Music Tournament 5: Round 1 - Group C.

[Mr_Detective]

31. Hikari Todoku Basho De (光とどく場所 - Where Light Reaches) - Rockman EXE Axess

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32. Lost Game - Hello World

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33. Houkago Distraction - High Score Girl

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34. Fukashigi No Carte- Bunny Girl Senpai

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35. Nandemonaiya - Your Name

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[Mr_Detective]

36. Happiness of the Dead - 100 Zombie

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37. Kokokara, Kokokara - Sora Yori Mo Tooi Basho

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38. Do You Want To - Paradise Kiss

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39. Yoimachi Cantare - Machikado Mazoku

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40. Fight Song - Chainsaw Man

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[Mr_Detective]

41. Shiki No Uta - Samurai Champloo

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42. Love & Roll - Cencoroll

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43. INFINITY - Persona 5

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44. Modokashii Sekai No Ue De - Welcome to the N.H.K.

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Enjoy the music and have fun discussing the songs!

 

[UnnamedPlayer]

And voted !

 

[Angry_Panda]

Good candidate for the 'group of death' by my reckoning - a couple that would have made it through in A or B, but got edged out here.

 

[Mr_Detective]

Good candidate for the 'group of death' by my reckoning - a couple that would have made it through in A or B, but got edged out here.

I'm surprised you think so. Personally, I think group A and B are the tougher groups. Not only are most of the songs pretty good, but also because they have one song more than the others.

 

[Angry_Panda]

I'm surprised you think so. Personally, I think group A and B are the tougher groups. Not only are most of the songs pretty good, but also because they have one song more than the others.

Trying very hard not to turn this into 'old guy with a music degree rants.'

Some of this is personal preference; while I have a scoring system, there's a 'thumb on scale' factor built into that, and a number of the 'metal+hip-hop' entries aren't faring well in that column. I like (good) metal; I like (good) hip-hop. I don't really need both at once (and if I do, I can dig up Run D.M.C.'s version of 'Walk This Way'). Also not getting points there - drop-tuned guitars and orchestral overdubs simultaneously. It's okay to pick a genre and stick to it, rather than trying to throw everything into the mix.

Another factor - a lot of 4+ (and even 5+) minute songs that don't feel like they've gone somewhere from beginning to end. Anytime I check the time remaining on a song because I just want it to be done, it's a bad sign. Some of this may be because the catchy minute or two of intro/verse/chorus for the end credits got written first, and didn't pad out well to a full song, but my inclination in that instance would be to just leave it as a catchy minute or two and be done with it. [I refer to this as the 'Bruckner factor,' named after 19th C. German symphonist Anton Bruckner, whose works can best be described as 'like Wagner with all the interesting parts removed, and dear god why isn't it over yet.']

Last one I'll mention - there's a difference between try-go-hard and actually going hard. If it feels like it's right on the edge all the way through, it's trying too hard. 100% of the song going 100% gets tiring. Go 90% to start, and then surprise everyone with that extra 10% a couple times. [Probably playing into this - too many people involved in the writing and production. This results in a lack of clear vision and focus about what the track should be, which leads to the two problems I outlined above.]

Well, that turned into a rant, didn't it?

 

[Robinisback]

The first half of the list is filled with so many heavy-hitters. This list is a bit unbalanced.

 

[Angry_Panda]

To be fair, @Mr_Detective could balance the lists from his perspective, and then I could come along and claim that group X has 15 amazing songs and group Y has 15 crap songs and WhY iS iT sO uNfAiR? I don't expect to have an even distribution of bangers and clunkers in each group, and through group F it's not been way out of whack either way in any single group. I see no reason to criticize Mr_D for all the work he's put in just because I'd prefer 10 songs from ome group and 6 from another make it through.

(Some of y'all have some seriously questionable taste in music, though.)

 

[Robinisback]

To be fair, @Mr_Detective could balance the lists from his perspective, and then I could come along and claim that group X has 15 amazing songs and group Y has 15 crap songs and WhY iS iT sO uNfAiR? I don't expect to have an even distribution of bangers and clunkers in each group, and through group F it's not been way out of whack either way in any single group. I see no reason to criticize Mr_D for all the work he's put in just because I'd prefer 10 songs from ome group and 6 from another make it through.

(Some of y'all have some seriously questionable taste in music, though.)

Of course, I do not mean to criticize Mr_Detective at all, I was just sharing my perspective of how it feels to me, I can totally understand where he is coming from, especially when you have 114 songs to divide into multiple groups, you cannot ensure that each group will have exact kind of peak/shit division. Music is extremely subjective, after all.

Also, it was kind of an attempt to bring the thread up.

 

[bigtiddyoneesan]

i've hated Fukashigi No Carte with a passion ever since my second time hearing it years ago. still voted for it tho

 

[Mr_Detective]

The first half of the list is filled with so many heavy-hitters. This list is a bit unbalanced.

To be fair, @Mr_Detective could balance the lists from his perspective, and then I could come along and claim that group X has 15 amazing songs and group Y has 15 crap songs and WhY iS iT sO uNfAiR? I don't expect to have an even distribution of bangers and clunkers in each group, and through group F it's not been way out of whack either way in any single group. I see no reason to criticize Mr_D for all the work he's put in just because I'd prefer 10 songs from ome group and 6 from another make it through.

Honestly, I think all the groups are pretty even. There will be some songs that stand out more than others, and that's unavoidable. But even that depends on the preference of the listener. There are songs that I absolutely love, but they are underperforming, not getting many votes, because the others don't like them as much as I do. Someone might say/think the same thing you said, but in another group. Remember, all these songs are someone's own heavy-hitters/hidden gems.

What I tried to do instead was to put the songs that are easy to compare to each other in the same group, like same genre, for example. This is most obvious when you look at group A and D. Next is to try to not have two submissions from the same person in a group. Of course, this all goes out the window in round 2. But in round 1, at least we can avoid a situation of metal song versus emotional song, which was often an issue in the early tournaments.

(Some of y'all have some seriously questionable taste in music, though.)

This is a double edged sword. It might help you. It might also not help you. =w=

 

[Angry_Panda]

What I tried to do instead was to put the songs that are easy to compare to each other in the same group, like same genre, for example. This is most obvious when you look at group A and D.

I think this is what skewed Group A for me - the style on many of those is... not among my preferred genres. This will sort itself out in the next round or two.