Musket Girls! ~Tensei Sanbou to Senretsu Otome-tachi~ - Vol. 2 Ch. 9 - Enemy Attack at Dawn

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I'm not sure what real life counterpart the 'hand cannon' in this chapter is. Visually it just looks like a beefed up Tanegashima. The barrel is huge, like blunderbuss huge so I was initially thinking a 'hand mortar' which is the musket equivalent of a grenade launcher. There are no explosions however, so it can't be it. So i'm going with wall guns, since they did take the main fort and can have a 1 inch bore. Still odd since you typically use those in a defensive role.
 
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I'm not sure what real life counterpart the 'hand cannon' in this chapter is. Visually it just looks like a beefed up Tanegashima. The barrel is huge, like blunderbuss huge so I was initially thinking a 'hand mortar' which is the musket equivalent of a grenade launcher. There are no explosions however, so it can't be it. So i'm going with wall guns, since they did take the main fort and can have a 1 inch bore. Still odd since you typically use those in a defensive role.
Handgonnes were a thing before muskets. So closest, era-appropriate one would be either hand mortars or wall guns, but you’d normally hang wall guns on walls due to their sheer size and weight.
 
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Guess with the reliance on volleyfire during this era those tiny ass medieval castle windows are useless. Those handcannons are goofy though, kinda of wished they used mortars or something instead.
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I'm not sure what real life counterpart the 'hand cannon' in this chapter is. Visually it just looks like a beefed up Tanegashima. The barrel is huge, like blunderbuss huge so I was initially thinking a 'hand mortar' which is the musket equivalent of a grenade launcher. There are no explosions however, so it can't be it. So i'm going with wall guns, since they did take the main fort and can have a 1 inch bore. Still odd since you typically use those in a defensive role.
If medieval 2 total war is anything to go by, they're pretty much primitive firearms that were nothing more than glorified Roman candles. Yeah they can fuck u up but their range was ass
 
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Weird he'd say "Unlike in the medieval period" considering the worst massacres were not in the medieval times and they actually were very rare. Towns and castles changing hands without much bloodshed was very frequent. Massacres only happened in western europe (which is what seems to be depicted) when fighting a different religion. Eastern europe however...
 
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The castle depicted has dozens of machicolations, running against the wall wouldn't help. In fact it would be worse since you could drop grenades from them.
Assuming they had grenades. It's also possible the machicolations weren't done properly by the mangaka. Take a look at the panels featuring the interior space behind the arrow loops, there's no gap for them there. Or there just aren't machicolations there on the east side and there may be some around the gatehouse where attackers would logically pile up to take the gatehouse.
 
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I'd wager he'd eventually have a wall section next to the stronghold demolished to surround the enemy once the main gate is breached or threatened
 
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Assuming they had grenades. It's also possible the machicolations weren't done properly by the mangaka. Take a look at the panels featuring the interior space behind the arrow loops, there's no gap for them there. Or there just aren't machicolations there on the east side and there may be some around the gatehouse where attackers would logically pile up to take the gatehouse.
Well the artist modeled it after a castle with them because there wouldn't be a reason for the walls to jut out otherwise. Grenades were used during sieges during this period, it would be strange not to have any.
 
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Thank you very much for translating this manga, despite it having so many words and explanations.

Trying to find equivalent English terms that we are familiar with for Japanese terms in military context is very difficult. I appreciate your hard work, thanks for continuing this difficult manga.
 
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I'd wager he'd eventually have a wall section next to the stronghold demolished to surround the enemy once the main gate is breached or threatened
Actually if I remember right didn't they mention the Guard Tower had "Gunports" to the Courtyard as it was made before there was even a Castle? Thinking about it they looked like they had an Idea there. Having the Enemy inside the Courtyard to get hammered on from the Tower probably might work.
 
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The enemy at first seems to be marching in such a close manner, as if they invite every artillery shell to say hello to them. But it looks like the bastion lacks the cannon to do so. That made me laugh, then sad.

:lol: Ha, ha!

Thank you for the update!
 
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I'm not sure what real life counterpart the 'hand cannon' in this chapter is. Visually it just looks like a beefed up Tanegashima. The barrel is huge, like blunderbuss huge so I was initially thinking a 'hand mortar' which is the musket equivalent of a grenade launcher. There are no explosions however, so it can't be it. So i'm going with wall guns, since they did take the main fort and can have a 1 inch bore. Still odd since you typically use those in a defensive role.
what comes closest in around the same era is the Nock Gun. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nock_gun#:~:text=The Nock gun was a,powerful recoil and eventually discontinued.

this was designed as a naval service volley gun that fired seven musket balls at once. it was not much of a success BC of the enormous kick that could either bruise or even break the shoulder of the person firing the gun. it was however popularized by writer Bernard Cornwell who featured it in his books about rifleman Richard Sharpe. rifleman Paddy Harper uses one as a personal weapon


the reference also reminds me of the Pumpkin Scissors manga where character Randel Orland uses an enormous single shot pistol which is able to take on tanks (although that was based on the Center/ Contender single shot hunting pistol)
 

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