just an appreciation of the lovely eyebrows! Hours and days and weeks and years and decades and decades of delayed romantic development is powered by this One Japanese Grammar Trick!
 
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It wasn't unambiguous in the original text.
Yes it was. People seem to think that we're all walking around Japan not knowing what anybody is saying just because of subject omission in sentences. But it was absolutely 100% crystal clear that it was her telling him that she liked him, despite the omission of the subject.
 
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"Oh no he's hooot"

But seriously, this chapter is a bit of a copout.
 
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People be actin like this Manga has 40 pages every chapter. Sit down people there's like not even 10 pages a chapter, things aren't gonna move at sonic speed, calm down. If they just fucked and got married it wouldn't be interesting. We all stayed with this Manga so long because of their dumb love antics, now sit down and keep reading those antics.

There's another romance Manga I'm reading now that has long since had the two mcs start dating, and lemme tell you what, it's gotten really boring. They just sit around and go "yeah we like each other" and that's it, for the past like 20 chapters. Yall either want this to just up and end now or become a boring slop.
 
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I hate, with every atom that composes my being, that authors make the progress so slow, that the characters look like a caricature of a caricature of a caricature of a couple who like each other, but don't know yet
 
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Fair... But unless my memory fails me, she's literally said it multiple times knowing he was conscious... Smh. But, they're still quite entertaining.
Well, Ooyama confessed to liking her really early on already, and has used the word love for it like three times recently (including in front of her bloody parents)? She, on the other hand, just can't be honest and always backtracks everything. It's really dragging on to a ridiculous degree.
 
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Well, Ooyama confessed to liking her really early on already, and has used the word love for it like three times recently (including in front of her bloody parents)? She, on the other hand, just can't be honest and always backtracks everything. It's really dragging on to a ridiculous degree.
Well... Neither of them is capable of being honest... It's rather the central premise. I still enjoy it, but I suppose its not as compelling as a more "active" manga for some. Can always look a little earlier in the comments for my perspective on this one versus a more "active" one, Nagatoro was the one I referenced.
 
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It's a bit frustrating to know that she just said she loves him to his face, but in Japanese she doesn't actually say she loves him, which is how she's able to make it sound like she's just talking about the eyebrows. Just grow some balls and admit you're talking about him for once :pout:
Dang pronoun-phobes.
 
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Well... Neither of them is capable of being honest... It's rather the central premise. I still enjoy it, but I suppose its not as compelling as a more "active" manga for some. Can always look a little earlier in the comments for my perspective on this one versus a more "active" one, Nagatoro was the one I referenced.
It's fine for a while... and obviously if I hated the manga on the whole I wouldn't even be here. But still, any premise can get stretched too thin if you drag it too much. 153 chapters and it still being like this is a bit too much for even the most stretched sense of suspension of disbelief. I've not read Nagatoro to compare to that for myself, but it's not like I mind "slow burn" romances - heck, I was even fine with a certain communication disorder couple taking over 300 chapters to start dating... and longer chapters than this one's, at that.

But compared to the variety in that manga here it's always focused on the two of them, and like 90% of the time in just the one apartment. And they're so obvious-to-a-ridiculous-degree horny for each other and have been for a long time... and have even confessed a bunch of times only to always, always backtrack. Like, being together every single day, even going on a frickin' hot spring trip with just the two of them... but still can't call it dating even when everyone else around them does. Obviously even the author is entirely self-aware of this given the reactions from the other characters, but just keeps doing it anyway. Basically being just as cowardly as the characters. At this rate this'll get a gore tag when they finally literally explode - or burst, as you put it - from the non-stop "edging."

Anyway, wall of text aside at least I'm now caught up, so I suppose it won't be quite as bothersome when it'll just be the occasional chapter here and there instead of binging it in a few days.
 
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It's fine for a while... and obviously if I hated the manga on the whole I wouldn't even be here. But still, any premise can get stretched too thin if you drag it too much. 153 chapters and it still being like this is a bit too much for even the most stretched sense of suspension of disbelief. I've not read Nagatoro to compare to that for myself, but it's not like I mind "slow burn" romances - heck, I was even fine with a certain communication disorder couple taking over 300 chapters to start dating... and longer chapters than this one's, at that.

But compared to the variety in that manga here it's always focused on the two of them, and like 90% of the time in just the one apartment. And they're so obvious-to-a-ridiculous-degree horny for each other and have been for a long time... and have even confessed a bunch of times only to always, always backtrack. Like, being together every single day, even going on a frickin' hot spring trip with just the two of them... but still can't call it dating even when everyone else around them does. Obviously even the author is entirely self-aware of this given the reactions from the other characters, but just keeps doing it anyway. Basically being just as cowardly as the characters. At this rate this'll get a gore tag when they finally literally explode - or burst, as you put it - from the non-stop "edging."

Anyway, wall of text aside at least I'm now caught up, so I suppose it won't be quite as bothersome when it'll just be the occasional chapter here and there instead of binging it in a few days.
Ah, that's one of the big differences I've mentioned between this work and Komi, there's SO much "random" stuff going on there, 300 didn't seem that long. Not that it would work, but imagine Tadano and Komi in a room, rarely interacting with others for 100 chapters... shudder Very minimal supporting characters here. I think it often can feel more dragged out than it really is, because it's basically JUST them. I imagine if there was more interaction with others, more SOL, instead of only seeing their interactions, it might seem different. But that's just how it is.

That being said, this is not a series that's easy to binge incomplete. There's an "acceleration" factor, and when you reach the end of what's available, without reaching the "goal", it's definitely a "hard stop".

You'd probably enjoy Nagatoro, and you'd definitely see how my metaphor
applies to the two. I highly recommend it... Though... Lol... You might want to wait a chapter or two... jk, the "progress" is expressed differently, so you don't get the whiplash effect from cliffhangers or lulls.

I guess that's really the essence of it... You said "edging", that's really what's happening, chapters of literally existing in a cliffhanger state, for the readers, nevermind the characters. But I'm fond of them, so I just smile and let them awkwardly squirm for my amusement.
 
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O, me, what eyes hath Love put in my head,
Which have no correspondence with true sight!
Or, if they have, where is my judgement fled,
That censures falsely what they see aright?
If that be fair whereon my false eyes dote,
What means the world to say it is not so?
Bill Shakespeare proving that human nature really doesn't change much over the centuries. :win:
 

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