Maou ni Natta node, Dungeon Tsukutte Jingai Musume to Honobono suru - Vol. 9 Ch. 58.2

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How difficult is it to take the concept of 1 actual "full" chapter? My god, you're trying to make things more complicated than it should be. Like you actually have a decent argument in the 1st sentence but you have to make things obtuse...

Making the last chapter be the "final" subchapter of 57 would make that a "build up" making it the complaints actually about wasting the build up valid... but it's the "start" subchapter of 58 which means the "build up" is as good as a commercial break...
Since you bring forth nothing that would make my last post invalid I'll just say

P.s. You know, I won't leave it at that. Because you are wrong. A commercial break is 5 minutes and even then there can be buildup. Have you never seen a cliffhanger right before the commercials that gets resolved afterwards? That is the definition of buildup and payoff.
 
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Have you not heard of Overlord essentially overhauling a lot of things from WN in the LN? WN to LN often time gets the most changes, and then manga usually gets "shortcutted" while anime is the wild west on what changes can happen.
Remember if your source is the WN there's like 80% chance it's changed.


Notice the .1? You'd think that's to mean this and the previous "chapter" belongs in the same actual full chapter thus making the "build up" actually "nonexistent".
i'm not current on that, what happened with overlord?, i mean, what's the original format of it and the progression?, is it LN->WN->manga->anime?
 
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A commercial break is 5 minutes and even then there can be buildup. Have you never seen a cliffhanger right before the commercials that gets resolved afterwards? That is the definition of buildup and payoff.
That isn't called "buildup and payoff" that's called marketing since that's where they put the most "expensive" paying ads and a lot of them, like cliffhangers on commercial breaks are the most aggravating waste since most of the time it's for a 1~2 minute "resolution" that isn't worth the wait since it's most likely gonna be included in the next episode's "previously"
 
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i'm not current on that, what happened with overlord?, i mean, what's the original format of it and the progression?, is it LN->WN->manga->anime?
Almost always the format of things is:
WN -> LN -> manga -> anime

There are very few exceptions to this but the commonality is WN are most of the time the "rough draft" of story, LN is done after or during WN is being done but with the help of an editor to polish the WN.
 
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That isn't called "buildup and payoff" that's called marketing since that's where they put the most "expensive" paying ads and a lot of them, like cliffhangers on commercial breaks are the most aggravating waste since most of the time it's for a 1~2 minute "resolution" that isn't worth the wait since it's most likely gonna be included in the next episode's "previously"
Yeah, I'm gonna stop arguing with you, because it's getting increasingly idiotic. Between "buildup and payoff" and "marketing" one is a narration technique and one is a process that uses (among other things) said narration technique.
Go on, answer to this post in whatever way you want and be happy to have the last word.
 
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Yeah, I'm gonna stop arguing with you, because it's getting increasingly idiotic. Between "buildup and payoff" and "marketing" one is a narration technique and one is a process that uses (among other things) said narration technique.
Go on, answer to this post in whatever way you want and be happy to have the last word.
Most of the time, it's not the scanlation group (this is almost NEVER the case despite reader accusations) OR the artist/author/mangaka splitting up chapters. It's the publisher.

Different publishers do it in different ways. Some like to split up a single monthly chapter into 4 parts and post 1 part every week. Some like to split a single monthly chapter into 3 parts and release one every two weeks to build up a bit of buffer to cover necessary artist breaks/vacations. Most simply split a chapter in two pieces.

There can even be a difference in how they are published online versus in the magazine. The break into 4 parts I mentioned is usually just one chapter in a monthly physical magazine. I've seen biweekly Magazines do it both ways--split up the chapter in the magazine so it has content every issue and keeping chapters as a single piece but only including it every other issue.

There is one thing that remains nearly constant for all of these--the full volume release very rarely breaks up chapters. Usually, the only subchapters are extra ".5" chapters.

For this manga, most of the .1s and .2s pretty obviously were a single chapter due to the lack of transitions, splash pages, etc. Chapter 58 is the only one I've seen where it was even possible that they could have been written as separate chapters.
 
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People complaining about other stories wasting too much time on unimportant fights are missing the point. Yes it’s nice that we didn’t get that here, but we still had all that wasted time, it was just used on the build up, which is arguably worse. So much build up for a rushed ending has historically not been the best storytelling device.
 

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