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Let me quote the relevant parts real quick:
> Types
> [...]
> Relational
> Relational bullying or sometimes referred to as social aggression is the type of bullying that uses relationships to hurt others.[23] The term also denotes any bullying that is done with the intent to hurt somebody's reputation or social standing which can also link in with the techniques included in physical and verbal bullying. [...] Social exclusion (slighting or making someone feel "left out") is one of the most common types of relational bullying. [...]
Just for you, I emphasized the part that says "shunning" is the most common type of relational bullying.
And we actually do see the bullying. In the very chapter I told you to re-read... twice.
Here's the page in question:
Calling him "Ero Tamaki" and telling him to "Go back to [his] store, pervert!" is clearly intended to hurt his reputation or social standing, and is thus already bullying (see the Wikipedia quote above).
Why are you assuming she invited friends home, when we never see it happening?
No, wait... You can't because I never said that.
We don't know why she betrayed him, and it doesn't matter. I once kicked a soccer ball at a goal post, when suddenly a little girl ran into the ball's path and got hit in the face. Even without any evil intent, it was my fault and I apologized to the girl for it. It's what a "semi-normal" person would've done. Even an accident can cause grief to the victim, and therefore warrants an apology.
What Koharu did to Tamaki was much more significant and extended for a much longer time than a simple bump on the head, yet she shows absolutely no remorse for it. By all rights, she should apologize first and foremost, and we never see it happening. The closest thing to an apology we get from her is: "That's because...", which is a justification, not an apology.
For all we know, we may very well be wrong about Koharu, and there's a part the author hasn't shown us that proves that she really isn't at fault at all. However, the author has done nothing to show us that there might have been a misunderstanding, and is instead trying to make us feel sorry for her by showing us how pitiful she is.
And it's not working, because we currently have 0 reason to feel sorry for her.
I believe she was more likely to sleep over at a friend's home than the other way around. Why? Do you believe every kid invites their friends home for a sleepover? Yeah, no. Even in manga, that doesn't happen.So, you believe Tadaki's sister had friends going over there, sleepovers, plenty of school life... but nobody ever found out. Yeah, no.
Sigh, and I even gave you a link to the article about bullying.No, my argumentation is actually that we don't see said bullying.
Let me quote the relevant parts real quick:
> Types
> [...]
> Relational
> Relational bullying or sometimes referred to as social aggression is the type of bullying that uses relationships to hurt others.[23] The term also denotes any bullying that is done with the intent to hurt somebody's reputation or social standing which can also link in with the techniques included in physical and verbal bullying. [...] Social exclusion (slighting or making someone feel "left out") is one of the most common types of relational bullying. [...]
Just for you, I emphasized the part that says "shunning" is the most common type of relational bullying.
And we actually do see the bullying. In the very chapter I told you to re-read... twice.
Here's the page in question:
Calling him "Ero Tamaki" and telling him to "Go back to [his] store, pervert!" is clearly intended to hurt his reputation or social standing, and is thus already bullying (see the Wikipedia quote above).
So are you. The difference being that I actually presented evidence supporting my assumptions, while you've done nothing but pull them out of your ass. For example we have Tamaki's sister:You're just assuming.
Why are you assuming she invited friends home, when we never see it happening?
I'm sure you can quote the exact passage where I accused her of deliberately spreading his secret with some sort of intent, evil or not.Again you feel the need to see a kid talking about a sex shop as some sort of evil mastermind. That's kinda weird.
No, wait... You can't because I never said that.
We don't know why she betrayed him, and it doesn't matter. I once kicked a soccer ball at a goal post, when suddenly a little girl ran into the ball's path and got hit in the face. Even without any evil intent, it was my fault and I apologized to the girl for it. It's what a "semi-normal" person would've done. Even an accident can cause grief to the victim, and therefore warrants an apology.
What Koharu did to Tamaki was much more significant and extended for a much longer time than a simple bump on the head, yet she shows absolutely no remorse for it. By all rights, she should apologize first and foremost, and we never see it happening. The closest thing to an apology we get from her is: "That's because...", which is a justification, not an apology.
For all we know, we may very well be wrong about Koharu, and there's a part the author hasn't shown us that proves that she really isn't at fault at all. However, the author has done nothing to show us that there might have been a misunderstanding, and is instead trying to make us feel sorry for her by showing us how pitiful she is.
And it's not working, because we currently have 0 reason to feel sorry for her.