Kuzu Rouninsei, Jinsei ga Tsurai no de Yoru no Onee-san wo Yondemita - Ch. 83 - Fight With the Scumbag

[Kaguya-Sama]

Mashiro should've used that 'Trust' card fucking two chapters ago. Hell, she isn't wrong about what she said in this chapter but like when your partner saw you are spreading your leg in front of the person that said partner has already misunderstood your relationship, what did she expect? Did she seriously expect to Makino of all people to be calm? And yes, Makino basically called her a 'whore'. That's totally on Makino but girl, you should've pushed that truest issue TWO chapters ago.

I'll honesty be pissed if Makino apologize to Mashiro but Mashiro doesn't. Because they both need to apologize to each other.

 

[chusetto]

Erm, this time I kinda get Scumgirl's perspective

 

[undeadclown]

I'll honesty be pissed if Makino apologize to Mashiro but Mashiro doesn't. Because they both need to apologize to each other.

This is my big problem with the structure of this chapter. Making Makino say mean things makes it seem like the author wants us to think she's the only one in the wrong and what Mashiro did was totally fine and Makino was being entirely unreasonable. If that's how this conflict is resolved it's going to leave a majorly bad taste in my mouth. If they both apologize I'll feel a bit better about it.

Also nice pfp. Firefly is best girl.

 

[nicoelson]

Mashiro did nothing wrong. Her house, her rules. It's all on Makino being an ungrateful unfaithful bitch, as always. And let's hope she stays that way.

 

[undeadclown]

Mashiro did nothing wrong. Her house, her rules. It's all on Makino being an ungrateful unfaithful bitch, as always. And let's hope she stays that way.

Did you mix up their names? Understandable, I know, since they're so similar. But I don't see how Makino could ever be called unfaithful since it was Mashiro showing her pussy to another girl.

 

[Akaishishi]

Gaslighting : manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.

 

[nicoelson]

Did you mix up their names? Understandable, I know, since they're so similar. But I don't see how Makino could ever be called unfaithful since it was Mashiro showing her pussy to another girl.

Nothing morally wrong with just showing. Makino should learn to believe in her loved one.

 

[Tcof]

Honestly, how is the "bring over a lesbian, show her your crotch" even happen in the first place ?
Isn't Makino is suppose to be the brain rot one ?

 

[Azalel]

If Makino is made to apologize for anything she said when Mashiro went behind her back after Makino said she is uncomfortable with that girl and invited her into their room only when Makino was out deliberately, then flashed her pussy like it was nothing while in a relationship that is NOT open then i will lose hope for this manga, no human on earth would think anything different while seeing what Makino saw and yet Mashiro tries to act like she did nothing wrong.

There is no way that girl wouldn't be able to find the stuff she needs online and Mashiro could have easily shown her pictures of what she is talking about online instead of flashing herself, i guess she has hard time understanding being in 1 on 1 relationship.

 

[SrNevik]

Honestly, how is the "bring over a lesbian, show her your crotch" even happen in the first place ?
Isn't Makino is suppose to be the brain rot one ?

The "bringing over a lesbian" is normal; she's a friend and mentor offering advice to someone seeking guidance. That part isn't unusual.

The "showing" could have been a momentary lapse in judgment or a quick decision—perhaps something she was comfortable doing with other industry friends when asked for work advice. However, it's understandably uncomfortable to Makino.

 

[MacMeaties]

"if you actually loved me" levels of gaslighting right there.

 

[Manko-sensei]

Funny how Makino still lives up to her name (Kuzu), no one can beat her in selfishness and being self-centred! At this point it literally can be said that Mashiro deserves more love, Makino's being neglecting her to the point of feeling lonely and who knows to what point would keep prioritising some videogame before Mashiro if it weren't because her possessiveness has kicked off in this arc. Let's see if Makino for once solves this properly or she may even lose Mashiro forever.

 

[AkodoRyu]

The author really picked the worst thing possible for her to say, so that the fight is mutual.

Literally, any other option would put Mashiro as the only one at fault, no questions asked. This, in turn, would make out MC not-a-scumbag, which is obviously unacceptable.

 

[GooseBolt]

Not a huge fan of this conflict as it feels forced with the lack of common sense but I understand it's purpose of the stigma that industry leaves. Although I feel there could've been a better narrative choice then this very weak yet explosive drama. These two have already been extremely communicative before, why was that lacking here?

 

[Mangamoz]

Author being a disingenuous writer with how they forced Makino to come out as the "bad girl" in this scandal to allow Mashiro to be seen as the "good girl".

 

[Lunkli]

Yeah, Makino’s in the right here. And what she said isn’t necessarily incorrect. A normal person would not be comfortable showing a near stranger their crotch like that, regardless of whether or not they had underwear on. Mashiro has likely become desensitized to it because of her (old) job.

 

[Metallicity]

Everyone feeling "betrayed" on Makino's behalf (despite her figuring out fairly quickly she misunderstood and reacted poorly, with far less context to go off of) isn't just insulting Mashiro, but Hotaru as well. She wasn't trying to have sex with Mashiro, she had an embarrassing question that she wasn't sure who to ask, and then got an actually useful answer. And rather than being too deeply ashamed to discuss the female body or personal grooming, Mashiro was fine showing the shaving pattern she was describing by pointing out exactly how it would go on her own body. But since Hotaru is a lesbian pervert, she obviously can't be trusted to look at another woman's body in any sort of non-sexual context.

 

[ugajoe1]

God of gaslighting

 

[Weebshit5149]

They didn't have a constructive and clear discussion a few chapters ago and that's been the lingering issue. It opened the door to the miscommunication that's happened.

Now they actually need to fully talk, rather than Makino (understandably) dominating the conversation and unilaterally ending it like she did last time when Mashiro barely got a word in, despite her own reservations.

A miscommunication and difference in outlook based on life experience is less bad than calling your loving GF "easy," because of her previous work. The implications of that common thought process are potentially more damaging.

I'm very glad the author is calling that out (since it's quite pervasive in real life), using Mashiro's good character to do so like always. Both of them made mistakes here though, clearly. I'm sure they'll say that whenever they calm down.

Bruh... No is no. No I'm not comfortable with that. No amount of "constructive talk" is changing a clear and absolute No... that's like saying no means yes if you keep asking till they give in... If your allergic to pickles and the waiter goes "oh but youll like they way we do them" your still fuckin allergic.. then that waiter gets mad at you for having anaphylactic shock; the waiter is probably an asshole

 

[Weebshit5149]

Everyone feeling "betrayed" on Makino's behalf (despite her figuring out fairly quickly she misunderstood and reacted poorly, with far less context to go off of) isn't just insulting Mashiro, but Hotaru as well. She wasn't trying to have sex with Mashiro, she had an embarrassing question that she wasn't sure who to ask, and then got an actually useful answer. And rather than being too deeply ashamed to discuss the female body or personal grooming, Mashiro was fine showing the shaving pattern she was describing by pointing out exactly how it would go on her own body. But since Hotaru is a lesbian pervert, she obviously can't be trusted to look at another woman's body in any sort of non-sexual context.

But would you be comfortable with your partner doing the same thing if you already asked them to avoid the other person.