Kingdom - Ch. 800 - The Three Pillars

[MangaDex]

 

[xyzzy]

Family register… is this a roundabout way for Shin and Kyou Kai to get legally married?

 

[Tds-PdV]

Makes me wonder how exaggerated the record (number of dead soldiers) actually is or if the king’s power base was really that strong.

To make that much losses, both in people and resources and yet can and decided to still persist to continue waging war is quite crazy. How high must the tax be and how nuts must the conscription be to sustain all this (regardless whether the number of losses is exaggerated or not).

In this series he is portrayed as Shin’s buddy and in a very positive light, but that really can’t wipe the fact that Sei is a war lunatic despot simply by looking at his persistence to wage war for “unification” at all costs (which is probably how it is in actual history).

 

[Zobralolz]

Having registers would probably help in logistical maintenance for the armies and all that, though I wonder what the other two pillars will be.

 

[Blazer168]

Having registers would probably help in logistical maintenance for the armies and all that, though I wonder what the other two pillars will be.

Standardizing the military and professional soldiers? Like the marian reforms of Rome. Assuming they didn't already do this.

 

[viewers101]

Makes me wonder how exaggerated the record (number of dead soldiers) actually is or if the king’s power base was really that strong.

To make that much losses, both in people and resources and yet can and decided to still persist to continue waging war is quite crazy. How high must the tax be and how nuts must the conscription be to sustain all this (regardless whether the number of losses is exaggerated or not).

In this series he is portrayed as Shin’s buddy and in a very positive light, but that really can’t wipe the fact that Sei is a war lunatic despot simply by looking at his persistence to wage war for “unification” at all costs (which is probably how it is in actual history).

It's China, those numbers crop up once every two hundred years or so. Even in Europe which was like 1/10th the size keeps having tens of thousands of death per big war.

 

[Liar]

Not a bad idea, to be honest.

Strategy and tactics might win battles, but logistics is what wins wars.

 

[HDMI1]

And now the draft has been enacted, the government will know exactly how many war-capable men are available throughout the entire country.

 

[yes_1_am]

I love this Scan and its quality is sensational, but 3 weeks after the chapter was released it's pretty sad.

 

[kazaddum]

And now the draft has been enacted, the government will know exactly how many war-capable men are available throughout the entire country.

Exactly, that way it can raise armies in such a way that no region gets depleted of manpower. Thus negating the economic burdens of large casualties for each region.

Qin becomes an army with a state, so to say.

 

[nokosama]

My boy's name is Fuukyou

 

[Tds-PdV]

It's China, those numbers crop up once every two hundred years or so. Even in Europe which was like 1/10th the size keeps having tens of thousands of death per big war.

What I’m referring to is a military loss typically doesn’t mean you lose all the soldiers, usually 30-50% (even ~20%) is already considered a rout. In this chapter they implied they lost 300,000 men and in the previous chapter the losing side always seem to lost almost the full number of their men. This is exacerbated by the fact that Qin has been waging consecutive wars and would have been constantly losing able-bodied man.

So, IMO, the reality is that the loss is exaggerated firstly by the winner to pad their accomplishments and second, more generally because they don’t have proper record of their people and they may just count those MIA or fleeing during a rout as simply killed.

 

[Railander]

social credit v0.1

 

[Bogdan6222]

What is a family registry and what would accomplish in this situation?

 

[Manu_2006]

So they really wanted to unify China without a fucking draft before!?? I swear bro if u wanna go to war for more than 15 years you must enlist every man in your kingdom, i now realise how stupid sei is this arc

 

[Konomasa]

Just wait till you get to chapter 803

 

[Manu_2006]

Ahh they bouta get an upper hand now cuz riboku's head gonna go plop real soon

 

[sssr]

What I’m referring to is a military loss typically doesn’t mean you lose all the soldiers, usually 30-50% (even ~20%) is already considered a rout. In this chapter they implied they lost 300,000 men and in the previous chapter the losing side always seem to lost almost the full number of their men. This is exacerbated by the fact that Qin has been waging consecutive wars and would have been constantly losing able-bodied man.

So, IMO, the reality is that the loss is exaggerated firstly by the winner to pad their accomplishments and second, more generally because they don’t have proper record of their people and they may just count those MIA or fleeing during a rout as simply killed.

The massive losses of the Warring States era are actually well documented by the various state chronicles that were preserved after the end of the Qin by the Han Dynasty's grand historian Sima Qian . The best of these are the mass murders of Bai Qi (Hakuki), as Sima Qian used multiple sources in writing his final assessments. For example, the drowning of 100,000 in Ying was recorded as much higher by the Qin, but Sima Qian used the tallies from Chu itself as well as the chronicles of the Wei (Sima Qian seems to have respected Wei records the most). This is why the shocking tally of the Battle of Changping is recorded with such emotion, because in this case Qin, Zhao, Wei, and even Qi seem to have agreed on the number. It was the largest single massacre in Chinese history up to that point and for many centuries later.

 

[Higasho]

I love this Scan and its quality is sensational, but 3 weeks after the chapter was released it's pretty sad.

It was a brutal long 3 weeks and I was pressing F5 every day, but to be fair there was a lot of text.

Hard to beat a group with Fei Xin (Fast Flying Arrow) in the name.

Hopefully, we don't have to wait long to learn what the third pillar is (CH-803)

 

[HDMI1]

What is a family registry and what would accomplish in this situation?

The family registry lets the government keep track of a family, all of their members, and ages. This way the government can apply the "correct" level of taxation (no level of taxation is ever correct), and make sure that if they enact a draft for soldiers all men of the required age are accounted for, punishing the family if any of the men try to escape from the draft without approved cause.