Kekkaishi e no Tensei - Vol. 3 Ch. 14
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it's both confusing and stupidly simple. It's one of those setups in isekai where anyone who is questioning the monarchy is either naive or malicious/manipulative/power hungry. Problem is, they make one single point that's the foundation of their stance, that people should be able to get into positions and work according to their ability and not birthright, and that one point is so obviously true that, when they drop tropey hints that they're all wrong, it feels confusing.
So, characters say "ability should matter more than bloodline in our government", but it's an isekai and the mc didn't say it so they are bad because of some bizarre interpretation of GLORIOUS NIPON MORALITY the author has which bars the natives from organically advancing as a society by challenging those in power and questioning if they have that right and ignoring violence nobles deliver upon common people and disadvantaged groups so that the mc never has to witness violence being returned to the powerful. The author will then congratulate themselves on their wisdom and civility before they proceed to jack off to a moe Oda Nobunaga. (That's not fair, I'd jack it to Lightning from FF13 even though she disgusts me as a character. Snow was honestly one of the 3 smartest characters in that game along with the cowardly black stereotype and the yuri cloud cluckcloolander. Not saying much really.)
TL;DR
It's isekai shit where the author and mc are going to talk down about a position most everyone agrees with to make the mc seem smart but their argument will fall apart with the slightest scrutiny and you are probably confused because you're watching this all piece together and can feel that it's just out of sync already.
it's both confusing and stupidly simple. It's one of those setups in isekai where anyone who is questioning the monarchy is either naive or malicious/manipulative/power hungry. Problem is, they make one single point that's the foundation of their stance, that people should be able to get into positions and work according to their ability and not birthright, and that one point is so obviously true that, when they drop tropey hints that they're all wrong, it feels confusing.
So, characters say "ability should matter more than bloodline in our government", but it's an isekai and the mc didn't say it so they are bad because of some bizarre interpretation of GLORIOUS NIPON MORALITY the author has which bars the natives from organically advancing as a society by challenging those in power and questioning if they have that right and ignoring violence nobles deliver upon common people and disadvantaged groups so that the mc never has to witness violence being returned to the powerful. The author will then congratulate themselves on their wisdom and civility before they proceed to jack off to a moe Oda Nobunaga. (That's not fair, I'd jack it to Lightning from FF13 even though she disgusts me as a character. Snow was honestly one of the 3 smartest characters in that game along with the cowardly black stereotype and the yuri cloud cluckcloolander. Not saying much really.)
TL;DR
It's isekai shit where the author and mc are going to talk down about a position most everyone agrees with to make the mc seem smart but their argument will fall apart with the slightest scrutiny and you are probably confused because you're watching this all piece together and can feel that it's just out of sync already.
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When your all book and no street.
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Thanks for the update, please continue translating this manga really love it. Thank you translators can't wait for the next update.
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she's being taken advantage of 100%, shooter is abusing his position and the princess' naivety to overthrow the royal family, by putting them against the commoners and the other nobles
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Why is he opening a shop, wasn't he supposed to be a guard?
@yuzuyuzu @panch_magic Can you guys explain how exactly she's being book smart but not street smart here? I haven't paying that much attention to this manga, but like none of the actions in this chapter seem that dumb to me.
@Meridis I feel like this is the answer. Author is portraying an obviously good claim (valuing competency over rank) as bad and most everybody in the comments ironically displays their naivety by taking the author's words at face value and calling the characters naive for believing said good claim. Again, though, I haven't been following along much (since it has good art but very poor writing), so maybe I'm missing some context.
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The princess studies hard but ironically she is still being deceived by people lol
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she's only studying from books and texts in a class with her tutor, which is something i define as book smart, because it is realistically not applicable in real life. how many theories in books (maths physics, or even history, political issues, government system) have we learnt at school and used irl? I dont mean to brag, but if it's only to the extent of answering questions on exam regarding things i've studied and memorised, i can do it well.
But im very dumb "street"- wise. no matter how perfect i know about science, politics and government, theories will stay as theories, history as history. the only way to really master the subject is to directly involve myself in the scene. for example, a "stupid" person academically, would have more insight and wisdom in dealing with REAL world problems, not just theories that happen in book. Me, for instance, my mind immediately goes blank during times like that. have you ever heard of the saying A grade student will work under C grade students?
i think this is quite similar to her, because she doesnt truly "understand" and master the materials she've learnt. and i dont blame her for that, it's not her fault.
she might know the political trends and such, but she may not realise and really know what actions to take to influence the trend, instead, only following the theories she learnt at class, which most probably will not work all the time. the problem would be her lacking the wisdom and insight to know what wise action to take, instead of "logical" ones, cos the reality is even stranger than fiction.
she's only studying from books and texts in a class with her tutor, which is something i define as book smart, because it is realistically not applicable in real life. how many theories in books (maths physics, or even history, political issues, government system) have we learnt at school and used irl? I dont mean to brag, but if it's only to the extent of answering questions on exam regarding things i've studied and memorised, i can do it well.
But im very dumb "street"- wise. no matter how perfect i know about science, politics and government, theories will stay as theories, history as history. the only way to really master the subject is to directly involve myself in the scene. for example, a "stupid" person academically, would have more insight and wisdom in dealing with REAL world problems, not just theories that happen in book. Me, for instance, my mind immediately goes blank during times like that. have you ever heard of the saying A grade student will work under C grade students?
i think this is quite similar to her, because she doesnt truly "understand" and master the materials she've learnt. and i dont blame her for that, it's not her fault.
she might know the political trends and such, but she may not realise and really know what actions to take to influence the trend, instead, only following the theories she learnt at class, which most probably will not work all the time. the problem would be her lacking the wisdom and insight to know what wise action to take, instead of "logical" ones, cos the reality is even stranger than fiction.
@yuzuyuzu The platitudes about education not mattering are wrong more often than not, but I'm not here to argue about which type of "smarts" is important. All you did was explain the terms to me, lol. I'm not asking for the definition, just asking what actions of hers were dumb. What did she do that showed a lack of street smarts?
