Kuitsume Youhei no Gensou Kitan - Vol. 5 Ch. 27 - From Exploration to Reflection

[Hoezell]

Shuteru most likely translation would be Ster (and forced a little to be Esther with some creativity, although both names have different origins), but Stehl is a good choice too.

 

[arghhhhhh]

From what I remember the LN ended on a cliffhanger, the author just kind of dropped it and never finished the story. I think that happened before the controversy too, but I could be wrong. The story does continue for quite a bit and I really loved reading the LN but it looks like it'll never be completed.

 

[arghhhhhh]

From what I remember the LN ended on a cliffhanger, the author just kind of dropped it and never finished the story. I think that happened before the controversy too, but I could be wrong. The story does continue for quite a bit and I really loved reading the LN but it looks like it'll never be completed.

 

[Grimm030]

For those who don't know, you can read about the controversy on the mangadex autor's page:

I remember when it went down, wasn't even racist per-say but more rude regarding the atrocities of war or perhaps making light of it. Japan and China still have a lot of grudges to this day, so it was extremely ignorant of foreigners to bandwagon onto this movement to harass the author, especially over a fantasy of a story (Nidome no Jinsei o Isekai de). There are worse works out there that are blatantly racist or delve into extremely degenerate situations, that these sorts of no-life people can chase but they went for this author because he was an easy target.

 

[fernawea]

wow I thought this manga had been axed. I hadn't read it in three years and lost touch. It's good to see it's back, but sad about the controversy. Thanks for TL

 

[finalm]

I remember when it went down, wasn't even racist per-say but more rude regarding the atrocities of war or perhaps making light of it. Japan and China still have a lot of grudges to this day, so it was extremely ignorant of foreigners to bandwagon onto this movement to harass the author, especially over a fantasy of a story (Nidome no Jinsei o Isekai de). There are worse works out there that are blatantly racist or delve into extremely degenerate situations, that these sorts of no-life people can chase but they went for this author because he was an easy target.

And what made him an "easy target"? Could it be something about being an unapologetic dumbass on Twitter? That he linked to his brand and career? Yeah, I can see how that makes it easy to sink your own ship. The criticism of his work could have been easily handled as well - make the issue a part of the character's development and it doesn't even need to be about atonement or anything like that, not every story has to be a morality lesson. Of course, to pull that off, actual writing chops are needed and it's all the harder if one insists on being a dissmisive asshole about it.

 

[alto129]

mannn, this manga are some of the good one during age of isekai slops

 

[hawkflights]

I remember when it went down, wasn't even racist per-say but more rude regarding the atrocities of war or perhaps making light of it. Japan and China still have a lot of grudges to this day, so it was extremely ignorant of foreigners to bandwagon onto this movement to harass the author, especially over a fantasy of a story (Nidome no Jinsei o Isekai de). There are worse works out there that are blatantly racist or delve into extremely degenerate situations, that these sorts of no-life people can chase but they went for this author because he was an easy target.

Seems likely that the oddities of the author's works would have been mostly glossed over by everyone if he had only just kept his figurative mouth shut. I won't excuse his worldview (because I don't claim to know it just from a few translated social media posts out of context), but I think the moral of this story is that you can lose far more than you stand to gain from "participating" in social media. Social media is actually dangerous. The posts you make today or the ones you made 5 years ago can potentially deprive you of your relationships, livelihood, and even your freedom. People don't take this seriously, even when they see it happen to others (deserving or not).

 

[fernawea]

So chapter 28 is already up in raw sites.... is just that this update was on June 28. I hope the manga gets more continuity because it's very good (((

 

[DrunkinDonut]

Oh, it was that guy. Yikes.

When the Nidome anime got super canceled, I didn't even think if he was behind any other works. Nidome was sort of generic harem for me, but this actually seemed to have potential.

 

[Kyo00]

I remember reading this when the translated goblin cave chapter came out, then went straight to the LN and finished reading this arc, 6 years gap difference.
I didn't know about the controversy tho, that is kinda shocking

 

[The_Lamb]

Looks like tealsneal picked it up, and his translation is good, so I'm happy to pass on the baton!

 

[frenchiebreadie]

Thanks for picking this up!!!!

 

[Serverclosed]

I catch up. I hate how this manga started, but I like the mystery going.

 

[Serverclosed]

One tweet is all it takes to destroy a career

We live in such a dystopia.

 

[DrunkinDonut]

We live in such a dystopia.

To be fair to the dystopia, in this case, it wasn't a single tweet that destroyed him. There had been questions about the character history he had chosen for a while. But after the anime was announced, the complaints caused people to go over his other statements. And the guy said a bunch of stuff that wasn't going to fly in the international market.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...onist-novel-creator-cause-controversy/.132291

Not to say that you can't destroy yourself with a single tweet, but this wasn't quite it.

 

[shyevsa]

dang marinating this for 4 years and the quest haven't even done?
but dang the novel all cancelled? I was just about to head out and check it.

 

[Shevar]

Hey, you've done a lot work to catch up to this point, thank you for your great effort.

 

[Grimm030]

And what made him an "easy target"? Could it be something about being an unapologetic dumbass on Twitter? That he linked to his brand and career? Yeah, I can see how that makes it easy to sink your own ship. The criticism of his work could have been easily handled as well - make the issue a part of the character's development and it doesn't even need to be about atonement or anything like that, not every story has to be a morality lesson. Of course, to pull that off, actual writing chops are needed and it's all the harder if one insists on being a dissmisive asshole about it.

He was an easy target because he chose to bring his opinion online, where it'll remain even if deleted since the "internet is forever". I just think people are entitled to their own opinions, even if those opinions aren't accepted by others, good or bad. No one forced anybody to read his twitter or that story in-particular, his views were pushed upon precisely no one. The people that attacked him were the sort who would burn books given the opportunity, they don't value the very act of being able to speak one's mind even as they do so themselves. I don't have an issue with such people's opinions, like not liking his work or even finding it offensive and letting others know that, it becomes an issue when they want someone else silenced. He apparently apologized but that doesn't matter, this will be held over his head until he stops writing eventually because redemption online is almost never allowed.

Seems likely that the oddities of the author's works would have been mostly glossed over by everyone if he had only just kept his figurative mouth shut. I won't excuse his worldview (because I don't claim to know it just from a few translated social media posts out of context), but I think the moral of this story is that you can lose far more than you stand to gain from "participating" in social media. Social media is actually dangerous. The posts you make today or the ones you made 5 years ago can potentially deprive you of your relationships, livelihood, and even your freedom. People don't take this seriously, even when they see it happen to others (deserving or not).

They don't take it seriously until someone takes offense, I don't personally see how his opinions on social media matter unless he went out and actively harassed Chinese people IRL, all people would have to do is not read his works if they took some offense to his views. As far as the publisher and studio go, I would have expected them to be more lenient for something as extremely tame as this but to my surprise the opposite occurred.

 

[finalm]

He was an easy target because he chose to bring his opinion online, where it'll remain even if deleted since the "internet is forever". I just think people are entitled to their own opinions, even if those opinions aren't accepted by others, good or bad.

Was he charged for having said opinion? No? Then he was entitled to it. Other people are entitled to theirs as well, as well as acting on them.

No one forced anybody to read his twitter or that story in-particular, his views were pushed upon precisely no one. The people that attacked him were the sort who would burn books given the opportunity, they don't value the very act of being able to speak one's mind even as they do so themselves. I don't have an issue with such people's opinions, like not liking his work or even finding it offensive and letting others know that, it becomes an issue when they want someone else silenced

Sure, don't like it don't read it. Only how are you supposed to find out whether you like it? Didn't think that through, did you? That's besides the point, really. The thing with free-speech warriors is that when they spout jingoistic crap it's "speaking one's mind", but when other people give them back in kind, it's "attacking" and "silencing". Get a fucking grip, man. Make up your mind whether you want to speak your piece for all to hear and be known for it, or not. There is no speech without consequences and neither you nor him have the right to demand such.

He apparently apologized but that doesn't matter, this will be held over his head until he stops writing eventually because redemption online is almost never allowed.

And you're saying that was something he was not aware of? By your own logic, no one forced him to share his views, especially under his real name. He still did and when it turns out to be highly unpopular and a PR nightmare, now he's a victim, because people can't bring themselves to believe his insincere apology (he previously doubled down, after all)? I have no words just how pathetic this is... It's always the same with the "free speech" crowd.

They don't take it seriously until someone takes offense, I don't personally see how his opinions on social media matter unless he went out and actively harassed Chinese people IRL, all people would have to do is not read his works if they took some offense to his views. As far as the publisher and studio go, I would have expected them to be more lenient for something as extremely tame as this but to my surprise the opposite occurred.

All he had to do is maintain some semblence of professionalism when it came to a public, work related profile. He couldn't manage, so now the publisher and studio need to take the hit and promote someone with a bad, self inflicted image in hopes it would still somehow work out against all odds? I suppose it's only business until a snowflake needs rescuing...