Kanojo ni Uwaki Sareteita Ore ga, Koakuma na Kouhai ni Natsukareteimasu - Ch. 29

[ysil69]

Happy the MC didn't forgive her "if was just holding hands" shit. As soon as you're attaching yourself emotionally to someone else, you're cheating. Whether that's going on a date, or holding hands.

 

[ramdanrivanto]

Cheating is cheating, only a dumb person who still listen the explanation. That is why i hate relationship in this era, woman has so much excuse for what they did. This reina is the most red flag woman that totally i should avoid and for the love of the god never meet this kind of person again for the rest of my life.

 

[Alzu]

The MC is really a prick for not adamantly ending things with his ex he keeps hanging to a false thread of hope while she leads him by the nose what a pathetic excuse of a man

I don't see how you see this as the MC giving his Ex-GF false hope. Bro is getting gaslight by other people who insist that Reina didn't cheat, after a while bro just said fuck it and gives her a chance to explain, only to for the dumb bitch to pretty much admit she cheated. Waste of his time.

 

[ruyum]

Thanks for the translations !!!!

 

[lsThisGoodEnough]

"What do you-"
"Maybe that something is our ended relationship"
Golly gee whiz, it sure is too bad Yuuta was so caught up in leaving the conversation he was having with Reina to continue the conversation he was having with Reina

 

[fumu]

well, what can I say, thanks for the translations, gonna wait for another months. one thing for sure, natsuki are the most ego villain ever.

 

[Qwertt]

I only see her trying to gaslight Mayu and nothing else.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

What I get is that she hadn't cheated YET?

Seriously what was she even trying to say? WHY was she holding hands and being all intimate with that guy?

 

[AkodoRyu]

What Reina's logic fails to account for is that at the bottom of "why cheating is bad for the relationship" is not the act per se - it's the breach of trust. If you can't trust the other person, how can you be in a relationship with them? So MC still held a sliver of hope that he overreacted because of some misunderstanding, and she just blatantly admitted that no - in fact - I was purposefully holding hands with another man, on our anniversary, next to your house. The 1-2-3 combo of betrayal and two doses of disrespect. At this point, it doesn't matter if you label it as cheating or not.

 

[Nekotofu]

At least everything clear on Reina part.
She's cheating, time to move on.

 

[Eggsburst]

I feel like holding hands is only taboo because I'm touch starved. Kissing and sex are where I'd say cheating exists for me. Hugging can be platonic or not, but I also feel like hand holding can be too. Walking hand in hand or arm in arm can be done with friends can it not? If not, perhaps I need to rethink my own boundaries.

 

[Eggsburst]

I feel like holding hands is only taboo because I'm touch starved. Kissing and sex are where I'd say cheating exists for me. Hugging can be platonic or not, but I also feel like hand holding can be too. Walking hand in hand or arm in arm can be done with friends can it not? If not, perhaps I need to rethink my own boundaries.

Upon the re-read to refresh myself since I had partially forgotten what was happening plot wise, yeah - there was definitely a breach of trust there, and intentional mind games. Just say what you mean and communicate clearly. If you feel jealous or insecure, express it. Have a conversation, decide if it's a dealbreaker or not, then move forward. MC and Ayaka are very close, so I can understand some hang ups, but nothing so big it couldn't be worked out through talking...

But then I remember a piece of advice for dealing with women in a disagreement, and people in general honestly: it's not entirely about logic, it's about empathy first and foremost.

 

[SlowSimDriver44]

Ah Reina, what are you talking about? Isn't it cheating to intertwine hands with a stranger and stick to him? The problem is that he ultimately didn't make her happy (reference to the chapter where they met and got together) because he's Ayaka's best friend. Reina, being insecure, got her brains fried by Natsuki and the latter took the right cue to destroy her friend's relationship and indirectly ‘take revenge’ on Ayaka for something that happened between them. It sounds like convoluted reasoning, but very plausible when it comes to women.

This, gentlemen of the chat, is my interpretation. English is not my language and I may have missed some nuances.

 

[GoufTroop]

Why do mangadex users always think it's the result of bad writing when a character acts in a not totally logical way? Have they never met another human?

 

[GoufTroop]

It's really annoying how Reina keeps changing the subject to other people to avoid talking about her own failures. But go on, exey, spill the beans.

That repeated behavior is one of biggest warning signs that she is a manipulative person with a hefty ego. When directly confronted about her mistakes, she always steers the conversation to be pointed back at the other person.

 

[Derksy]

It's Ayaka. Her problem is 100% Ayaka.
Bet she's gonna say something along the lines of "he seems happier with her, he spends more time with her" and finish with "he doesn't realise his own feelings".

 

[Beroroneko]

What a load of bollocks. Well played to the author for making me feel annoyed, though.

 

[shyevsa]

OOoohhh that just so infuriating...
the blood rust just so damn real when she said there is no misunderstanding.
been there before, the pain are just too real even after years pass.

tho, I bet its start with his relationship with Ayaka.

 

[darkliondp]

To some people blaming Ayaka, are we reading the same story?
-Ayaka never hogged on Yuta when he factually started dating another girl and since highschool they had this pact of not becoming romantic because of the shit that just had happened to them. Ayaka made an effort to fix her self admitedly faulty personality (which is most likely the spark of whatever clash she has with the kouhai) and by her college days, she is mostly friendly with people, 100% sociable and approachable and has a healthy bromance with Yuta. She offered advice when solicited and even distanced herself from him enough to the point of telling him that he should be having his own input about how he interacts with his girlfriend in the first place. It is ONLY after this romantical crisis her pal had and after seeing him so crushed that she considered to seriously approach him in a romantic way on her own pace. And even then when they were in solitude she was reflecting the possibility of having been the cause of this outcome. Both the MC and her only found weird right then about this being a possible scenario because they had meet at best 2 times before.

-Reina aside, the glasses girl is the real source of conflict. Even the MC has noticed how weird it is that she known too much about him or his relationships with other people. It's clear even before they meet physically in the mixer that she has been observing him and making up her own conclusions. Give it a reread and you will notice how creepy it is the way she instantly appraches to click with him.

-But on the topic on cheating, they made a lot of emphasis on how Reina behaves around people and around Yuta and the real significance of the handholding to try to play down what she did regardless of the circumstances or her insecurities. She got to the point of doing with someone else what she herself stablished as special with the MC. It doesn't matter if she isn't engaging in other acts of the carnal nature or not. Matter of the fact, and how the MC presented it, you can imagine anything else, because trust (a central topic on this story) was already breached.

-The MC himself has been 100% transparent about everything regarding this conflict, even trusting Reina enough to tell her that Ayaka is a very important and significant friend to him and that she must meet his girlfriend no matter what because he thinks she is just as important. He laid the ground for that friendship to happen, there is 0 room for doubting or blame shifting. At the end of the day this is pure sophism to try and save face for self satisfaction. The MC could just tell Reina that she isn't a cheater and nothing would change regarding his decision. Why should he bend to someone that breached trust?

edit: aforgot to mention that every single time that Natsuki or Reina have appeared in panels I've felt emotionally distressed, at the very least this manga does the job of convery the MC's mental state very well at least for me.

 

[JashwanthGeass]

NOOOOOO this is the worst cliffhanger of this manga as of now and also fuck Reina. She is just dragging this shit so long.