Kuse Tsuyo Kanojo wa Toko ni Izanau - Ch. 7

[arcosapphire]

It's okay brother, it's not childish. It's what they call aversion to sluts. There's nothing wrong with it, it's an instinct for normal people, since you care for her as a childhood friend and crush but at the same time you can't accept that she is a slut. It's a hard pill to swallow. Best outcome would be that you overcome your soyness and get a part-time and actually move the f*ck out of that apartment. But then again, this a that kind of manga that appeal to cucks so I have no hope for you, brother. lol

Jeez, the toxic insecure masculinity in this comment.

 

[Lex27]

Jeez, the toxic insecure masculinity in this comment.

Jeez, the toxic insecure femininity in this comment.

 

[hawkflights]

most cigarettes taste awful it the warm smoke going in lungs and going out of them that feels too damn good for anyone's good

(but yeah clove sigs are not as bitter, as generally all scented sigs)

Menthol is vile, though, as another commenter said. I can't even stand filtered cigs any longer, the plasticky taste of the filter is overwhelming once you've become accustomed to smoking without one. I sure like smoking, but most cigarettes taste just terrible. (The ones that don't, though, are the ones I can't give up.)

 

[animan095]

DO IT BOY! TAKE WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY YOURS! MAKE US PROUD!

 

[volodyuka]

Menthol is vile, though, as another commenter said. I can't even stand filtered cigs any longer, the plasticky taste of the filter is overwhelming once you've become accustomed to smoking without one. I sure like smoking, but most cigarettes taste just terrible. (The ones that don't, though, are the ones I can't give up.)

well, I agree on chemical taste of some filtered cigs, but menthol/mint cigs are mostly a "taste" thing, some ppl love them, some not. I did quite enjoyed smoking indonesian cloves + menthol cigarettes of a brand I completely forgotten

 

[laeus]

The longer her life remains mysterious, the less chance there is of her being a prostitute.

She has almost masturbated in his bed, so it is quite possible that she is obsessed with him. The biggest mystery in reality is what her fetish is, if she has one, since that seems to be the theme of the story.

Something I've been thinking since the beginning is that it could all be a fake, from the moaning, the open condom and the supposed guy entering the house with a kiss. To make him jealous? Must have some fetish like that, since 2 of the 3 girls have tendencies towards sadism

 

[Iamcheater]

Honest due to the author past works I don't think he would go into this genre,but who knows could've change due to what's popular I guess,we will find out or maybe never to keep up the suspense

Um, past works? You mean the like the manga with the girl that does sexual stuff with a boy, they fall in love but they are not together and then boy NTRs her with other girls (one of them is her best friend) and then they fight forget about it and get together properly? Those past works??

 

[Iamcheater]

I'll just flop this down here...
The first half of the next chapter has a lot going on for it for once.

Spoiler: 8.1

Short spoiler: We still won't reach the truth, bite-girl returns, Luna's full name is (染谷月)Someya Luna.
Long spoiler: Naoto went for the suck, but as the laws of love-comedy protagonists calls for, he doesn't actually know how to give Luna a hickey of his own. Luna, ever spoiling the MC, interprets the whole thing as him doing his old habit of diving to her chest whenever a lightning strike scared him when they were kids. Naoto separates, and Luna asks if perhaps he's homesick. Naoto resolves to stop being childish and went to sleep without taking a shower, while Luna took a shower and resolves to be like a mother to Naoto just to spoil him even harder, the mystery of the mark was never solved.

MC is downed with a fever, as one does after being exposed to anime/manga rain. This made Luna concerned, and declared that he should take it easy and rely on her as if she's his mom. Luna heads off to a dorasuto(that's drug store) and literally on her way out, encounters Kawashina. Kawashina was worried and was there to visit the sick MC, conveniently bringing some med supplies, and she introduces herself to Luna. She then asks if Luna is in a relationship with Naoto, but a flustered and blushing Luna denies it. Luna heads over to another room, and Kawashina continues to nurse the sick Naoto.

While wiping down Naoto's sweat, she couldn't resist and lightly bit his stomach. She is snapped back to reality by Luna saying that the rice porridge is done, and asks her to taste it. As Kawashina leaves at noon, relieved knowing that Naoto is not in a relationship and that she still has a chance, she was stopped by Luna. Luna tells her to call her 'Luna', because she's not used to being called by her family name, Someya. This triggered a quick flashback to the bite of chapter 5, and it turned out that Luna was nearby when it happened. The chapter ends with Kawashina learning that Someya Luna and Naoto's "Luna-nee" is the same person.

I always appreciate your previews bro. Don't know if you know the other language that always preceeds the eng translation, but you are always spot on.

Thank you and please continue doing them, definitely greatly appreciated.

 

[Iamcheater]

The copium in these threads always cracks me up. 😆

For some reason ppl really buy into the "she's a virgin", "it's just her job as eroge VA", "she didn't kiss that boy in the past, he was just blowing some dirt out of her eye", "that condom was just Christmas decoration/she used the condom on a vibrator", "she was drinking water, not kissing somebody behind the door", "that's a bruise on her collarbone, not a hickey" and all that from an author that has already published previous work with NTR injected into it, in a slapstick rom-com manner.

At which point does the copium inhalation stop?

 

[shinya78]

I always appreciate your previews bro. Don't know if you know the other language that always preceeds the eng translation, but you are always spot on.

I can read Japanese, so I can opt to read raws depending on availability.

Spoiler: 8.2

Short spoiler: Still not reaching the truth, there may or may not be progress, sick and half-asleep MC > usual MC.

Long spoiler: We continue with Luna feeding MC the porridge, and a quick flashback to their past where MC eats snacks as soon as he buys them because Luna would usually eat them. Luna told him that if the snacks were so important, he should do something about it. Back to the present with the bowl finished, it's time to take meds. MC says he'll take them later and goes to sleep, but Luna thinks otherwise. Luna then forces the medicine on to Naoto via mouth-to-mouth.

Half-asleep, MC wonders if he's dreaming, and thinks that he shouldn't hold back if he is. He beckons Luna for more, and she obliges, with her face visibly blushing every time she gives him a drink via mouth-to-mouth.

MC, still half-asleep recalls back to what he's gonna do to his important stuff so that they won't get taken away. He's going to mark them. He follows through with his last attempt, and actually managed to give Luna a hickey. Satisfied with marking his "treasure", he goes back to sleep, leaving a blushing and confused Luna.

Luna, although initially thinking Naoto was just being homesick, now thinks he actually wants some intimacy. Thinking that because he lives with her, he can't do stuff to satisfy that need, to the point that he's so pent up that he did what he just did to her. Blushing and with her heart pounding after recalling what just happened, we end the chapter with Luna, flushed and feeling hot all of a sudden, wondering if she caught Naoto's cold.

 

[OliveOilOilOil]

Why do this feel like a what if all of Hideki’s crazy FMCs were to make a move on our MC

 

[RedNanaki]

I love how the author ignores her mark and like we all don’t know she is white lol

 

[Iamcheater]

I can read Japanese, so I can opt to read raws depending on availability.

Spoiler: 8.2

Short spoiler: Still not reaching the truth, there may or may not be progress, sick and half-asleep MC > usual MC.

Long spoiler: We continue with Luna feeding MC the porridge, and a quick flashback to their past where MC eats snacks as soon as he buys them because Luna would usually eat them. Luna told him that if the snacks were so important, he should do something about it. Back to the present with the bowl finished, it's time to take meds. MC says he'll take them later and goes to sleep, but Luna thinks otherwise. Luna then forces the medicine on to Naoto via mouth-to-mouth.

Half-asleep, MC wonders if he's dreaming, and thinks that he shouldn't hold back if he is. He beckons Luna for more, and she obliges, with her face visibly blushing every time she gives him a drink via mouth-to-mouth.

MC, still half-asleep recalls back to what he's gonna do to his important stuff so that they won't get taken away. He's going to mark them. He follows through with his last attempt, and actually managed to give Luna a hickey. Satisfied with marking his "treasure", he goes back to sleep, leaving a blushing and confused Luna.

Luna, although initially thinking Naoto was just being homesick, now thinks he actually wants some intimacy. Thinking that because he lives with her, he can't do stuff to satisfy that need, to the point that he's so pent up that he did what he just did to her. Blushing and with her heart pounding after recalling what just happened, we end the chapter with Luna, flushed and feeling hot all of a sudden, wondering if she caught Naoto's cold.

Wow.... This author is doubling down on the secrecy. It's terrible that she leads him on like this without clarifying if she's fucking other ppl or just one boyfriend. Either way she's doing something so she should have come clean by now, not continue this cuckery.

Excellent preview bro, so appreciated! Thanks

 

[shinya78]

Wow.... This author is doubling down on the secrecy. It's terrible that she leads him on like this without clarifying if she's fucking other ppl or just one boyfriend. Either way she's doing something so she should have come clean by now, not continue this cuckery.

Spoiler: Anti wall-of-text

Recent chapters ending with a cliffhanger, conveniently followed with a quick time skip, then continuing on as if the last chapter's cliffhanger is of no importance. From the last chapter, one would expect Hiba (snake lady) would do something to the MC immediately come chapter 7 that could give light of what other stuff in the apartment is actually hers and not Luna's, but nope, instead we get MC buying cigs at a convenience store on a later date. With these unnecessary time skips completely omitting what could be important details, and plot point details that are pointed out for the readers seemingly ignored by the characters for whatever reason, one would think the author is avoiding writing anything that would lead to the truth like the plague on purpose.

We get that the whole point of the initial hook was "Is the quirky fMC a slut or not?", but 8 months of not even a hint of an irrefutable confirmation/conclusion of the initial hook would turn away most readers. Everything so far can be taken either direction simply by the fact that nothing is explicitly shown to the readers outside the MC imagining what's happening. Readers can either Joseph Joestar plot armor their way into a conclusion where Luna isn't a slut, or take the boring route and just conclude that she is one then and there. But because nothing is explicitly confirmed, either conclusion's technically valid. The whole "Schrödinger's Slut" bit has been going on far too long, and the only readers left to even bother at this point are the ones that are in too deep, sunk cost fallacy and all that.

It's like with Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san, but instead of "will they, or will they not?", it's "is the fMC a slut/is the MC getting NTR'd, or not?". The long-term reader teasing in Takagi-san works because the hook isn't as "extreme", and the readers got their conclusion relatively early, changing its initial hook from "will they?", to "when and how". As a prime example of the journey having more importance than the destination, the readers are guaranteed a payoff, and how they finally get there is the culmination of all the wait and teasing.

Here, we're threading murky waters, to a destination obscured by a thick fog, while under the effects of some sort of hallucinogen.

Excellent preview bro, so appreciated! Thanks

Tbh, I'd rather go back to just paying attention to the supernatural Luna theory instead. I wouldn't bother writing them if it weren't for the whole ongoing Schrödinger's Slut bit going for way too long. It's also the reason why the short spoiler always starts by answering the question "Has the truth been revealed yet?". The long spoiler, which is behind a second layer of spoiler protection, is there for those who really want to read spoilers. Can't really blame them if they get tempted by the Vietnamese scans, which releases by parts, when they release their work mere hours after the raw comes out. People can choose to read just the short spoiler, maybe sparing them some frustration in the process, then fully enjoy the translated chapters with a clear mind when they come out.

At this point, I expect a callback to the first few pages of chapter 1 by chapter 9.2, but then again, never reaching the truth is always an option.

 

[Iamcheater]

Spoiler: Anti wall-of-text

Recent chapters ending with a cliffhanger, conveniently followed with a quick time skip, then continuing on as if the last chapter's cliffhanger is of no importance. From the last chapter, one would expect Hiba (snake lady) would do something to the MC immediately come chapter 7 that could give light of what other stuff in the apartment is actually hers and not Luna's, but nope, instead we get MC buying cigs at a convenience store on a later date. With these unnecessary time skips completely omitting what could be important details, and plot point details that are pointed out for the readers seemingly ignored by the characters for whatever reason, one would think the author is avoiding writing anything that would lead to the truth like the plague on purpose.

We get that the whole point of the initial hook was "Is the quirky fMC a slut or not?", but 8 months of not even a hint of an irrefutable confirmation/conclusion of the initial hook would turn away most readers. Everything so far can be taken either direction simply by the fact that nothing is explicitly shown to the readers outside the MC imagining what's happening. Readers can either Joseph Joestar plot armor their way into a conclusion where Luna isn't a slut, or take the boring route and just conclude that she is one then and there. But because nothing is explicitly confirmed, either conclusion's technically valid. The whole "Schrödinger's Slut" bit has been going on far too long, and the only readers left to even bother at this point are the ones that are in too deep, sunk cost fallacy and all that.

It's like with Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san, but instead of "will they, or will they not?", it's "is the fMC a slut/is the MC getting NTR'd, or not?". The long-term reader teasing in Takagi-san works because the hook isn't as "extreme", and the readers got their conclusion relatively early, changing its initial hook from "will they?", to "when and how". As a prime example of the journey having more importance than the destination, the readers are guaranteed a payoff, and how they finally get there is the culmination of all the wait and teasing.

Here, we're threading murky waters, to a destination obscured by a thick fog, while under the effects of some sort of hallucinogen.

Tbh, I'd rather go back to just paying attention to the supernatural Luna theory instead. I wouldn't bother writing them if it weren't for the whole ongoing Schrödinger's Slut bit going for way too long. It's also the reason why the short spoiler always starts by answering the question "Has the truth been revealed yet?". The long spoiler, which is behind a second layer of spoiler protection, is there for those who really want to read spoilers. Can't really blame them if they get tempted by the Vietnamese scans, which releases by parts, when they release their work mere hours after the raw comes out. People can choose to read just the short spoiler, maybe sparing them some frustration in the process, then fully enjoy the translated chapters with a clear mind when they come out.

At this point, I expect a callback to the first few pages of chapter 1 by chapter 9.2, but then again, never reaching the truth is always an option.

I am sorry but I just don't believe, an author that has already dabbled in NTR would opt not to do it again in a manga with similar tags as his past work. It's NTR until proven otherwise. And mind you it didn't start as NTR, cause if she was fucking somebody and the MC was just sad, then there's nothing he can do, they were not together to begin with. But after the events where she sexually teased him when she went to put him to sleep, mastrubated thinking about him and all the shit she did in your latest preview, yeah it's now NTR until proven otherwise.

I would like to wear my cope armour and cope cape and keep pushing through the chapters believing she's a virgin, devoted to MC, everything was a misunderstanding, she's a VA etc but the evidence plus author's past, similar works, show a different pattern. And for me this is pattern recognition.

 

[shinya78]

I am sorry but I just don't believe, an author that has already dabbled in NTR would opt not to do it again in a manga with similar tags as his past work. It's NTR until proven otherwise. And mind you it didn't start as NTR, cause if she was fucking somebody and the MC was just sad, then there's nothing he can do, they were not together to begin with. But after the events where she sexually teased him when she went to put him to sleep, mastrubated thinking about him and all the shit she did in your latest preview, yeah it's now NTR until proven otherwise.

I would like to wear my cope armour and cope cape and keep pushing through the chapters believing she's a virgin, devoted to MC, everything was a misunderstanding, she's a VA etc but the evidence plus author's past, similar works, show a different pattern. And for me this is pattern recognition.

A valid interpretation, the same way "it isn't NTR until proven otherwise" is. The main issue here is nothing is being explicitly shown to prove or disprove the allegations. A condom wrapper here, an adult toy there, sure. But have we, the readers, been shown the items being used? Just because an author dipped their toes into NTR, doesn't necessarily mean they'll put it on another work, the possibility is there, but until shown otherwise, it remains just that, a possibility.

Spoiler: Anti wall-of-text

With what's already shown, even a completely innocent thing would look like she's doing another thing if we didn't know that she's just eating ice cream while Naoto holds it. Now imagine that scene with the viewpoint only showing Luna and not the ice cream, slap a door in there blocking the view, make her stand in a hallway or something. Seems familiar?

No? Then what if we didn't know that in the bottom panel here, she's licking melted ice cream off Naoto's hand, what's the first thing to come to mind? How about this page alone? If we didn't know that's melted ice cream, what else could that white substance be?

It's the same thing, but for those examples, we are given the answer. The only pattern I'm seeing here is that the author is deliberately not showing what's actually happening, just to mess with the readers. I said it before and I'll say it again, Schrödinger's Slut, is Luna for the streets, or is she not? Naoto himself is leaning towards Luna's banging a guy every night, but is that truly the case? We'll never know which until the author shows us. Until then, whichever way one interprets it is on us, the readers.