Move Faster on Tagging Manga for Sexual Violence

[Oeconomist]

When a user has reported a manga as needing to be tagged for sexual violence, and pointed to the content, it should not take several hours or more for the manga to be tagged.

Possibly a special reporting button may be needed, but in any case the point stands.

 

[justforthelulz]

While I also believe that the more extreme content tags [Gore/Smut/Sexual Violence] need to be upfront and immediately clear so the reader knows what to expect going in,
the staff here are fellow human beings (with the exception of that one account which I suspect to be an advanced AI plotting humanity's downfall) and as such, may very well have other responsibilities that take higher priority than quickly responding to every report regarding a fan project website.

Could you point to the examples of which series are as of yet untagged?

 

[Oeconomist]

@justforthelulz—

Could you point to the examples of which series are as of yet untagged?

Maou-sama Retry, an alleged comedy, which offers a kidnapped woman being beaten to death as she is raped.

In fact, given that the mangaka waited until he'd built an audience expecting other things, there ought to be a tag for just general hatefulness.

 

[justforthelulz]

@Oeconomist
It looks like that link goes to the current latest chapter 19, (I didn't click on it, but the url matches up), but I assume it in no way is played for ultra black comedy laughs.
So you're saying the mangaka deliberately subverted expectations with earlier chapters, which didn't feature anything quite worthy of the extreme tags?

 

[Oeconomist]

@justforthelulz—

So you're saying the mangaka deliberately subverted expectations with earlier chapters, which didn't feature anything quite worthy of the extreme tags?

That question is tangential to the issue of whether the series should be tagged for sexual violence. But there is nothing like that in the earlier chapters. It is grossly implausible that the mangaka would not recongize the difference, and if he sees that scene as comedic then he is still more awful than I already think him.

 

[Oeconomist]

@AbyssalMonkey—

You're simply allowing your urge to sneer to lead you to dishonest argument. It hadn't been a matter of mere minutes when I posted my suggestion, and promptly read reports aren't subject to much more abuse that reports allowed to back-up.

 

[blackyawgdom]

Sigh. Go google Foamy the Squirrel Safe Space and watch it. Then deal with life.

 

[Rapeman]

>People running a free service need to review content ASAP as soon as I point out something that #triggers me
>Also make new special #general_hatefulness tags just for me

 

[KMoore]

I'm pretty sure that was just added for dramatic effect, to bluntly show that "This dude is bad". I don't think speculating that the mangaka did that maliciously is justified.

There are a bunch of mangas that try to contrast the relatively tame or dark atmosphere of their work, kinda like how there are breaths of slice of life elements in dark mangas like Goblin Slayer or darker elements in shounen mangas like Naruto.

 

[JoeyKicks]

So this is just a post asking the (overburdened) staff of this free website to do their jobs better.
I really wish @Oeconomist would realize that they were acting entitled and conclude this thread with a post stating that they were wrong and have been enlightened by the replies in this thread.
That would be the civil thing to do.
If anyone is dissatisfied with the operation of MD, head on over to J-Novel
Where maou sama retry is on sale. (Seven seas entertainment, comicwalker are also options)

 

[Zephyrus]

All staff are unpaid volunteers who do this in their free time and for fun, not profit. We get to shit when we get to it.

I'd also like to note that just because a report is submitted does not mean that it is actionable.

 

[sterven]

wow.

 

[421cookies]

Should tag be used when it isn't main theme of a story though? Wouldn't that just be unnecessary spoiler?

 

[MrIncognito]

@421cookies
Genre/theme tags are for the overall theme. The "Sexual Violence" content tag is there if it contains it at all

 

[Oeconomist]

@JoeyKicks—

I really wish that people like you would consider whether prepackaged rhetorical templates actually fit before using them.

This has never been about me. There is possible ex post way that I can be made unexposed to unflagged sexual violence, and no one has claimed that series should be tagged before anyone sees them. This has been about dealing with a problems of a class promptly when they've been reported.

There are people implicitly opposing a prompt response exactly because they don't want the tags to exist in the first place.

 

[BestBoy]

@Zephyrus Perhaps more staff is required. The site seems to be growing quickly and right now there's a larger than normal number of users on the site. Maybe bring on mods with the understanding that they are temporary staff?

 

[Zephyrus]

@bestboy
We aren't quite there yet. I will say that as we continue to see more international chapters, we will approach the point where we need bilingual mods for various languages.

 

[crazybars]

@Oeconomist

Sorry, I have nothing against you, but I disagree with you in this case. You just gave a major example why people don't like the Sexual Violence tag. People are overusing it. There's no evidence of consistent Sexual violence in this manga from what I can see.

You just reported Maousame Retry, a mostly lighthearted manga where the Overpowered MC runs around having adventures and blowing obstacles up. The manga as a whole has nothing to do about Men sexually violating women, that incident in the chapter was about highlighting how evil that guy was.

That's an overreaction if I've seen one and an Over use of the Sexual Violence tag. The tag is supposed to be a summary of what the manga overall is. You're not supposed to slap it on instantly like you tried to do every time an unpleasant evil act is played for drama to indicate how evil someone is unless it happens repeatedly.

We're supposed to give artists and writers some leeway to depict evil so the defeat of these scum has a greater payoff. Otherwise we would get lots of Manga with no deaths and we can't get any good story writing.
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Like, are we going to slap Sexual Violence tags on these as well then? They have almost no Sexual violence but due to the nature of their stories, they have some one or two pagers with it for drama.

https://mangadex.org/title/20393/high-school-prodigies-have-it-easy-even-in-another-world
https://mangadex.org/title/1214/historie
https://mangadex.org/title/13681/domestic-na-kanojo
https://mangadex.org/title/12136/ad-astra-scipio-to-hannibal
https://mangadex.org/title/1124/dendrobates

Yes, Even in Elf tiddy Isekai there is Sexual Violence.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/16446/15

Like where the hell do we draw the line, if we start tagging all manga for Sexual violence that have one or two incidents of Sexual Violence used for drama and plot (usually to show evil) , do we start counting nearly all the Detective Manga, Action manga on this site as Sexual Violence?

That's too far.

 

[Hounder]

Sorry, but adding that tag at this time would just be going too far. If you can show a consistent history or recurring theme in a manga of having that, then it is justified and only then.

 

[BestBoy]

Everyone saying that adding the tag is going too far is explicitly wrong, as the tag has already been added.