Meguro-san wa Hajimete ja Nai - Vol. 11 Ch. 78

[raddcuban]

Man, I'm tempted to get into it about this trash, but I simply can't be arsed.
Thanks for all the entertaining comments so far and in the future.
Let us meet again in the comments if this hack somehow gets herself published again.

PS. Special thanks to @Tiabii999 for releasing all the lost souls bound to this garbage.

 

[Lex79]

So should I assume that Koga, the protagonist of the series and Meguro's true love, is still basically the only person who didn't have sex with her?
Anyway, as others stated, it wasn't a bad series when it started but then the final arc ruined it, and the ending isn't enough to compensate. Not interested in reading other works from this author if this is what I should expect.

 

[Taq]

What can be said now, at the end? Meguro-san had a narrative.

Truly, it was one of the manga of all time.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

As a teacher, he is extremely talented

Except he isn't because his teachings is what made Meguro almost incapable of functioning as a person like we saw in the entire manga.

And frankly he was teaching her retarded shit to begin with, with the love hotels and porn shit, which is NOT a good way to learn about relationships at all. Unless you're talking about the academics things he taught her which is NOT what she's thanking him for.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

There are hundreds of ways of reaching the same conclusion and progressing Meguro's character without being as retarded as this author was. I don't even think the guy was criminal because both were minors at the time, but hand-waving what he did by splitting his shitty views and his competency as a teacher, treating that as if they're different people makes no sense.

And to top it all, almost zero catharsis from the end. Fuck this shit.

It seems like that's what people want, is for him to go to jail, or something of that magnitude, like, as if Meguro calling him out for his behavior isn't enough.

Nobody, hand-waved off his behavior, though. The teacher who he told about his actions literally said, the way you're acting is going to hurt people, other characters have called him a bad person, and so, nobody, anywhere, not me, or the characters in the story, said he is a good person, as far as a lover, or in general, because he is a teacher.

The post literally says, Meguro calls out what he did as bad, and thanks him for doing his job as a teacher. You have to be able to realize he can be a bad person and still do his job at the same time, and that people can do both good things and bad things at the same time...

Also: Catharsis means the process of releasing, and thereby providing relief from, strong or repressed emotions, and that's literally what the final chapter was about: Meguro and Koga releasing their emotions about dealing with the stress of breaking up and getting back together, and feeling relieved by doing that...

So, once again, not sure what you read, but your criticisms all really just amount to, I didn't like that, which is fine, but calling it "retarded" is unreasonable.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

Except he isn't because his teachings is what made Meguro almost incapable of functioning as a person like we saw in the entire manga.

And frankly he was teaching her retarded shit to begin with, with the love hotels and porn shit, which is NOT a good way to learn about relationships at all. Unless you're talking about the academics things he taught her which is NOT what she's thanking him for.

You're making an assumption, she never explicitly says what she is thanking him for.

Contextual evidence suggests she is thanking him for helping her pass her admissions exams, twice, and also, she says, I'll never forget what you taught me, after thanking him for being her first teacher, which can easily mean, the academic lessons, as well as, the lessons about about love, one of which Meguro discusses, when discussing her breakup with her classmates earlier in the manga, that two people cannot be lovers, if only one person wants to be.

That's exactly what Meguro focuses on in the chapter, she wanted to be a lover, but Sensei never wanted to be, and she has come to terms with that. You're only focusing on parts of the manga that fit your narrative while leaving out the others.

I mean it looks like you edited your post, but if you're not a talented teacher for helping someone pass their admissions exam twice, then what are you...?

 

[wanako86]

I'm glad this is over. What a steep downhill this manga took in that last arc. The first half was fantastic, but damn man. Well at least I have closure.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

You're making an assumption, she never explicitly says what she is thanking him for.

No, I'm not, what she said is extremely clear unless you think she never had a teacher in her life despite being in middle school.

The rest of your comment is irrelevant because it's in the realm of fanfiction at this point.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

No, I'm not, what she said is extremely clear unless you think she never had a teacher in her life despite being in middle school.

The rest of your comment is irrelevant because it's in the realm of fanfiction at this point.

She literally said, "Thank you very much, again and again, you have helped me, and taught me a lot."

So, no, she didn't explicitly say thank you for some explicit thing, but she did implicitly thank him for educating her, after they discussed her getting into college, so there's an obvious connection between her discussing his tutoring helping her get into college and thanking him for helping educate her.

Afterwards, she directly conveys that she was in love with him, but recognizes he only thought of her as his student, clearly showing she recognizes that they were in a student - teacher relationship, and then expresses coming to terms with that, which she previously had not, and, thanks him for teaching her, expressing gratitude for him being her teacher.

Afterwards, she says, I'll never forget what you taught me, which contextually, is most likely meant to be understood, as all of the things he taught her in their academic and romantic relationship, which makes sense because Meguro is discussing their academic and romantic relationship...

So, no, the whole comment makes complete sense, and none of it is irrelevant.

Your comment is actually what doesn't make any sense...

But I get it, you have to say something like that, because you cannot actually make a legitimate argument.

 

[Rogojinen]

😐

This author is especially retarded but I'm starting to wonder why Japanese authors are allergic to satisfying conclusions. Do they just write streams of consciousness on an insane schedule until they scribble The End before going to rehab or what

No aknowledgment of that insane break-up stunt. The groomer was thanked for the memories.

Koga still didn't hit.

Meguro and her friends graduate and go 'I guess we'll never maybe never see each other again lol'

And it's a shame your bf can't fetishize your hs uniform now?

WHAT IS THIS

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[BalrogDeMorgoth]

She literally said, "Thank you very much, again and again, you have helped me, and taught me a lot."

Yes, about love and sex, that's why he was 'her first' and she 'value what he taught her', she isn't telling him she value his math teachings.

You quite literally can't read.

Again, the rest of your wall of text is irrelevant fanfiction you made up due to your complete rejection of what actually happens and inability to read a single word that's actually said. There's literally no fucking way to interpret the entire discussion as Meguro thanking him for getting her grades up, that's just not how language works.

EDIT: I actually checked your wall of text and it is not only is it irrelevant but you also admit that I'm right and she's thanking him for 'romantic teaching', AKA the shit that fucked her up the entire manga. How do you complain about my 'argument' while literally saying that I'm right?

 

[Rafalga]

She literally said, "Thank you very much, again and again, you have helped me, and taught me a lot."

So, no, she didn't explicitly say thank you for some explicit thing, but she did implicitly thank him for educating her, after they discussed her getting into college, so there's an obvious connection between her discussing his tutoring helping her get into college and thanking him for helping educate her.

Holy fucking cope. Sensei is that you? Either that or you are pretty much illiterate

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

😐

This author is especially retarded but I'm starting to wonder why Japanese authors are allergic to satisfying conclusions. Do they just write streams of consciousness on an insane schedule until they scribble The End before going to rehab or what

No aknowledgment of that insane break-up stunt. The groomer was thanked for the memories.

Koga still didn't hit.

Meguro and her friends graduate and go 'I guess we'll never maybe never see each other again lol'

And it's a shame your bf can't fetishize your hs uniform now?

WHAT IS THIS

IHKGFKFSGJFGIGWGXKGjfoggsgwlhdhgs

Remember that many manga are serialized without knowing if they will not manage to get popular and be axed quickly as a result, and if they aren't axed quickly their authors still don't know how many chapters they will get. They can still get axed is series loses popularity, and if it's constantly popular, they will try to write it as long as they can, because if they finish they don't have any guarantee their next work will be successful at all, so it's in their interest to keep writing that which prints their salary checks until they ran out of ideas.

So you can't really start with full schedule of manga plot, and with typical mangaka's insane workload, you don't really have much time to adjust your plot on week-to-week basis.

 

[jojoka]

The class action comedy series comes to an end.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

as if Meguro calling him out for his behavior isn't enough.

There has been literally 0 callout for his behavior. Saying 'You didn't see me as your lover' doesn't callout anything about his actual behavior which was taking advantage of her innocence and inexperience while leaving her with experiences and advices that screwed her up to the point of getting pumped and dumped hundreds of times in 4 fucking years.

Am I the only one who remember that Meguro in the early chapter was quite literally an insane person who had no clue what being a person even was? And that it's clearly and directly stated several time that it was a direct result of the sensei's actions, advices and 'teachings'? Girl was unironically acting and reacting like a human trafficking victim mixed with a robot.

Hell, nobody even bitch at him for apparently still being a womanizer, it doesn't even get something that could be considered a reprimanding 'Oh you!'. Even the sister just give him a dirty look but doesn't say shit and let him into the house, without going into her parents (Who are literally the world's worst parents, I have no clue how you let your daughter be a public sex slave for 4 years with 0 reactions despite somehow still playing chaperon when she has a sleepover with her friends) who for all intent and purpose should take a baseball to his skull since they literally paid him to tutor her and what he did is take her to love hotels to fuck her.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

Yes, about love and sex, that's why he was 'her first' and she 'value what he taught her', she isn't telling him she value his math teachings.

You quite literally can't read.

Again, the rest of your wall of text is irrelevant fanfiction you made up due to your complete rejection of what actually happens and inability to read a single word that's actually said. There's literally no fucking way to interpret the entire discussion as Meguro thanking him for getting her grades up, that's just not how language works.

EDIT: I actually checked your wall of text and it is not only is it irrelevant but you also admit that I'm right and she's thanking him for 'romantic teaching', AKA the shit that fucked her up the entire manga. How do you complain about my 'argument' while literally saying that I'm right?

The whole reason why they are meeting is because Meguro is telling him about her college admissions exams, not getting in and apologizing for failing, then thanking him for helping her to get into school, when she cries earlier in the manga, she remembers him patting her on his head, praising her for getting it right.

I did not admit that you're right in the way you're saying.

They are romantic teachings, but they are not what he taught her directly, he taught her through his actions, and her understanding of the meaning of his actions.

There's literally a whole part of the manga that focuses on this where the girl who Meguro becomes friends with goes through the same problem, where she wants to be lovers with a guy who likes Meguro, but it doesn't work because he only valued her as a backup because his relationship with Meguro did not work.

Meguro learned from his romantic lessons, but they weren't lesson that he provided himself, they were lessons that Meguro derived from his behavior, entirely on her own.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

The whole reason why they are meeting is because Meguro is telling him about her college admissions exams

And the whole reason she is thanking him is for being her first and what he taught her about love and relationship. And no, it's not 'her first sensei', she was in fucking school, she had senseis before that.

I did not admit that you're right in the way you're saying.

Yes, you did, you said 'as all of the things he taught her in their academic and ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP', which is exactly what everyone rightfully understood she was thanking him for, you just mixed in your retarded fanfiction about academics.

You once again, literally can't read. (Also why would she be blushing while saying that if you were right?)

 

[enjoyingmanga]

There has been literally 0 callout for his behavior. Saying 'You didn't see me as your lover' doesn't callout anything about his actual behavior which was taking advantage of her innocence and inexperience while leaving her with experiences and advices that screwed her up to the point of getting pumped and dumped hundreds of times in 4 fucking years.

Am I the only one who remember that Meguro in the early chapter was quite literally an insane person who had no clue what being a person even was? And that it's clearly and directly stated several time that it was a direct result of the sensei's actions, advices and 'teachings'? Girl was unironically acting and reacting like a human trafficking victim mixed with a robot.

Hell, nobody even bitch at him for apparently still being a womanizer, it doesn't even get something that could be considered a reprimanding 'Oh you!'. Even the sister just give him a dirty look but doesn't say shit and let him into the house, without going into her parents (Who are literally the world's worst parents, I have no clue how you let your daughter be a public sex slave for 4 years with 0 reactions despite somehow still playing chaperon when she has a sleepover with her friends) who for all intent and purpose should take a baseball to his skull since they literally paid him to tutor her and what he did is take her to love hotels to fuck her.

You can literally see him feeling bad in the panel after calls him out for it.

You never even bother to answer how he is not a good teacher when he helped her get into two schools.

Meguro said that she made the choice to act as she did, because she understood she could not control the future, she could only control the present, and she would act that way, to control the present, hoping to connect with someone in the moment.

Once again, you're only selecting parts of the manga to fit your narrative.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

Holy fucking cope. Sensei is that you? Either that or you are pretty much illiterate

I'm not illiterate. You're just immature and resort to petty insults because you nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation.

 

[Rafalga]

If Meguro at least badmouthed him in some way, or showed anger at how thoughtlessly he treated her, I'd be glad...but not even thaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAT SOUNDS FRUSTRASTING AS ALL HELL.

I think its pretty much an esteblished fact at this point that Meguro is severely autistic. Which makes what the groomer did even more horrendous. Koga is just a templete and what author thinks an ideal boyfriend is like (it isn't).

Meguro just goes along with whatever she is told like the robot she is. I've said this before but if someone told her to fuck the groomer to make sure she is moved on, she would. Noone can say she wouldn't from the things we've shown so far. And Koga would be ok with it because he is not human.