Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka? - Vol. 10 Ch. 46.2
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@musicfreak12 A conflict that can't be solved with brute strength, pitting multiple different parties against one another, including the other reincarnations. The story so far has literally been nothing but the prologue (no joke) and is skipping half of the content from the novels, which provide a lot of set-ups as to what the other reincarnations are doing and what is the real plot of the story. By removing all of that, there's zero foreshadowing to what's gonna be happening once she leaves the labyrinth, but know that most of the story is closer to Overlord in that it follows a lot of characters in different places and how they influence one another. This won't turn into a generic power fantasy, that much I'll guarantee.
@chietcom It does make it better IMO. Sure, none is as charismatic and lovable as the protagonist, but those chapters make it crystal clear that this story is much more intricate than ''cute spooder fighting monsters'', and without them I feel like a lot of people are gonna be turned off by what's coming next.
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@Huichelaar I mean 1/4 minds learned that lesson, the other two kinda just fucking bulldozed over her lamentation and said we got this.
I read the novel a long time ago and I'm not sure, but
Isn't a lot of content missing at this point? Kumoko should have trained that "Great Magician" for some time in the labirynth, before coming out and obliterating that fort, then proceeding to become a divine beast near some town, where she healed people, wiretap the whole town, learn the language, got pissed by some noble and assassinate him - before ever meeting Ariel for the first time? And that would be still years before other reincarnators crawl out of the cradles and start their training. I'm also confused with the two chapters with the briefing at the Demon Lord's, this should also happen in the future, and Kumo should be present there, after successful apotheosis?
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Where is this in the light novel?
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The final part of Volume 4 - Chapter 11: Matricide. Or you can start in Final Chapter: The First Encounter.
IMPORTANT!!!
You MUST!!! read the side chapters of the Light Novel to make a complete jump to the LN. The side chapters are literally all the Plot, World Building and Side Characters (the other reincarnators) that the manga skipped.
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The final part of Volume 4 - Chapter 11: Matricide. Or you can start in Final Chapter: The First Encounter.
IMPORTANT!!!
You MUST!!! read the side chapters of the Light Novel to make a complete jump to the LN. The side chapters are literally all the Plot, World Building and Side Characters (the other reincarnators) that the manga skipped.
Side Chapters List
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Volume 1
Volume 2
Volume 3
Volume 4
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Volume 2
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It already has. Did the over-a-dozen-new-skills-every-other-chapter thing not indicate this? What about the fact that the MC has a skill called "Immortality"? This is very much a generic power fantasy.
It already has. Did the over-a-dozen-new-skills-every-other-chapter thing not indicate this? What about the fact that the MC has a skill called "Immortality"? This is very much a generic power fantasy.
@Huichelaar Except she worked to get those skills, she wasn't granted them from the start nor can she buy anything she wants whenever. Furthermore, those skills serve to show how the system works, which is important to see how it impacts people and foreshadows certain things about its true nature. Anyone can gain the same amount of skills if they do like her,
. As for Immortality, there are multiple loopholes about it that doesn't truly make her immortal, not to mention
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Another important point that this manga does a poor job of showing is that while Kumoko is the protagonist, she is not the center of the universe, and her actions can (and already have) impact others negatively. The whole thing about Kumo Desu is that it starts off as a quirky parody of the generic isekai formula, but later deconstructs it entirely.
in fact she will literally train some people later on so that they also become incredibly strong
she loses it alongside nearly all her skills later
Another important point that this manga does a poor job of showing is that while Kumoko is the protagonist, she is not the center of the universe, and her actions can (and already have) impact others negatively. The whole thing about Kumo Desu is that it starts off as a quirky parody of the generic isekai formula, but later deconstructs it entirely.
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A long time ago when I was pissed off how powerful she got, I asked for spoilers and
they confirmed to me how much more she would get, even kind of abandoning the slider form. So it became obvious to me it did turn out into a generic power fantasy.
But they didn't explain about those other reincarnations. So it turns into some kind of battle royale? Does it get really complicated? Perhaps I should just switch the medium
But they didn't explain about those other reincarnations. So it turns into some kind of battle royale? Does it get really complicated? Perhaps I should just switch the medium
The biggest difference between this and other isekais is that our MC worked very hard to gain all of these skills. You literally witness her struggle to even appraise things. All of the steps were detailed so you can't really say she got things for "no reason". In comparison, stories like Mushoku just gave a random fatty overpowered skills for literally no reason. You don't even witness a proper training arc and he was powerful in 1-2 chapters after reincarnating. So all these complaints literally make no sense.
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Sure, she had to work for those skills. She was close to death many many times. That's all wonderful and dandy, but now, with over a hundred of these damn things in her arsenal, one can't help but wonder, hmmm... power fantasy much? Don't get me wrong, I really like how this comic started out with our protagonist being very vulnerable, but right now things are very different. If we're still very much in the prologue, then I don't see how this comic is all that different from the hundreds of other Isekais where "MC starts weak but grows into the strongest and now everything is a pushover!" It had the potential to be, but it squandered it.
Alternatively, say she will still have trouble dealing with enemies in the future, which I don't doubt, it's been the hallmark of this series. There's no way of knowing how dire her situation is, unless one keeps track of all the skills in her arsenal. "Which one could she use to counter this foe? Time to go over the list again". And even then, MC may just pull a surprise Ha-your-counterskill-doesn't-work-because-I-can-brute-force-my-way-around-it. Take this chapter for example: Her enemy blocks magic attacks, what now? Oh, just use more magic. Or take immortality, it means nothing, because she isn't actually immortal.
Either we got a generic power fantasy or an ungrounded, unpredictable power level system. Neither is commendable.
BTW, Even if this comic were a parody of the Isekai formula, that isn't a counter argument to it being a generic comic; There's already countless Isekai-parodies out there.
Alternatively, say she will still have trouble dealing with enemies in the future, which I don't doubt, it's been the hallmark of this series. There's no way of knowing how dire her situation is, unless one keeps track of all the skills in her arsenal. "Which one could she use to counter this foe? Time to go over the list again". And even then, MC may just pull a surprise Ha-your-counterskill-doesn't-work-because-I-can-brute-force-my-way-around-it. Take this chapter for example: Her enemy blocks magic attacks, what now? Oh, just use more magic. Or take immortality, it means nothing, because she isn't actually immortal.
Either we got a generic power fantasy or an ungrounded, unpredictable power level system. Neither is commendable.
BTW, Even if this comic were a parody of the Isekai formula, that isn't a counter argument to it being a generic comic; There's already countless Isekai-parodies out there.
