Kono Koi wo Hoshi ni wa Negawanai - Vol. 4 Ch. 16

[lloyd998]

Imagine blaming the one who got cheated for the cheating you did with her boyfriend. The nerve.

I agree on the general sentiment that the kouhai is annoying.

I get the sneaking suspicion that Kyou talked some shit about Eri towards his kouhai. That is probably why his kouhai is confused because she doesn't understand the full picture.

 

[beThereShortly]

Kyou, my brother, fam, familam, bro, mate, bucko...
What the fuck are you doing!

 

[Estelar]

I don't think I can bring myself to dislike Ino. Like yeah sleeping with a guy you know has a gf is a shit thing to do, but Kyou's clearly given her reason to believe he was gonna break things off with Eri, and has strung her along. Really hating Kyou more with each chapter, I thought he was a bit sympathetic at first but gosh he's just being manipulative and selfish at every opportunity.

erifuyu for life btw

 

[solapuella]

1. Break up - free from comphet(?)
2. The one you have feelings for already has a gf - more angst guaranteed (it's shinoa, who are we kidding)
3. ??????
4. Profit(?) - Wedding chapter

 

[Jetsetlemming]

That kouhai is one of the most baffling types of straight girl, the "this guy wanting to cheat on his existing romantic partner with me is so flattering and such a turn on, surely I can end up with him and this will turn out fine for me!". I have no idea how you end up thinking that way, absolutely alien shit lol. I'd think it was an unrealistic trope, a result of poor writing, of I hadn't seen that poor dumb woman a thousand times irl, including family members. And they never wanna hear "If Kyou cheated on Eri despite them having a bond forged over a lifetime, why the hell would he be better to you as the rebound he's known for a couple weeks".

 

[Fahadxyuu]

Nah fuck kyou, I will be pissed if fuyuki still tries to mend this relationship but going back to the first chapter where she is on call with kyou I guess it's inevitable but I still hate it

 

[Jubaku_Kanojo]

That kouhai is one of the most baffling types of straight girl, the "this guy wanting to cheat on his existing romantic partner with me is so flattering and such a turn on, surely I can end up with him and this will turn out fine for me!". I have no idea how you end up thinking that way, absolutely alien shit lol. I'd think it was an unrealistic trope, a result of poor writing, of I hadn't seen that poor dumb woman a thousand times irl, including family members. And they never wanna hear "If Kyou cheated on Eri despite them having a bond forged over a lifetime, why the hell would he be better to you as the rebound he's known for a couple weeks".

Well that isn't what she's actually thinking when she got Kyou to cheat on Eri. Kouhai is saying that she has always loved Kyou while Eri basically pays him no mind, and that she deserves him more because the love she feels for him since meeting him outweighs the longer history he's had with Eri as childhood friends. Sounds familiar don't you think? The Kouhai is meant to mirror Eri's thoughts. Eri believes that being childhood friends is what makes her relationship to Fuyuki special, and that she should be the one closest to Fuyuki instead of Kisaki because the history she's had with Fuyuki is stronger than Fuyuki and Kisaki's status as girlfriends, especially since Eri herself has always prioritized Fuyuki while Eri had boyfriends. Basically, Eri gonna try to get Fuyuki to cheat next.

 

[loveistheplan]

Well that isn't what she's actually thinking when she got Kyou to cheat on Eri. Kouhai is saying that she has always loved Kyou while Eri basically pays him no mind, and that she deserves him more because the love she feels for him since meeting him outweighs the longer history he's had with Eri as childhood friends. Sounds familiar don't you think? The Kouhai is meant to mirror Eri's thoughts. Eri believes that being childhood friends is what makes her relationship to Fuyuki special, and that she should be the one closest to Fuyuki instead of Kisaki because the history she's had with Fuyuki is stronger than Fuyuki and Kisaki's status as girlfriends, especially since Eri herself has always prioritized Fuyuki while Eri had boyfriends. Basically, Eri gonna try to get Fuyuki to cheat next.

I really don't think they are intended as mirrors. Ino's one-sided affection for Kyou isn't comparable to Eri's and Fuyuki's 17-year-long enmeshment with one another. It's not "childhood friendship" that makes the relationship special in Eri's mind, because she very explicitly and rather negatively compares her history with Kyou ("just" long-time friends) to that with Fuyuki. It's about their connection and direct promises of dedication to one another, rather than just disdain for the third party and a vague proximity (as with Ino). Tl;dr, they actually have a relationship instead of resentment built up whilst orbiting their object of affection. I'd say Ino's feelings are closer to Kyou's for Eri, if anything.

Eri's problem is her inability to recognise (until now) that her desires aren't platonic. She's always emotionally prioritised Fuyuki — to the point it destabilises her romances — but her messed up conceptions of her own (probable) sexuality mean she's been flying blind and wrecking shit in the process. I can fully see her making bigger wrecks, but I'd actually be a little surprised if she tries to induce cheating... especially in the opportunistic way Ino did (Kyou's still most at fault, for the record). Eri may be clueless in some regards...but from her genuine attempts to reciprocate Kyou's affections (and respect Fuyuki's assumed priorities), she really doesn't seem one to knowingly trample people's feelings. Can definitely see her making some anguished declaration and ironically demanding "why not me?" or something tho.

EDIT:

Spoiler: Implied spoiler

I take back everything I said KEKW, Eri you messy bitch, but I love that for you

 

[Multacks]

Kyou and Eri's relationship was over after the fight at the movie filming place. It took them a month and there best friend dragging them to a festival. Then set up time for them to talk for them to finally spell it out to each other.

 

[1idd0kun]

Eri's problem is her inability to recognise (until now) that her desires aren't platonic.

EDIT:

Spoiler: Implied spoiler

I take back everything I said KEKW, Eri you messy bitch, but I love that for you

You're making assumptions. We don't know the nature of Eri's feelings for Fuyuki. They are very ambiguous. That's something that hasn't changed despite what Eri did in the latest untranslated chapter.

Spoiler: spoiler latest chapter

Eri says she doesn't care what kind of feelings she has for Fuyuki. All she wants is to make it so Fuyuki won't leave her. That's why she kissed her. So we still don't know if she has romantic feelings for Fuyuki or not.

 

[loveistheplan]

You're making assumptions. We don't know the nature of Eri's feelings for Fuyuki. They are very ambiguous. That's something that hasn't changed despite what Eri did in the latest untranslated chapter.

Spoiler: spoiler latest chapter

Eri says she doesn't care what kind of feelings she has for Fuyuki. All she wants is to make it so Fuyuki won't leave her. That's why she kissed her. So we still don't know if she has romantic feelings for Fuyuki or not.

True. My reasoning is that, given what we've seen of her attitude towards romance so far, the options are:

Spoiler: Ch. 17 spoiler discussion ahead

she either doesn't/can't recognise the nature of her own feelings, or she's purely motivated by desperation and self-interest. I reckon if Shinoa intends to have a bittersweet ending, it will be the latter. But if not....

The reason I lean towards the former is because of the lengths the story goes to emphasise how isolated Eri feels from the experiences of her peers. Fuyu's assessment of her as a child is straight up that Eri was abrasive because she lacked any awareness of unspoken social rules (especially as a girl), and thus pissed everyone off constantly despite not actually doing anything. Cue being bullied viciously because of it. Eri herself frequently expresses confusion over how or why people act the way they do, and what's expected of her. She seems to have kind of gotten a grasp of how to behave generally (...by doing a personality 180), but clearly she's woefully underequipped to handle intimacy, and in no small part because she can't relinquish her death grip on Fuyu.

Not to armchair, but it honestly feels like she's written as ND, intentionally or not. She only seems to get on by following a bunch of "scripts" and/or doing what people tell her she should. Her freakout in c. 17 comes across as primarily driven by that feeling of social error: she's "wrong" to favour her best friend, but when she gets pushed around, betrayed, and cheated on by her other friend, she's "wrong" for how she reacts to that too. Everyone close to her feels like they're emotionally, developmentally leaving her behind because they're able to flip that switch and make romantic bonds their intimate focus as is expected of them at their age. Meanwhile, the only thing/person Eri chooses for herself and is adamant about is Fuyu and their friendship...which, again, everyone is telling her is wrong, childish.

It's very possible Eri clings so desperately just because Fuyu is the only person who doesn't place any expectations on her she can't live up to. And I guess a third (2.5th?) option is that she's ace or something. But the combination of her response to physical contact, how distressed she was by seeing Fuyu kiss Kisaki (plus how hard she rationalised it), and that narration from future Eri about how "she didn't know herself then" makes me think she just has a really strong mental block preventing her from properly identifying her feelings. I'm not convinced we're so close to the end, so I guess the drama's gonna proceed from that emotional immaturity and the chaos it's about to cause.

She's going out messy either way, like you can't just be doing that shit, girl.

 

[EnFiveFour]

Thank you for the translation!

 

[mufhtagn]

You're making assumptions. We don't know the nature of Eri's feelings for Fuyuki. They are very ambiguous. That's something that hasn't changed despite what Eri did in the latest untranslated chapter.

Spoiler: spoiler latest chapter

Eri says she doesn't care what kind of feelings she has for Fuyuki. All she wants is to make it so Fuyuki won't leave her. That's why she kissed her. So we still don't know if she has romantic feelings for Fuyuki or not.

This is honestly why I’m so anxious about where this is going. T_T If Eri just wants to be Fuyuki’s girlfriend to monopolize her and not because she actually does have those feelings for her we’re going straight to hell in a hand basket.

T_T It’s the absolute worst, especially when it’s your closest friend. Fuyuki. Darling. Run while you still can.

 

[FiddlePop]

Once again, Senpai is the best character this chapter

She wins by doing absolutely nothing!

(I lie, she share those kitty snaps)

 

[Raeisalive]

Hey! I love this story, do you need any help in translating? If you do I'm here~

 

[Kaguya-Sama]

Why the fuck these two idiots are delaying their breakup? lol. Just dump each other over the phone because there's no saving for their relationship. Everyone aside from Fuyuki and her senpai would get 'ETA' on AITAH subreddit.

 

[enstoblue]

drama 🙊🙊🙊

 

[EchoGirl]

Thanks for the chapter

LOL it's one thing to have an unrequited crush but at college age versus like being a middle schooler (tho i guess ppl are still emotional at that age, obviously), but she shouldn't be that upset considering she knew the person she kissed had a partner (plus even if someone's willing to break up/dump their partner for you, i feel like the cycle would still repeat)

 

[Maxim98]

Damn you really fucked up kyou. Well it good that you atleast tried to come clean but you shouldn’t have been in that situation in the first place.

Now go and claim your princess, Fuyuki!

 

[PsychoTheRabbit]

Kind of weird Fuyuki didnt immediately went after Eri.
I guess it wasnt complicated enough as is, huh?