Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka? - Ch. 63.1

[Dwarfy2k]

Why? Their part of the story isn't even relevant at this point of time...

Again the "Hero" side isn't relevant to the story yet, and even then the only thing being added by the "Hero" side is having a comparison point for Kumo's struggle and the effects of her actions in the future.

At least you mentioned the LN... if you said the anime is easier to digest than the mange I would've flipped a lid.


Like honestly, who do you think from the "Hero" side would matter in where we are now at the manga? Personally I would like a spin-off for the "Hero" side but I don't really need that now since they don't matter to the story yet.

It's cause it's all part of the world building, we keep meeting people and it feels like we are supposed to know who they are.

 

[CinderSquall]

It's cause it's all part of the world building, we keep meeting people and it feels like we are supposed to know who they are.

But that's the thing, they don't really matter right now, especially for Kumoko.

 

[groudonvert]

Everything I said happens same time, so it really isnt a spoiler. Only future events I put in spoiler.

Spoiler

Uhm, the real biggest reason why demon king and shiro saw eye to eye was because of body in charge merging with the demon king. Demon kings personality gained closer to shiro and she understood shiro better. This is the same in WN and manga so I assume same for LN. Ariel was never one for giving up simply cause other side was stronger

Only reason why Demon king was fighting shiro was because shiro attacked her foundation first, even if it was initially not shiros intention.

I dont see any gains with the story changes, it only makes things look forced and ridicilous. This is one of the big problems, editors often force authors to change the story so itll be different from the WN for purpose of sales

About what you mentionned that happens differently in the WN, thinking they are.

Spoiler

The UFO in this chapters is not the only one. Potimas has one in the village, just like you said. The Light Novel didn't change that. So, it is a spoiler.

And about the spoil contents now :

Spoiler

Ariel asks for a truce because even if she's twice stronger than White, she had no way to face her Immortality, since Abyss Magic didn't work on her. White accepted because she has no way to beat her. Body-in-Charge merging was only an aspect, but the reality was they couldn't kill the other.

But it's only a truce, both of them are still in war with each other. Ariel still had a grudge for the death of her offsprings and White still sees her as a threat. Unknown to White (and us Manga-Reader lol), Ariel discovered how White survived the Abyss Magic, thanks to a discussion with Dustin. When she realized that White could survive no matter what she tries, and also seeing how close the Puppet Taratect were of White, Ariel stopped trying to think of a way to kill her (with regrets for her dead offsprings) and chose to make her an ally instead. White still doesn't know about that and thinks she will try to kill her at some point.

It looks forced to you, because all of this was skipped in the Manga. Their relationship works much better in the Light Novel than in the Web Novel (I'm still wondering why they became so close in the WN lol).

 

[groudonvert]

Why? Their part of the story isn't even relevant at this point of time...

Again the "Hero" side isn't relevant to the story yet, and even then the only thing being added by the "Hero" side is having a comparison point for Kumo's struggle and the effects of her actions in the future.

At least you mentioned the LN... if you said the anime is easier to digest than the mange I would've flipped a lid.


Like honestly, who do you think from the "Hero" side would matter in where we are now at the manga? Personally I would like a spin-off for the "Hero" side but I don't really need that now since they don't matter to the story yet.

The Shun's part is relevant because of all the Worldbuilding it adds. Seriously, what do we know from the world in the manga ? Nearly nothing.

 

[eng1]

About what you mentionned that happens differently in the WN, thinking they are.

Spoiler

The UFO in this chapters is not the only one. Potimas has one in the village, just like you said. The Light Novel didn't change that. So, it is a spoiler.

And about the spoil contents now :

Spoiler

Ariel asks for a truce because even if she's twice stronger than White, she had no way to face her Immortality, since Abyss Magic didn't work on her. White accepted because she has no way to beat her. Body-in-Charge merging was only an aspect, but the reality was they couldn't kill the other.

But it's only a truce, both of them are still in war with each other. Ariel still had a grudge for the death of her offsprings and White still sees her as a threat. Unknown to White (and us Manga-Reader lol), Ariel discovered how White survived the Abyss Magic, thanks to a discussion with Dustin. When she realized that White could survive no matter what she tries, and also seeing how close the Puppet Taratect were of White, Ariel stopped trying to think of a way to kill her (with regrets for her dead offsprings) and chose to make her an ally instead. White still doesn't know about that and thinks she will try to kill her at some point.

It looks forced to you, because all of this was skipped in the Manga. Their relationship works much better in the Light Novel than in the Web Novel (I'm still wondering why they became so close in the WN lol).

Spoiler

The difference between WN and manga was that the queens were brainless machines in WN with set programming. Ariel had no attachment to them other than them being part of her foundation. Only threat Shiro posed was being able to invade her mind. The reason they became close friends in the WN was precisely because body in charge personality joined with her. So not only did she understand her better, they realized they could help each others goals. The demon king was desperate to free the goddess even if it meant going against her wish. And Shiro just wants to solve this worlds problem. They both had same goal. Also Shiro easily got attached to people even if she does mistreat them.

Now maybe the WN handled thinhs better than the manga, but I see no problem with demon king and Shiro becoming close friends. Even more so since they kind of time skipped over a decade later

 

[groudonvert]

Spoiler

The difference between WN and manga was that the queens were brainless machines in WN with set programming. Ariel had no attachment to them other than them being part of her foundation. Only threat Shiro posed was being able to invade her mind. The reason they became close friends in the WN was precisely because body in charge personality joined with her. So not only did she understand her better, they realized they could help each others goals. The demon king was desperate to free the goddess even if it meant going against her wish. And Shiro just wants to solve this worlds problem. They both had same goal. Also Shiro easily got attached to people even if she does mistreat them.

Now maybe the WN handled thinhs better than the manga, but I see no problem with demon king and Shiro becoming close friends. Even more so since they kind of time skipped over a decade later

Spoiler

I admit that I didn't read the entire WN (started a bit before they begin the journey). But uh... I understand that Body in charge is partly responsible of Ariel wanting to bound with White (it's also a bit like that with the Light Novel, but further explored), but why did White bound with her ? She treated her like shit all the time, commenting how neat she is at work, hated the goddess she's supposed to save (and brutally attacked her) and suddenly she accepted to work with her plainly ? Yeah I don't buy it.

Btw, I didn't read the beginning of the WN mostly because I don't like WN's White (still read a huge part of the WN's prolepsis though).

 

[eng1]

Spoiler

I admit that I didn't read the entire WN (started a bit before they begin the journey). But uh... I understand that Body in charge is partly responsible of Ariel wanting to bound with White (it's also a bit like that with the Light Novel, but further explored), but why did White bound with her ? She treated her like shit all the time, commenting how neat she is at work, hated the goddess she's supposed to save (and brutally attacked her) and suddenly she accepted to work with her plainly ? Yeah I don't buy it.

Btw, I didn't read the beginning of the WN mostly because I don't like WN's White (still read a huge part of the WN's prolepsis though).

Spoiler

As I mentioned before, Shiro gets attached easily even if she treats others harshly often even with violence. Her hate for the goddess is more to the tune of someone hating retards making it hard for everyone and if you havent noticed Ariel and she are in the same situation. She was saved by the teacher and wants to save the teacher, but the teacher wants to save the students even at sacrifice of herself. Same thing, Ariel was saved by the goddess, but the goddess wants to save the humans even if it means sacrificing herself. So they both emphasize with each other being in same exact situation.

 

[CinderSquall]

The Shun's part is relevant because of all the Worldbuilding it adds. Seriously, what do we know from the world in the manga ? Nearly nothing.

Again we're experiencing things just as Kumo is experiencing things in the manga, all of the worldbuilding in Shun's side is essentially just to show how big of an effect Kumo's actions were having to the world. That's it, that's the "worldbuilding" you guys are complaining we're missing, The more important worldbuilding is on Kumo's side, the few on Shun's side is mostly towards the part where the 2 coincide.

Like the only main thing manga only people are "missing" is the teacher's side of the story and even that isn't really needed yet...

 

[groudonvert]

Again we're experiencing things just as Kumo is experiencing things in the manga, all of the worldbuilding in Shun's side is essentially just to show how big of an effect Kumo's actions were having to the world. That's it, that's the "worldbuilding" you guys are complaining we're missing, The more important worldbuilding is on Kumo's side, the few on Shun's side is mostly towards the part where the 2 coincide.

Like the only main thing manga only people are "missing" is the teacher's side of the story and even that isn't really needed yet...

Uh... tell me, what do you know about this world based just on White's PoV ?

The world is much further explored when she doesn't have the PoV. That is from Shun, Ariel, Potimas or even Sophia. She barely has any interactions with others because she's a monster. All of the Worldbuilding stuff (and story too, story elements are barely touched in White's chapters) comes from the other, that's why they're important.

 

[groudonvert]

Spoiler

As I mentioned before, Shiro gets attached easily even if she treats others harshly often even with violence. Her hate for the goddess is more to the tune of someone hating retards making it hard for everyone and if you havent noticed Ariel and she are in the same situation. She was saved by the teacher and wants to save the teacher, but the teacher wants to save the students even at sacrifice of herself. Same thing, Ariel was saved by the goddess, but the goddess wants to save the humans even if it means sacrificing herself. So they both emphasize with each other being in same exact situation.

I've noticed and your explanation is probably right, since there's no real good one. The Light Novel is much better in how it builds their relationship, it doesn't come out of nowhere.

 

[Shakur]

This situation is so much more complicated than in the webnovel lmao
Tho I really don't like that elf bitch's involvement they should kill the bastard before anything else.

 

[groudonvert]

This situation is so much more complicated than in the webnovel lmao
Tho I really don't like that elf bitch's involvement they should kill the bastard before anything else.

For many reasons they can't.

 

[dearmusic]

Take care of them or "take care" of them, makes a big difference.

 

[daywithoutgames]

the eff-ing elf boss uses the polite pronoun "watashi" , but he calls everyone with "ki-sama" = you bastard .

- pope guy : ... ki-sama , you eff-ing elf ...

- dragon guy : watashi ...

page 14 :
the dragon minion uses the pronoun "ore" .

then demon queen mentions this : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_company_(Japanese_term)

- spider girl : watashi ...

- vampire girl : watashi ...

last page :
- vampire guy : ojou-sama .

 

[Trendy_Burritoo]

oh boy, one of my favorite parts from the novel is coming up )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))00

 

[abowie93]

I really hope they continue with the translations

 

[GridLite]

elf prolly wants to override the system if he can

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wyvern having a meltdown from life crisis lmao