yuri hime series being tagged shoujo ai and not yuri is just laughable. Actually, go through everything published in yuri hime ever on this site, the tagging consistency is laughable.
I wonder if any series tagged yuri were replaced with the shoujo ai tag? Perhaps based on how it crossed some arbitrary line as determined by 1 user? That'd be a laugh. I'd bet it happened sometime but I got no evidence, it seems like a very safe bet tho. Someone please provide examples!
An line which cannot be clearly defined, those stating their personal definitions of said word/line miss the point in that they are no authority on the matter. And none exist because it's a made up western term that some [uhh, people took from an very barely related term. And so it can't even be agreed upon by any majority of people, let alone the large majority you'd need.
At least with other terms there are straight up equivalents even if the words differ, and there is some authority that can define them. Mind you that doesn't stop people from trying to force their own definitions. For example see Parallel Paradise's arguments, despite the official Japanese publishers agreeing on their rules for smut, many readers will try to call it R18. While I get where they are coming from, they seem to be unable to answer much if asked about strict definitions or lines. Some of them even defined it as whether they got horny reading it.
And the shoujo ai/yuri distinction is handled so utterly inconsistently i gave up trying to make any sense of it a long time ago. There's been upwards of 30 yuri series on here that are not tagged with yuri, sometimes not even shoujo ai, mistagged, neither or both. Hell, other users have already listed them. I ended up relying on offsite solutions for tagging yuri. I've never even bothered to try using it here after some testing, it was unworkable.
Sorting by magazine, publisher or artist (or relying on a friend) is far more reliable of a search term, if you want to know. Scanlators can be, too. And good luck with that because magazine/publisher definitions isn't even listed on MU or any common western site catering to weebs. If anything the two sites that even bother to describe it are usually laughed at.
The whole distinction of catering towards some arbitrary "safe"ness or "pure"ness is really weird, it doesn't even exist in most other genres. I can only surmise some sizable (or small but vocal) puritylovers want their one click solution and find two clicks of no-R18+yuri too much effort. But even then they cant agree on anything as it quickly devolves into extreme niche territory based on how "pure" their taste is (no kissing, love declarations, handholding, varying subtext levels, whatever else or a mix of the above). Even if some central authority existed, it would be unworkable and I would pity his job.
I would really say at that point they should be making their own personal complex filters or hiring someone to do it. No one should sanely make one-button solutions to cater to them. It's impossible until Minority Report for piracy exists, lul.
Well, so long as you try to run a large community with very vague rulings, this will happen. Seen it happen often enough, suffered through it often enough, in weeb communities no less, let along elsewhere. History itself has more examples too. Just how it is.
Speaking of which, where are these supposed "large" western communities that have a clear definition of what shoujo ai is?
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Sometimes I wonder if yuri is cursed with how much drama of it gets around, and yet its logically closest controversy deep cousins seem to get noticeably less of it (let's say yaoi, violence, murder, rape, thievery, works of varyingly badly designed stories which miss their intended aseops). Though I suppose those types don't really have puritylovers, or such numerous opposed factions that hate the genre. And I don't hang around those so maybe I just missed it.
Should I list all the /u/, dynasty dramas in the last few years? or VNs? or even a barely few months old tagging drama on a certain undead site? That's only for lurkers on open sites, behind the scenes drama seems even worse from what i heard? or fucking governments or telecom-monopolies being complete fail at their jobs and blocking entire sites or entire IP ranges because of some one terrorist or a supposed CP site, which of course, have to hit some unrelated yuri sub-site or other?
Why can't that much shit hit the controversial genres of other countries? I wonder how much the if popular religions would like losing their tenets to cheap talk (spamming customer service), or if English speaking countries would love to have their violent tv shows. movies and video games shut down. AND every time either faction try to so much as argue it's "safe", all they get responded with is poorly thought out arguments or better yet, witch-hunt type sentences.
even yaoi doesnt feel this bad to be a fan of, boy, being a fujoshi is starting to look real good.
even finding just an updated list of buyable yuri is probably too much to ask nowadays.
i just want to read some !@#$%^&* yuri
yuri && smut) || (yaoi && smut)
