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Marika-chan to Yasashii Koi no Dorei - Vol. 2 Ch. 5
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I still find having a crush on a 8 years old girl is unusual (I don't get attracted on younger people, and it's a kid dude), 6 years gap is not really a problem. I prefer older person, so I don't mind 8 years gap to umm 10 years?? My point is as long as Marika is on the legal age, don't worry too much because you don't have a big age gap. I guess having feelings for younger ones are tough huh.
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Oh yeah, that's the problem I've been cringing when I was reading this chap. Marika was only 8 years old. He should be worried about the fact that he's attracted to an 8 years old lmao it's weirder than that sensei 😂 I don't mind age gap but... 8 years old girl is too much (like grade 3???!)
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Oh yeah, that's the problem I've been cringing when I was reading this chap. Marika was only 8 years old. He should be worried about the fact that he's attracted to an 8 years old lmao it's weirder than that sensei 😂 I don't mind age gap but... 8 years old girl is too much (like grade 3???!)
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Wow i never though the author would explaining things in such a good way. This really adressing the problem, even though the present age gap is an okay but the moment he fell in love is when she was still a child (12 years old). Imagine if you are a college student and falling in love with 6 grade elementary school or 1st year middle schooler especially there is a case with his sensei in his high school. It is going to haunt you forever, and the only way for this to be resolved is from Marika ends to give him an assurance that they can love each other.
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I don't think he is a pedophile, because while, yes, he fell for her when she was 12, he STILL loves her until now, a legal adult. A pedophile is someone that has a romantic and/ or sexual attraction towards someone that is underage ONLY. Usually, the pedophiles I see in the news are always targeting, grooming, and molesting underage kids, they rarely continue their "relationship" after the victim is a legal adult, if they DO continue it, the pedophile will always cut off the now legal adult after finding a new underage victim. In this manga, he is attracted to Marika and Marika alone, the unfortunate parts are that he developed his attraction towards her when they were both just kids and their age gap. Fortunately, Yuu realized that he needs to distance himself from Marika, so that no one will fall victim and become an offender unintentionally and he won't cause something that will harm both of them in the eyes of law and the public. This desperation from Yuu to distance himself from Marika made a dent on his relationship and how he views Marika, he still carries unnecessary guilt of loving a minor, because Marika has already reached Japan's legal age and is actively approaching him.
And the way I see it, as long as both parties are of legal age and consent to a relationship, no matter how small or huge the age gap they have, is fine and nothing to be frowned upon (in the eyes of law). My dad's colleague (male mid 40s) married a beautiful and intelligent woman (in her 20s). My mom's friend and her husband has an age gap of 11 years, their daughter is indifferent towards huge age gaps but still knows and aware of the legal age required. I just hope Yuu realizes that he doesn't have to be wary anymore and his love is now legal and justified to pursue!
This is so sad.... Alexa, play despacito.
And the way I see it, as long as both parties are of legal age and consent to a relationship, no matter how small or huge the age gap they have, is fine and nothing to be frowned upon (in the eyes of law). My dad's colleague (male mid 40s) married a beautiful and intelligent woman (in her 20s). My mom's friend and her husband has an age gap of 11 years, their daughter is indifferent towards huge age gaps but still knows and aware of the legal age required. I just hope Yuu realizes that he doesn't have to be wary anymore and his love is now legal and justified to pursue!
This is so sad.... Alexa, play despacito.
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@RozuArison08 Bruh he did not have a crush on her when she was 8. That's when they first met. He started realizing he loved her when she was abt 11-12 and he was in high school. (all boys think with their lower head at that age tbh) Obviously it's weird af for a high schooler to like a 12 yr old and he recognized that. But the point is he likes her as a person and not cuz of her age. If he was pedo he wouldnt be in love with her cuz theyre both in their 20s now
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I'll still continue reading since it's not yet bending my moral compass. I mean yes, seeing him liking a literal 12 year-old perplexed me and makes me cringe but the fact that he doesn't habitually go for 12 year-olds and only loves Marika alone gives me a greater understanding of what he loves. He doesn't love her 12 year-old body and mind, what he loves is her as a whole being aka her soul. also, they're both consenting adults by now, he left her alone because he knew going after her at such a young age is predatory but now she's telling him that she loves her so HE BETTER GETS HIS SH{T TOGETHER.
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Ages: (中学, Middle School) from 12 to 15. (高校, High school) from 15 to 18. least age gap: 3 years highest possible age gap: 6 years (this gap is more probable.)
I'm pretty sure he started liking her when she's 12 and he's 15 since he started to distance himself once HS started.
I'm pretty sure he started liking her when she's 12 and he's 15 since he started to distance himself once HS started.
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@aikarosei it's literally mentioned in the chap their age gap is 6 years
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@comedyxtragedy yeah, age gap becomes more acceptable as you grow older, because it's not so much about a gap in age as it is about a gap in maturity. There is a massive difference between a 10 years old and a 20 years old. One is an adult, the other is a kid. But there isn't that much of a difference between a 60 years old and a 50 years old. Both are adults.
I also agree that this isn't all black or white, we're in a situation where there is a moral dilemma. The fact that he was attracted to her as a kid is fucked up, and it's normal for him to be disgusted by himself for it. It's pedophilia we're talking about after all. He understood how wrong he was and distanced himself from her. Then she came back to him, and now he is realizing he still have a crush on her. The situation is different from the previous situation, because they are both adults now. But the girl is the same girl, and he realizes he's attracted to her only when she acts more like her childhood self.
If I was in his position I wouldn't have pursued the relationship, because I think the moral orders me to drop it. He fell in love with her when she was a kid, which makes the whole relationship fucked up. But there is indeed room for discussion, it's a grey area.
@RozuArison08 he started having a crush on her when she was 11~12, which is still pretty bad.
@metta0king you're missing the point though. Whether he is attracted to Marika and Marika alone or to all children, the fact remains that he was still sexually attracted by a kid as an adult. That's definitely what we call a pedophile. Your definition of a pedophile is so wrong that I have no idea what went through your head when you wrote it. You said "a pedophile is someone that has a romantic and/ or sexual attraction towards someone that is underage ONLY". Well, let's say someone is sexually attracted to both adults and little kids. With your definition that doesn't make him a pedophile just because he also likes adults...? Wtf? That's wrong on so many levels. A pedophile is someone who is attracted to kids. Whether he is also attracted to adults or not is irrelevant. Whether he is attracted to ALL children or just one child is also irrelevant.
You're also missing the point when you talk about age gap. Because the problem isn't the age gap itself, it's about liking a child. If you're 30 years old and you are attracted to a 20 years old girl, it's fine because you are attracted to an adult. But if you are 20 years old and you are attracted to a 10 years old girl, you are attracted to a kid and that makes you a pedophile, even though the age gap is the same. You could legally "wait until she becomes older", but that's fucked up. Instead you should ask yourself : why were you attracted to this kid in the first place? The answer is necessarily because you're a pedophile, because normal people can't be sexually and/or romantically attracted to a kid. And it doesn't matter whether you have a sexual attraction to all children or just one child. It's still pedophilia and it's 100% fucked up.
Now sure they are both adults, and going out with her would be legal. But the question remains : would that be moral? This is still the one girl he fell in love with when she was a kid, he was a pedophile in love with her. The moral dilemma is insanely strong.
He can't even hide it since she knows he fell in love with her when she was a kid. She seems to be absolutely clueless about the implications of it (which, imo, is the one flaw of this manga: the girl seems clueless about the fact that the guy was a pedo, she's 20 years old but she still doesn't understand how bad it was), but she might realize it one day.
So yeah, it's not as easy as "yeah she's legal now, let's smash". There is a real moral question behind it : a pedophile realized how fucked up he was, distanced himself from the girl he was attracted to, and meet her again 8 years later. Should he date her? The answer is neither a hard yes or a hard no. It's a hard question that shouldn't be oversimplified. So far the author made a good job with explaining the dilemma behind it, I hope this doesn't change tbh.
I also agree that this isn't all black or white, we're in a situation where there is a moral dilemma. The fact that he was attracted to her as a kid is fucked up, and it's normal for him to be disgusted by himself for it. It's pedophilia we're talking about after all. He understood how wrong he was and distanced himself from her. Then she came back to him, and now he is realizing he still have a crush on her. The situation is different from the previous situation, because they are both adults now. But the girl is the same girl, and he realizes he's attracted to her only when she acts more like her childhood self.
If I was in his position I wouldn't have pursued the relationship, because I think the moral orders me to drop it. He fell in love with her when she was a kid, which makes the whole relationship fucked up. But there is indeed room for discussion, it's a grey area.
@RozuArison08 he started having a crush on her when she was 11~12, which is still pretty bad.
@metta0king you're missing the point though. Whether he is attracted to Marika and Marika alone or to all children, the fact remains that he was still sexually attracted by a kid as an adult. That's definitely what we call a pedophile. Your definition of a pedophile is so wrong that I have no idea what went through your head when you wrote it. You said "a pedophile is someone that has a romantic and/ or sexual attraction towards someone that is underage ONLY". Well, let's say someone is sexually attracted to both adults and little kids. With your definition that doesn't make him a pedophile just because he also likes adults...? Wtf? That's wrong on so many levels. A pedophile is someone who is attracted to kids. Whether he is also attracted to adults or not is irrelevant. Whether he is attracted to ALL children or just one child is also irrelevant.
You're also missing the point when you talk about age gap. Because the problem isn't the age gap itself, it's about liking a child. If you're 30 years old and you are attracted to a 20 years old girl, it's fine because you are attracted to an adult. But if you are 20 years old and you are attracted to a 10 years old girl, you are attracted to a kid and that makes you a pedophile, even though the age gap is the same. You could legally "wait until she becomes older", but that's fucked up. Instead you should ask yourself : why were you attracted to this kid in the first place? The answer is necessarily because you're a pedophile, because normal people can't be sexually and/or romantically attracted to a kid. And it doesn't matter whether you have a sexual attraction to all children or just one child. It's still pedophilia and it's 100% fucked up.
Now sure they are both adults, and going out with her would be legal. But the question remains : would that be moral? This is still the one girl he fell in love with when she was a kid, he was a pedophile in love with her. The moral dilemma is insanely strong.
He can't even hide it since she knows he fell in love with her when she was a kid. She seems to be absolutely clueless about the implications of it (which, imo, is the one flaw of this manga: the girl seems clueless about the fact that the guy was a pedo, she's 20 years old but she still doesn't understand how bad it was), but she might realize it one day.
So yeah, it's not as easy as "yeah she's legal now, let's smash". There is a real moral question behind it : a pedophile realized how fucked up he was, distanced himself from the girl he was attracted to, and meet her again 8 years later. Should he date her? The answer is neither a hard yes or a hard no. It's a hard question that shouldn't be oversimplified. So far the author made a good job with explaining the dilemma behind it, I hope this doesn't change tbh.
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This is really good. I'm surprised to be honest.
I like how Yuu actually realized that his feelings for Marika when he was a teenager and she was still a child were wrong and had to figure things out while distancing himself. He didn't act on his base feelings.
Where he was wrong is when he tried to do something gross to push her away. That was fucked up. He didn't have to do that.
But now, they are both adults. Having feelings for her now is fine, a six year age gap is nothing. No one is doing anything wrong, but I hope the cat and mouse game continues for a bit because Marika trying to pretend she's a dom is hilarious.
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I like how Yuu actually realized that his feelings for Marika when he was a teenager and she was still a child were wrong and had to figure things out while distancing himself. He didn't act on his base feelings.
Where he was wrong is when he tried to do something gross to push her away. That was fucked up. He didn't have to do that.
But now, they are both adults. Having feelings for her now is fine, a six year age gap is nothing. No one is doing anything wrong, but I hope the cat and mouse game continues for a bit because Marika trying to pretend she's a dom is hilarious.
Thanks for the translation. I'm enjoying this
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It really is, so rare you get a smut targeted towards females manga that can make you think about moral issues like this. I was also surprised how good it was.
I do wonder if their mothers will impact them getting together. I can honestly imagine Marikas mother being creeper out if this were reality. Because it'd make you question whether he had secretly groomed her or not. From the audience perspective we know that's not the case and that's why we can root for Yuu. His attraction although abnormal is not a crime, and he made efforts to control himself from acting upon it whilst she was still vulnerable. That's the difference between him and society's image of "pedophiles" all being sexual predators. As well as the fact that it's only towards her.
I like that how him masturbating turned out to be an intentional action, with both reasons to push her away and tell her how he feels. It's makes for more interesting writing than things happening by mere coincidence and really was the catalyst to Marika still pursuing him today.
It really is, so rare you get a smut targeted towards females manga that can make you think about moral issues like this. I was also surprised how good it was.
I do wonder if their mothers will impact them getting together. I can honestly imagine Marikas mother being creeper out if this were reality. Because it'd make you question whether he had secretly groomed her or not. From the audience perspective we know that's not the case and that's why we can root for Yuu. His attraction although abnormal is not a crime, and he made efforts to control himself from acting upon it whilst she was still vulnerable. That's the difference between him and society's image of "pedophiles" all being sexual predators. As well as the fact that it's only towards her.
I like that how him masturbating turned out to be an intentional action, with both reasons to push her away and tell her how he feels. It's makes for more interesting writing than things happening by mere coincidence and really was the catalyst to Marika still pursuing him today.
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that's the point lol, it was supposed to be fucked up so that Marika would turn herself away from Yuu. He already knew Marika was attracted to him so the only way he could push her away was doing something as wrong as he did (or so he thought at the time)
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I should've read the tags. Oh god, shit hit the fan. For one thing, I think the way they're brought the subject matter, and the fact that he is aware that it is wrong but still is suffering from inner conflict is good.
But for me it's such a 180 from the initial silly smut that I had assumed (my fault I know), there is even this weird implication that them being end game is okay now bc they're both "legal" but at the same time I think I'll feel worse if this was just a silly smut series with him actually masturbating to thoughts of Marika when she was in middle school when he was in University just for the quirky porn they'll be having at this quirky tandem.
Adding actual consequences gives insight on how fucked up that situation was which is props but man.
But for me it's such a 180 from the initial silly smut that I had assumed (my fault I know), there is even this weird implication that them being end game is okay now bc they're both "legal" but at the same time I think I'll feel worse if this was just a silly smut series with him actually masturbating to thoughts of Marika when she was in middle school when he was in University just for the quirky porn they'll be having at this quirky tandem.
Adding actual consequences gives insight on how fucked up that situation was which is props but man.
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