Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka? - Vol. 7 Ch. 34.1

[firosahoge]

Is there actually drama in this thread? They tried to kill her, a monster, and she killed them back gaining benefits from it like exp and skills. There are no problems here.

Edit: Typo

 

[linkhuesitos15]

@firosahoge
Shhh They finally shut up. Don't start the fire again.

Just wait for the next chapters. The comment section will reach new levels of cringe and mental breakdown.

 

[huttingham]

@DreamCarver I don't think that ease of replacement is a replacement for the fact that they destroyed her home twice. I don't know if you've ever had your home violated or felt powerless, but it does things to you. Having your home violated is deeply unnerving regardless of its ability to be replaced.

 

[Denrick19]

I hope they aren't doing a "they deserved it guys XD murder house humans?"

 

[fitizen]

based kumoko "cant flim flam the zim zam" chan

 

[Wildstag]

Oh shoot, I just realized the reason she's able to so quickly justify killing humans (or at least one reason, maybe) is the effect of her "Merciless" title, which causes feelings of guilt to disappear. She can't feel guilty for her shenanigans.

 

[MorrisSohmer]

On Kumoko being murder happy:

Spoiler

A lot of people remark that Shiraori isn't human but one thing the web novel just brought up and I found interesting was how Ariel asks her friends to be patient with Shiraori, since she's just a child who's still figuring out how to relate and interact with others and the fact that she doesn't understand this herself only prevents her from objectively assessing her actions and understanding when she takes things too far (which is always, forever) so, she usually just escapes from and justifies all her actions, my favorite catchphrase of hers in the novels is "If you think about it, you lose!" coupled with many of her monologues creating a justification for her aggression out of minor details or shifting the blame to her victims.

This to say that Shiraori is like one or two years old, she was a spider after all, and while she does have a lot of knowledge from her "past life" most of it is vague nonsense D made as a cover story, like she being a 16 year old stock broker with no parents; rather than actual memories
Hell, I'm pretty sure her most detailed memories from D are MMO facts, rather than any social skills, empathy or human interaction; which to be fair is applicable to us bunch, but hardly useful to a child.

So with that in mind, what we're seeing is Shiraori's character being created by single moments which come to define her; such as her developing a trauma to the monkeys, from which she still runs away as both a demon lord and a god later on, her obsession with power and her "The weak are food and the strong do eat" mentality, which warped what little common sense she had to begin with.

And as a final nail in the coffin [Taboo] also lightens the weight of any of her atrocities, not because the skill itself changes Shiraori's attitude but because once you unlock it and understand how the System works, any killing becomes a net positive for the world which only makes the prospect of farming humans all the more enticing, since not only is she neutralizing threats, which prolongs her life but she's becoming stronger, which prolongs her life and also she's contributing to sustaining the world, which prolongs her life.

 

[RenTheWitch]

Kumoko, i thought u were gonna eat them humans, seems she still has a bottom line as a former human? they should have offered fruit

 

[esp]

If you're gonna defend the humans with "of course they would kill the monsters", then Kumoko has done nothing objectionable as a monster in her territory. Monsters kill humans.

 

[gtstyling32]

turn this into a anime

 

[anime06]

GO KUMOKO GO

 

[Topper]

@gtstyling32 there was already an anime of this around 2-3 years ago but it sucked so noone knows about it

 

[Tonikill1]

@Topper I can't find it anywhere

 

[Lucca_R]

@Topper yo what?

 

[hyzza]

So, noone noticed the reference?

Spoiler

But fiiiirst...

 

[InterestedReader]

compared to the anime and this bruh

 

[lycantant]

How is she evil: They clearly didn't stand a chance. It wasn't about protecting herself. She didn't fear, they might bring reinforcements. She was angered in the beginning and genuinely surprised humans die so fast, but after she noticed that, she didn't stop. She didn't even stop when they were retreating. She had the means to capture at least some of them, with threat manipulation, after their formation broke down. She likes the EXPs she got from slaughtering them. And she was slaughtering them. Not just killing them, deadening them or doing them away, that was slaughter. From our human POV that qualifies as evil.

Evil? Tell that to the man who set her house on fire and tried to murder her first.

 

[lycantant]

@Kaarme That's some nice mental gymnastics you have going on there. It doesn't take a genius to see that she's morally corrupt and has no integrity whatsoever.

Not really, she just wanted to farm them for xp.

Do you consider a human's life to be equal to an animal's life?

That's some lapse in logic. Having an understanding that both sides may die doesn't excuse her actions. By the same logic we should scrap the Geneva convention and celebrate wartime atrocities.


Typical false analogy. First, duels in the 17th century were stupid and evil. Second this is not a fair duel, it's more like she has a tank and they have a stick to fight with.


So because she left them alive, only because they were useful to her alive, that somehow counts as a positive towards her morality? Say what?

It's beyond clear that she's evil, this is not even a grey area, she's literally an amoral mass murderer, and her capacity for empathy MIA. I don't know what you've been smoking, but it's clear she's a full blown psychopath.

Evil, you say? If you don't want to be experience points, don't go into the dungeon, burn its nest, and try to kill it.