Kanojo ni Uwaki Sareteita Ore ga, Koakuma na Kouhai ni Natsukareteimasu - Ch. 29

[18thMoon]

one thing I want to point out (since I was a bit peeved with the past chapter comments), as much as intent matters, the fact that you're oblivious or it's unintentional doesn't excuse what you do in a relationship, getting drunk then having an affair with a rando doesn't suddenly stop becoming an affair because it was unintentional or you weren't in control, a lot of commenters like pointing the fact that she wanted him to be jealous and that intent alone is enough to make it wrong but if you were in a relationship, you should realize that what yuuta did was pretty fucking taboo, we live in a society joker and social cues are pretty much mandatory as much as you hate to say it, some things are "common sense" without words

for example:
if you had a girlfriend and a non relative best friend that's a girl and you consistently spend time with this girl while you would sometimes cancel on your own girlfriend, what do you think your girlfriend would feel?

now let's reverse it, your girlfriend has a non relative best friend that's a guy, she spends a lot of time with this guy while cancelling plans with you from time to time, how would you feel?

see that's the pain in the ass in this case, some of you would say you'd confront your girlfriend, I'm willing to bet that more than half of you would confront her in an emotional mess/disarray that you might fling some hurtful words that will inevitably ruin your relationship

now if you take all that into context, you start to see the issue, it isn't just one side, it's both sides being dumb as fuck, the girl, afraid that she might offend MC (let's be honest, no one likes to get accused of something they didn't do) proceeded to let it build up and MC being a fucking dense dumbshit proceeded to not understand the issues it poses when you're close with a person from the opposite gender, it's fucking simple, they're both stupid as fuck and should not be in relationships, the MC is a whiny dense motherfucker who should not end up with any of the girls unless he grows tf up

Also to add, I like the story's take on interpersonal relationship, how complicated it is, how outside perspectives could basically change dynamics and how context matters a lot

Look, I don’t know what you were trying to accomplish with that explanation, but you’re wrong. If Reina-san had that big of an issue with Yuuta’s friendship with Ayaka—if she was really worried about how close they were or how much time they spent together—then that’s something she should’ve brought up directly to him. And if she couldn’t handle it, she should’ve ended the relationship.

But instead, she chose to have an emotional affair with a pageant manager—near Yuuta’s house, holding his hand, acting all romantic and intimate. That’s cheating. No matter how you try to frame it, she did that because of her own insecurities. So blaming the MC for her internal issues makes absolutely no sense. You can’t fix someone’s emotional insecurities for them. What you can do is address the situation like an adult.

Something like: “Hey, I feel like you’re spending a lot of time with your best friend. Is there something going on between you two?”
And if Yuuta told her, “No, I don’t have feelings for her like that,” just like he told Mayu, then maybe he could’ve realized, “Okay, I’m making Reina feel insecure. Maybe I should take a step back.” But Reina never said anything. Her silence and decision to emotionally connect with someone else instead? That’s a major red flag on her part.

Trying to blame the MC for something he didn’t even know about is nonsense. The story clearly shows Yuuta cared deeply for Reina. He loved spending time with her, enjoyed being around her, and he never wanted the relationship to end like that. But she made her choice—to get emotionally close with someone else. Yuuta saw it with his own eyes and ended the relationship. Rightfully so. He’s not trying to hear excuses about why she messed up.

And now you’re trying to say the MC’s weak? For what? For still having feelings for his ex, Reina—the one who cheated on him? For trying to get closer to her even after the breakup? She’s the one who had the insecurities. She’s the one who cheated. And despite all that, he was still trying to get closer. And you’re trying to blame the MC for having a best friend? Come on now, you can’t be serious. You’re just flat-out wrong.

 

[titundo]

Look, I don’t know what you were trying to accomplish with that explanation, but you’re wrong. If Reina-san had that big of an issue with Yuuta’s friendship with Ayaka—if she was really worried about how close they were or how much time they spent together—then that’s something she should’ve brought up directly to him. And if she couldn’t handle it, she should’ve ended the relationship.

But instead, she chose to have an emotional affair with a pageant manager—near Yuuta’s house, holding his hand, acting all romantic and intimate. That’s cheating. No matter how you try to frame it, she did that because of her own insecurities. So blaming the MC for her internal issues makes absolutely no sense. You can’t fix someone’s emotional insecurities for them. What you can do is address the situation like an adult.

Something like: “Hey, I feel like you’re spending a lot of time with your best friend. Is there something going on between you two?”
And if Yuuta told her, “No, I don’t have feelings for her like that,” just like he told Mayu, then maybe he could’ve realized, “Okay, I’m making Reina feel insecure. Maybe I should take a step back.” But Reina never said anything. Her silence and decision to emotionally connect with someone else instead? That’s a major red flag on her part.

Trying to blame the MC for something he didn’t even know about is nonsense. The story clearly shows Yuuta cared deeply for Reina. He loved spending time with her, enjoyed being around her, and he never wanted the relationship to end like that. But she made her choice—to get emotionally close with someone else. Yuuta saw it with his own eyes and ended the relationship. Rightfully so. He’s not trying to hear excuses about why she messed up.

And now you’re trying to say the MC’s weak? For what? For still having feelings for his ex, Reina—the one who cheated on him? For trying to get closer to her even after the breakup? She’s the one who had the insecurities. She’s the one who cheated. And despite all that, he was still trying to get closer. And you’re trying to blame the MC for having a best friend? Come on now, you can’t be serious. You’re just flat-out wrong.

Yeah, my two cents on this is the difference between what's inappropriate in a relationship and what's unacceptable. IMO, Yuuta's friendship with Ayaka would be inappropriate at worst and he may need someone to have a serious conversation with him about it, with that someone best being Reina herself.

I mean, I get it, if my significant other was getting too chummy with someone of the opposite sex, I would get upset. Yet, what I would never do is to cross the line to slide into what I (and seemingly many other) would view as unacceptable and trying to split hairs as to what is or is not cheating doesn't quite work for me, honestly speaking. Yuuta gets a "dude...", Reina gets a "WTF!".

 

[Barro27]

My prognosis :

"Erm i didn't cheat i just wanted him to understand how his relation with the black haired babe made me feel"

 

[GoufTroop]

one thing I want to point out (since I was a bit peeved with the past chapter comments), as much as intent matters, the fact that you're oblivious or it's unintentional doesn't excuse what you do in a relationship, getting drunk then having an affair with a rando doesn't suddenly stop becoming an affair because it was unintentional or you weren't in control, a lot of commenters like pointing the fact that she wanted him to be jealous and that intent alone is enough to make it wrong but if you were in a relationship, you should realize that what yuuta did was pretty fucking taboo, we live in a society joker and social cues are pretty much mandatory as much as you hate to say it, some things are "common sense" without words

for example:
if you had a girlfriend and a non relative best friend that's a girl and you consistently spend time with this girl while you would sometimes cancel on your own girlfriend, what do you think your girlfriend would feel?

now let's reverse it, your girlfriend has a non relative best friend that's a guy, she spends a lot of time with this guy while cancelling plans with you from time to time, how would you feel?

see that's the pain in the ass in this case, some of you would say you'd confront your girlfriend, I'm willing to bet that more than half of you would confront her in an emotional mess/disarray that you might fling some hurtful words that will inevitably ruin your relationship

now if you take all that into context, you start to see the issue, it isn't just one side, it's both sides being dumb as fuck, the girl, afraid that she might offend MC (let's be honest, no one likes to get accused of something they didn't do) proceeded to let it build up and MC being a fucking dense dumbshit proceeded to not understand the issues it poses when you're close with a person from the opposite gender, it's fucking simple, they're both stupid as fuck and should not be in relationships, the MC is a whiny dense motherfucker who should not end up with any of the girls unless he grows tf up

Also to add, I like the story's take on interpersonal relationship, how complicated it is, how outside perspectives could basically change dynamics and how context matters a lot

I mean, both me and my partner are bi. Does that mean neither of us can have any friends lest the other one get jealous, of course not. We are both adults that trust each other. While the MC is not totally without fault, it was Reina's decision to not just sit down and talk about it. The moment she accepted going on that date with someone else, even she seems to know that she was in the wrong, at least sub consciously, she nosedived the relationship into the ground. The fact that she is trying to get back with him feels more like she's trying to absolve herself.

 

[AaAaAa134]

I mean, both me and my partner are bi. Does that mean neither of us can have any friends lest the other one get jealous, of course not. We are both adults that trust each other. While the MC is not totally without fault, it was Reina's decision to not just sit down and talk about it. The moment she accepted going on that date with someone else, even she seems to know that she was in the wrong, at least sub consciously, she nosedived the relationship into the ground. The fact that she is trying to get back with him feels more like she's trying to absolve herself.

yeah but these people aren't you, everyone is different, like I said both of them are at fault but jealousy is a pretty emotional and irrational reaction and lo and behold, humans are emotional and irrationals, of course we think it's petty and wrong but to her it's just because in her head "he did it first and I wasn't mad at him, he should allow this one thing"

 

[AaAaAa134]

Look, I don’t know what you were trying to accomplish with that explanation, but you’re wrong. If Reina-san had that big of an issue with Yuuta’s friendship with Ayaka—if she was really worried about how close they were or how much time they spent together—then that’s something she should’ve brought up directly to him. And if she couldn’t handle it, she should’ve ended the relationship.

I wanted to set it straight that both are fucking stupid and irrational, you act like high schoolers are the most logical people ever "she should've just talked to him about it", yeah and how do you think one person would get to this thought process without any maturity or rationality, do you think humans are pure logic and rationality? why do you think high school dramas are a thing? why do you think kids are so easily malleable by adults?

But instead, she chose to have an emotional affair with a pageant manager—near Yuuta’s house, holding his hand, acting all romantic and intimate. That’s cheating. No matter how you try to frame it, she did that because of her own insecurities. So blaming the MC for her internal issues makes absolutely no sense. You can’t fix someone’s emotional insecurities for them. What you can do is address the situation like an adult.

Something like: “Hey, I feel like you’re spending a lot of time with your best friend. Is there something going on between you two?”
And if Yuuta told her, “No, I don’t have feelings for her like that,” just like he told Mayu, then maybe he could’ve realized, “Okay, I’m making Reina feel insecure. Maybe I should take a step back.” But Reina never said anything. Her silence and decision to emotionally connect with someone else instead? That’s a major red flag on her part.

Trying to blame the MC for something he didn’t even know about is nonsense. The story clearly shows Yuuta cared deeply for Reina. He loved spending time with her, enjoyed being around her, and he never wanted the relationship to end like that. But she made her choice—to get emotionally close with someone else. Yuuta saw it with his own eyes and ended the relationship. Rightfully so. He’s not trying to hear excuses about why she messed up.

And now you’re trying to say the MC’s weak? For what? For still having feelings for his ex, Reina—the one who cheated on him? For trying to get closer to her even after the breakup? She’s the one who had the insecurities. She’s the one who cheated. And despite all that, he was still trying to get closer. And you’re trying to blame the MC for having a best friend? Come on now, you can’t be serious. You’re just flat-out wrong.

first off, check your reading comprehension on my comment, second, I never called MC weak, I called them both retarded teenagers, and I'm not fucking wrong, why do you think high school dramas exist? I'm saying that they're both at fault and people in the comments are sometimes too retarded to not understand that inside insights and outside views vastly change the context of things, I mean how many fucking times do you hear the rumor "oh they're probably dating" just because a guy and a girl are good friends? or how inside jokes are misconscrewed? and lastly, ESPECIALLY IN JAPAN, why do you think there's so many stories of how rumors can break people? that girl probably heard/saw her boyfriend having such skinship with a friend that she doesn't is a friend, do you think a teenagers first thought is to go talk about it? no, they think about how to get back, literally that's the first thing most kids think, how to get even because THEY'RE FUCKING KIDS

legit didn't even try to shift all the blame to the MC, I said that they're both fucking retarded but they're kids so it's expected and that people need to understand that the whole thing isn't just because of the girl and that the MC as unintentional as it is also had a hand in it

added to that, I hate the MC, not because of the cheating debacle part but because of how backwards his thought process is with the junior, If you read the comment I never once called him weak because of what happened with him nor did I shift the blame, I just hate how he interacts with the junior in such a spineless way

 

[18thMoon]

I wanted to set it straight that both are fucking stupid and irrational, you act like high schoolers are the most logical people ever "she should've just talked to him about it", yeah and how do you think one person would get to this thought process without any maturity or rationality, do you think humans are pure logic and rationality? why do you think high school dramas are a thing? why do you think kids are so easily malleable by adults?

Maybe it’s because Yuuta and Reina are in college, not high school. When the series first began, Yuuta had just broken up with Reina. How do we know they’re already in college? Because Mayu is a freshman, and she refers to Yuuta as her senpai. That also tells us Yuuta and Reina started dating when they were freshmen in college.

Now, it's pretty asinine to assume that just because a couple is young, they’re not mature enough to have a conversation about their feelings or what’s making them uncomfortable. Reina chose to cheat. She felt uneasy about Yuuta’s friendship with Ayaka—fine—but instead of talking to him about it, she went and cheated. And somehow Yuuta is partly to blame because she didn’t communicate? That logic is insane.

She could’ve said something. She could’ve opened up. But no—her solution was, “Let me go cheat,” and people are seriously trying to say that’s Yuuta’s fault? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read. How do you blame the main character for getting cheated on? Absolutely fucking stupid.

first off, check your reading comprehension on my comment, second, I never called MC weak, I called them both retarded teenagers, and I'm not fucking wrong, why do you think high school dramas exist? I'm saying that they're both at fault and people in the comments are sometimes too retarded to not understand that inside insights and outside views vastly change the context of things, I mean how many fucking times do you hear the rumor "oh they're probably dating" just because a guy and a girl are good friends? or how inside jokes are misconscrewed?

The only person with terrible reading comprehension is you, because this is the second time you’ve referred to them as high schoolers and teenagers when they’re clearly adults in college. So what if people around Yuuta and Ayaka speculated they were dating? For one, Reina and Yuuta didn’t even go to the same college. They weren’t in the same spaces. So even if those rumors existed, that’s still a conversation that should’ve happened between Yuuta and Reina.

Look at how Mayu—who is younger than both Yuuta and Reina—handled it in this chapter. She said, “Hey, I feel a little uncomfortable about your relationship with Ayaka. Are you two really just friends? Do you have romantic feelings for her?” And what did Yuuta say? “I care about her deeply, but we’re just friends. Nothing more.” Simple. Honest. Mature.

So don’t give me that dumbass argument about how young adults or teenagers can’t talk about their feelings. Mayu did it. Reina could’ve done it. But she didn’t. She chose to cheat instead. And you're seriously defending that by blaming Yuuta? That’s insane.

You must be speaking from personal pain, because the logic you’re using is completely asinine. Just because someone’s young doesn’t mean they’re incapable of having a mature conversation—especially when they’re in college. Hell, even high schoolers talk about their feelings all the time because they’re emotional as hell.

And let’s not forget, the manga itself shows Reina trying to talk to Yuuta multiple times about what happened—so much that her best friend Natsuki has stepped in, trying to convince him to talk to her. So based on the manga itself, your take is completely off. You’re just flat-out wrong.

 

[AaAaAa134]

Maybe it’s because Yuuta and Reina are in college, not high school. When the series first began, Yuuta had just broken up with Reina. How do we know they’re already in college? Because Mayu is a freshman, and she refers to Yuuta as her senpai. That also tells us Yuuta and Reina started dating when they were freshmen in college.

Now, it's pretty asinine to assume that just because a couple is young, they’re not mature enough to have a conversation about their feelings or what’s making them uncomfortable. Reina chose to cheat. She felt uneasy about Yuuta’s friendship with Ayaka—fine—but instead of talking to him about it, she went and cheated. And somehow Yuuta is partly to blame because she didn’t communicate? That logic is insane.

She could’ve said something. She could’ve opened up. But no—her solution was, “Let me go cheat,” and people are seriously trying to say that’s Yuuta’s fault? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read. How do you blame the main character for getting cheated on? Absolutely fucking stupid.


The only person with terrible reading comprehension is you, because this is the second time you’ve referred to them as high schoolers and teenagers when they’re clearly adults in college. So what if people around Yuuta and Ayaka speculated they were dating? For one, Reina and Yuuta didn’t even go to the same college. They weren’t in the same spaces. So even if those rumors existed, that’s still a conversation that should’ve happened between Yuuta and Reina.

Look at how Mayu—who is younger than both Yuuta and Reina—handled it in this chapter. She said, “Hey, I feel a little uncomfortable about your relationship with Ayaka. Are you two really just friends? Do you have romantic feelings for her?” And what did Yuuta say? “I care about her deeply, but we’re just friends. Nothing more.” Simple. Honest. Mature.

So don’t give me that dumbass argument about how young adults or teenagers can’t talk about their feelings. Mayu did it. Reina could’ve done it. But she didn’t. She chose to cheat instead. And you're seriously defending that by blaming Yuuta? That’s insane.

You must be speaking from personal pain, because the logic you’re using is completely asinine. Just because someone’s young doesn’t mean they’re incapable of having a mature conversation—especially when they’re in college. Hell, even high schoolers talk about their feelings all the time because they’re emotional as hell.

And let’s not forget, the manga itself shows Reina trying to talk to Yuuta multiple times about what happened—so much that her best friend Natsuki has stepped in, trying to convince him to talk to her. So based on the manga itself, your take is completely off. You’re just flat-out wrong.

brother the breakup happened DURING FUCKING HIGHSCHOOL, the flashback WAS DURING HIGHSCHOOL, and again you did not read, I did not put all the blame on the MC with the CURRENT TIMELINE, I called back to their HIGH SCHOOL BREAKUP DAYS, and also you're just plain wrong and dumb as fuck if you think I said ALL TEENAGERS ARE IRRATIONAL AND EMOTIONAL, I said, as to reiterate is that THEY BROKE UP DURING TEENAGE DAYS DURING THE TIME WHEN THEY'RE MOST LIKELY TO BE IRRATIONAL AND EMOTIONAL (which is fucking true) NOT THAT THEY CAN'T have a mature conversation but it's LIKELY THAT THEY'RE STUPID TEENAGERS, and why the fuck do you keep bringing up what's happening in the current story, I never ONCE said I blame him for the current happenstance but the stupid misunderstanding during their high school breakup, or do you need the screenshots of previous chapters with their HIGH SCHOOL UNIFORM

 

[18thMoon]

brother the breakup happened DURING FUCKING HIGHSCHOOL, the flashback WAS DURING HIGHSCHOOL, and again you did not read, I did not put all the blame on the MC with the CURRENT TIMELINE, I called back to their HIGH SCHOOL BREAKUP DAYS, and also you're just plain wrong and dumb as fuck if you think I said ALL TEENAGERS ARE IRRATIONAL AND EMOTIONAL, I said, as to reiterate is that THEY BROKE UP DURING TEENAGE DAYS DURING THE TIME WHEN THEY'RE MOST LIKELY TO BE IRRATIONAL AND EMOTIONAL (which is fucking true) NOT THAT THEY CAN'T have a mature conversation but it's LIKELY THAT THEY'RE STUPID TEENAGERS, and why the fuck do you keep bringing up what's happening in the current story, I never ONCE said I blame him for the current happenstance but the stupid misunderstanding during their high school breakup, or do you need the screenshots of previous chapters with their HIGH SCHOOL UNIFORM

WRONG AGAIN 😭 In Chapter 25, Yuuta doesn't even meet Reina until he visits her all-girls college campus fair with his friend Toudou. During that same chapter, it's revealed that they're both first-year college students, which clearly proves they were never in high school. They even start dating shortly after that—in the same chapter, no less. So once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. And the irony? You're trying to lecture others about reading comprehension when you couldn't even comprehend that they were in college, not high school. Absolute dumbass. You fucking buffoon.

Again, the series picks up shortly after their breakup. Yuuta is alone on Christmas because he had just gotten out of a relationship—he had just broken up with Reina after believing she cheated on him.

They weren’t in high school. They were in college. That’s why I said when he meets Mayu, she refers to him as her senpai—because she’s now a first-year college student, while he’s already in his second year. I really don’t understand why you can’t seem to wrap your brain around the fact that these characters aren’t teenagers—they’re adults.

And regardless, blaming the MC—even partially—makes absolutely no sense. What exactly are you blaming him for? Getting cheated on?

At the end of the day, it was Reina who failed to communicate the issues she was dealing with. It was Reina who chose to cheat instead of being honest about her feelings—whether it was discomfort with his friendship with Ayaka or something else. If the relationship was too much for her, she could’ve just ended it. But she didn’t.

So yeah, trying to shift any of the blame onto Yuuta, even while claiming to "blame both," is ridiculous—just like your argument that they were teenagers when they broke up, when the manga clearly shows they were adults.

If you don’t know what the fuck you’re reading, maybe go back and re-read the chapters—so you don’t look this stupid in a conversation.


side note:
maybe you should take some time to learn grammar and punctuation. That way, you won’t end up writing a giant-ass paragraph that’s basically one long sentence with no periods. Or worse—just a wall of text divided only by commas. That makes no damn sense. Like, do you seriously not know where one sentence ends and the next begins?

 

[Filype]

I wasnt cheating, I was ABOUT to start cheating, big difference.
Smh cheaters all the same

one spoiler from the novel? that is the thing, she pondered doing it, before actualy talking to him about her doubts over his childhood friend, next chapter will be a turning point, pending how the author will write it.

 

[titundo]

Now, it's pretty asinine to assume that just because a couple is young, they’re not mature enough to have a conversation about their feelings or what’s making them uncomfortable. Reina chose to cheat. She felt uneasy about Yuuta’s friendship with Ayaka—fine—but instead of talking to him about it, she went and cheated. And somehow Yuuta is partly to blame because she didn’t communicate? That logic is insane.

She could’ve said something. She could’ve opened up. But no—her solution was, “Let me go cheat,” and people are seriously trying to say that’s Yuuta’s fault? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read. How do you blame the main character for getting cheated on? Absolutely fucking stupid.

Yeah, they may be young, but that's not supposed to mean they're brain-dead! Even if they were teenage high schoolers, being unable to talk to your own significant other is a problem, LOL.

 

[LordScat]

What's the point of this manga man...

 

[Freestyle]

Its the usual logic, 'I didnt cheat, my heart still belonged to him, I just wanted to make him jealous'
I dropped tihs manga because it was screwing over Ayaka so badly for literally no reason after writing her up as the perfect partner for the MC, came back for the breakup shit and still disappointing, she has no logic basically lol