Kuse Tsuyo Kanojo wa Toko ni Izanau - Ch. 14

[dokidoki]

Wdym? Is chapter 15.2 out?

Raws, you can see all of ch 15 in the raw official already

 

[Niro]

Raws, you can see all of ch 15 in the raw official already

Doesn't look like it's all of the chapter since the raw official site says 15, first half. And the comment about spoiled milk doesn't seem accurate because there isn't any explanation given at all yet within 15.1

 

[dokidoki]

Doesn't look like it's all of the chapter since the raw official site says 15, first half. And the comment about spoiled milk doesn't seem accurate because there isn't any explanation given at all yet within 15.1

You are correct, yea I tried searching for 15.2 and couldn't find jack either lmao so yea now I too am curious what they meant

 

[Lex27]

You are correct, yea I tried searching for 15.2 and couldn't find jack either lmao so yea now I too am curious what they meant

The MC says he's hearing a faint male voice in 15.1, so the "major hint" is rendered moot. That's what I meant.

 

[Uk2897]

sometimes cool like Arata from Shiunji-ke no Kodomotachi

You're telling me Reiji actually wrote a cool and likable protagonist unlike Cuckzuya?

 

[Shamgarsan]

Clearly she’s a vtuber.

 

[DLRevan]

I find that's something so hard to gauge in new couples, how much or how well someone responds to some teasing and how the personalities interact. Some guys might have for example taken her somewhere else with deciseveness, simply said yes I am and I want to monopolize you or whatever manga cliche... Here he went with the depressive low self-steem response, so she shouldn't do that again in the future because he seems like someone who does not enjoy this kind of play

But his come back showed how much he is not a coward and will defend who he loves, so that also shows he has some fiber, just need more confidence to believe he can be with her

I have a hard time justifying it as any level of acceptable teasing for any personality except someone with a cuck fetish. She ignored him, didn't look in his direction, didn't talk to him, didn't say or react when Kiyoshi cut him off verbally. She did the opposite with Kiyoshi. She only seemed to remember he was there when Kiyoshi himself asked her to invite him (so he could beat his ass at table tennis).

To be honest, so what if they were originally there to show Nao the beach? All it took was an old acquaintance to forget who was she giving her time to. The intention means nothing if the actions don't follow. She was wasting time not showing him the beach. It's actually worse that they were there for that specific reason, because there's really no excuse that she wasn't fulfilling it at that point.

The only thing that makes me feel like this isn't a stupid characterization, is it starting to seem like she's aware she's got this problem. Which therefore means this is actually the core topic of the story. I think she knows she acts in ways that give people the wrong signals. This causes her difficulty in making friends except with sharp people like Hiba. And it also makes many other people think she's an easy slut, or that she isn't serious about building a normal relationship. When she overheard Kiyoshi trying to dig out her sex life, it seemed like a familiar situation for her.

She has this problem probably because she's too playful, and gets carried away with what she finds fun, sometimes to the extent of ignoring other people's feelings or her responsibilities. We see she's not the most mature or responsible person in reality, judging by her apartment. For whatever reason, she knows she has this problem, yet can't seem to change herself. That may be why she's guilty about being attracted to Nao, she thinks he deserves better than someone so poorly put together, she comes off as promiscuous, slovenly and flaky when she isn't even a real slut (probably).

 

[kuchiki9988]

I have a hard time justifying it as any level of acceptable teasing for any personality except someone with a cuck fetish. She ignored him, didn't look in his direction, didn't talk to him, didn't say or react when Kiyoshi cut him off verbally. She did the opposite with Kiyoshi. She only seemed to remember he was there when Kiyoshi himself asked her to invite him (so he could beat his ass at table tennis).

To be honest, so what if they were originally there to show Nao the beach? All it took was an old acquaintance to forget who was she giving her time to. The intention means nothing if the actions don't follow. She was wasting time not showing him the beach. It's actually worse that they were there for that specific reason, because there's really no excuse that she wasn't fulfilling it at that point.

The only thing that makes me feel like this isn't a stupid characterization, is it starting to seem like she's aware she's got this problem. Which therefore means this is actually the core topic of the story. I think she knows she acts in ways that give people the wrong signals. This causes her difficulty in making friends except with sharp people like Hiba. And it also makes many other people think she's an easy slut, or that she isn't serious about building a normal relationship. When she overheard Kiyoshi trying to dig out her sex life, it seemed like a familiar situation for her.

She has this problem probably because she's too playful, and gets carried away with what she finds fun, sometimes to the extent of ignoring other people's feelings or her responsibilities. We see she's not the most mature or responsible person in reality, judging by her apartment. For whatever reason, she knows she has this problem, yet can't seem to change herself. That may be why she's guilty about being attracted to Nao, she thinks he deserves better than someone so poorly put together, she comes off as promiscuous, slovenly and flaky when she isn't even a real slut (probably).

What I said before was more of a general thought, I think 'teasing' doesn't translate well and I'm missing something since english is not my first language, cucking is a whole different thing that was not included in what I meant

Your first comment just randomly made me think about the formation of couples in these manga and how often the "teasing" comes into play. About this specific case I pretty much agree, It's clear author is baiting a lot this NTR thing and building her around this dubious promiscuous personality, I see the good plot points you mentioned, I think she's pretty much behaving with the self-fulfilling prophecy and being stuck in the loop of becoming the labels put on her, reinforcing it by acting like it and self-deprecating in her own mind.

This was a lot more thought than I expected to dedicate to this manga, but it was nice lol

 

[vanCham]

Is there still no uncensored version around?

 

[nodelent]

Uncensored when?

 

[seastone]

I stopped reading this manga 10 chapters ago and now just enjoy reading comments after every new chapter. Pure bliss

 

[idk234]

The MC says he's hearing a faint male voice in 15.1, so the "major hint" is rendered moot. That's what I meant.

the male voice, since it's faint... i'll just guess that a neighbor is jerking off to those sounds she's making lmao he's hearing both of them

 

[OldVice]

Why do I feel like this might end up being something stupid along the lines of, she sleeps all day, works at the bar in the evening and draws manga at night while making weird erotic sounds the entire time and the person she sent to the room and yelled at over the phone were assistants that were working with her.

Odds are I'm wrong, but it looks like we'll (probably) find out soon.

 

[shinya78]

Uncensored when?

Uncensored comes out when the tankoubons come out. After that, it'll be up to RadeonScans when the updated chapters will come out.

There are 5 chapters plus an extra per book so far. If you're looking for uncensored chapters from chapter 11 onward, it'll be sometime AFTER chapter 15 releases on the 20th of September Japan Standard Time. Assuming the next release will not be the final chapter, I'd guess volume 3 will be out by around December or January.

Edit:
Good news, 15.2 is not the final chapter.

Anyway, here's Spoiler Wall.

Spoiler: Chapter 15.2

Short spoiler: Truth reveal, Occam's Razor is the answer, we are finally going to learn Luna's secret next chapter, we're practically starting next chapter from here.

Spoiler: Long Spoiler

We start immediately with Luna sweating all over, completely embarrassed that after all this time, Naoto has heard her nightly moaning. She rushes back to her room, and Naoto follows her, only to find NO ONE ELSE other than just Luna in her room. Naoto checks the door entryway for someone else's shoes and finds only his and Luna's.

Naoto sits on top of the bed beside Luna, who is hiding under her blanket, and starts to apologize. He mentions that Luna wouldn't want her boyfriend's voice being heard. Luna questions this but Naoto continues, saying he heard a man's voice thinking Luna's got herself a new boyfriend. Luna immediately corrects Naoto and tells him that it wasn't a boyfriend's voice that Naoto heard.

Luna, embarrased, and making sure there's no more misunderstanding between them confesses to Naoto that she was watching porn on her phone and masturbating the whole time.

Luna claims she's been doing it with earphones on, and panics if her earphones are broken. Naoto recalling to himself that this is the only time he heard a man's voice. Relieved after knowing the truth, he starts thinking of asking Luna about that one time Luna was seemingly "kissing someone" by a door. Before he could start, Luna cuts him off saying that everything so far is Naoto's fault.

She thought at first that it would just be a bigger Naoto from her past who would be staying with her, but she found a completely different Naoto instead. She tries to not notice it, but her feelings and body just couldn't help it, and so she goes at it alone.

Luna adds that because of what Naoto told Ryuuji, Luna hid the truth from him. Naoto sees it as Luna being conscious of Naoto as a member of the opposite sex and asks her if this was the case. Luna blushes as if he got it correct, and Naoto smiles.

Luna pounces on Naoto for smiling, and starts to deliver the weakest ground-and-pound from full mount, while saying she doesn't want Naoto to hate her. Naoto with a smug face, reassures her that he won't hate Luna no matter how perverted of a person she turns out to be. Luna claims he doesn't know that for sure, claiming that she might be more lewd than Naoto thinks, bringing us right back to this very spread. Naoto then asks her what if he still doesn't hate her despite it.

Chapter ends with Luna telling him that when the time comes, she'll tell him the reason why she stopped visiting the countryside during summer, she will tell him 'the secret that Luna had hidden from Nao-kun'.

 

[box2024]

I don't know what's happened but something happened

 

[mulate]

what is this RaG dogshit chapter

The JP crowd all got NTR in the back of their minds or something, I swear

 

[shinya78]

While we won't get all the questions answered for now, the payoff for those who stayed with the story is here, and there's one thing for sure.

We have reached bookends for Luna's "quirk" arc, Luna's end game is upon us.

We either get an ending right after, or the other girls will finally get their turn to fully showcase their own "quirks" to Naoto and extend the story.

 

[box2024]

Well guys what do you think Luna's big secret will be?

 

[shinya78]

Well guys what do you think Luna's big secret will be?

Is that a call for... theories?

Well there's the "fun but unlikely" option:

She's somehow connected to Suga Atsushi's isekai title and that she's not 100% human, possibly part succubi who just recently awakened that part of her, she then had to suppress her emerging succubi instincts to protect the young Naoto from herself.

The "lame but likely" option:

It had something to do with the bite incident, she was probably the one who actually did something to get the cops involved. She probably went overzealous and overreacted or something, which got her legally unable to show herself in their hometown during summer.

And the wildcard option:

This one is a combination of both options, but here she's actually a 100% human yandere for Naoto, and is actively suppressing her horni for him.

 

[Wholesome_Seeker]

Uncensored comes out when the tankoubons come out. After that, it'll be up to RadeonScans when the updated chapters will come out.

There are 5 chapters plus an extra per book so far. If you're looking for uncensored chapters from chapter 11 onward, it'll be sometime AFTER chapter 15 releases on the 20th of September Japan Standard Time. Assuming the next release will not be the final chapter, I'd guess volume 3 will be out by around December or January.

Edit:
Good news, 15.2 is not the final chapter.

Anyway, here's Spoiler Wall.

Spoiler: Chapter 15.2

Short spoiler: Truth reveal, Occam's Razor is the answer, we are finally going to learn Luna's secret next chapter, we're practically starting next chapter from here.

Spoiler: Long Spoiler

We start immediately with Luna sweating all over, completely embarrassed that after all this time, Naoto has heard her nightly moaning. She rushes back to her room, and Naoto follows her, only to find NO ONE ELSE other than just Luna in her room. Naoto checks the door entryway for someone else's shoes and finds only his and Luna's.

Naoto sits on top of the bed beside Luna, who is hiding under her blanket, and starts to apologize. He mentions that Luna wouldn't want her boyfriend's voice being heard. Luna questions this but Naoto continues, saying he heard a man's voice thinking Luna's got herself a new boyfriend. Luna immediately corrects Naoto and tells him that it wasn't a boyfriend's voice that Naoto heard.

Luna, embarrased, and making sure there's no more misunderstanding between them confesses to Naoto that she was watching porn on her phone and masturbating the whole time.

Luna claims she's been doing it with earphones on, and panics if her earphones are broken. Naoto recalling to himself that this is the only time he heard a man's voice. Relieved after knowing the truth, he starts thinking of asking Luna about that one time Luna was seemingly "kissing someone" by a door. Before he could start, Luna cuts him off saying that everything so far is Naoto's fault.

She thought at first that it would just be a bigger Naoto from her past who would be staying with her, but she found a completely different Naoto instead. She tries to not notice it, but her feelings and body just couldn't help it, and so she goes at it alone.

Luna adds that because of what Naoto told Ryuuji, Luna hid the truth from him. Naoto sees it as Luna being conscious of Naoto as a member of the opposite sex and asks her if this was the case. Luna blushes as if he got it correct, and Naoto smiles.

Luna pounces on Naoto for smiling, and starts to deliver the weakest ground-and-pound from full mount, while saying she doesn't want Naoto to hate her. Naoto with a smug face, reassures her that he won't hate Luna no matter how perverted of a person she turns out to be. Luna claims he doesn't know that for sure, claiming that she might be more lewd than Naoto thinks, bringing us right back to this very spread. Naoto then asks her what if he still doesn't hate her despite it.

Chapter ends with Luna telling him that when the time comes, she'll tell him the reason why she stopped visiting the countryside during summer, she will tell him 'the secret that Luna had hidden from Nao-kun'.

Now, I'm terrified of knowing the secret. Gosh... please don't be a trainwreck.