Nee-chan no Tomodachi ga Uzai Hanashi - Vol. 3 Ch. 14

[MangaDex]

 

[coyote_vdb]

Thanks for the translation.

 

[Kaarme]

Ayato and Kyohei haven't quite yet noticed how chuuni Nao is and how it will affect interacting with him. He's definitely not just going to sit there and listen to their advice willingly. However, as we saw with the handholding he initiated, he still did listen to the advice. He just can't allow himself to look like he'd listen to it or be interested in any suggestions others would give him. He strives to maintain his aloof disposition.

It was even funnier how Kyohei, who seems to be the overly serious, no nonsense, business first type, apparently thought Nao is the same, so he assumed they would get along easily. Alas, that's not what Nao is. He's just an edgelord. That being said, it's entirely possible that once Nao gets past his chuuni phase, he might indeed turn out to be a similar adult as Kyohei. It kind of depends on if he just gradually grows up, naturally, or if he suddenly realises how childish his behavior has been and buries it as his dark history. The recoil could mellow his personality considerably.

 

[rob1610]

I don't know why but every time these 2 argue in any form, even lightly with that lewd hand holding at the end, it reminds me so much of Namaikizakari. 🤣

 

[Crystalball]

Ayato and Kyohei haven't quite yet noticed how chuuni Nao is and how it will affect interacting with him. He's definitely not just going to sit there and listen to their advice willingly. However, as we saw with the handholding he initiated, he still did listen to the advice. He just can't allow himself to look like he'd listen to it or be interested in any suggestions others would give him. He strives to maintain his aloof disposition.

It was even funnier how Kyohei, who seems to be the overly serious, no nonsense, business first type, apparently thought Nao is the same, so he assumed they would get along easily. Alas, that's not what Nao is. He's just an edgelord. That being said, it's entirely possible that once Nao gets past his chuuni phase, he might indeed turn out to be a similar adult as Kyohei. It kind of depends on if he just gradually grows up, naturally, or if he suddenly realises how childish his behavior has been and buries it as his dark history. The recoil could mellow his personality considerably.

Man, you're projecting a bit here. Some people are just different, not everyone wears their hearts on their sleeves and it isn't always a pretense when people act in an introverted manner.

 

[Kaarme]

Man, you're projecting a bit here. Some people are just different, not everyone wears their hearts on their sleeves and it isn't always a pretense when people act in an introverted manner.

You haven't looked at his immature behavior closely enough if you can't see it. I'm not saying he can't be an introvert, but it would be an insult toward the majority of introverts to say his behavior would describe introverts. It's one thing when he was a little brat, but he's still badmouthing Sena and blaming her of all kinds of things, while he's himself guilty of half of them as well. The "I don't know you and I don't care to know you" attitude works as a joke in an RPG, but in real life, especially in a society like Japan that encourages politeness, it's just childishly rude.

I could keep going, but if you haven't seen any trace of it in 14 chapters, I know nothing I say can convince you. Though naturally we can argue about definitions and you might think calling him chuuni and edgelord is meaningless and he's just a rude, emo introvert, but in an earlier comment I explained that his behavior would be what a realistic chuuni would be like, unlike the "there's a dragon living in my left hand" type of chuuni in comedy manga.

 

[Crystalball]

You haven't looked at his immature behavior closely enough if you can't see it. I'm not saying he can't be an introvert, but it would be an insult toward the majority of introverts to say his behavior would describe introverts. It's one thing when he was a little brat, but he's still badmouthing Sena and blaming her of all kinds of things, while he's himself guilty of half of them as well. The "I don't know you and I don't care to know you" attitude works as a joke in an RPG, but in real life, especially in a society like Japan that encourages politeness, it's just childishly rude.

I could keep going, but if you haven't seen any trace of it in 14 chapters, I know nothing I say can convince you. Though naturally we can argue about definitions and you might think calling him chuuni and edgelord is meaningless and he's just a rude, emo introvert, but in an earlier comment I explained that his behavior would be what a realistic chuuni would be like, unlike the "there's a dragon living in my left hand" type of chuuni in comedy manga.

No, you simply don't understand people, you labeled the kid early on and then see him through that label. He's not a "chuuni" or an "edgelord" because those things are performative stages and he's been this way since childhood. He's just an abrasive person, the type who can't express positive emotions very well. You didn't even understand why that guy thought they were similar, it was because they both jump to defend the people they love with little gracefulness. I'm not trying to defend him, I'm just saying you're having a poor reading, thinking it's an act.

 

[Kaarme]

No, you simply don't understand people, you labeled the kid early on and then see him through that label. He's not a "chuuni" or an "edgelord" because those things are performative stages and he's been this way since childhood. He's just an abrasive person, the type who can't express positive emotions very well. You didn't even understand why that guy thought they were similar, it was because they both jump to defend the people they love with little gracefulness. I'm not trying to defend him, I'm just saying you're having a poor reading, thinking it's an act.

It indeed is partially an act. Humans are not animals. How we behave is largely a conscious act, unless you are affected by a clinical mental condition, like obsessive-compulsive disorder, paranoid schizophrenia, etc. Also various phobias, but they only manifest in very limited settings. Nao's broad behavior and attitude is a matter of choice. Certainly it could be encouraged by being an introvert, but since humans aren't just animals, he could choose to do something about it. Instead he chose to reinforce it. That's the chuuni or edgelord part of it. He enjoys being an emo rude person. It's relative to the surrounding social and cultural environment. In Japan it looks worse than it would in some other country.

Maybe you were right about why Kyouhei thought they are similar, and it was so superficial. Impossible to know without more scenes explaining it. Though that doesn't much conflict with what I said. Who wouldn't jump to defend their loved one, huh? Nine out of ten people would. A genuine loved one, that is.

 

[Crystalball]

It indeed is partially an act. Humans are not animals. How we behave is largely a conscious act, unless you are affected by a clinical mental condition, like obsessive-compulsive disorder, paranoid schizophrenia, etc. Also various phobias, but they only manifest in very limited settings. Nao's broad behavior and attitude is a matter of choice. Certainly it could be encouraged by being an introvert, but since humans aren't just animals, he could choose to do something about it. Instead he chose to reinforce it. That's the chuuni or edgelord part of it. He enjoys being an emo rude person. It's relative to the surrounding social and cultural environment. In Japan it looks worse than it would in some other country.

Maybe you were right about why Kyouhei thought they are similar, and it was so superficial. Impossible to know without more scenes explaining it. Though that doesn't much conflict with what I said. Who wouldn't jump to defend their loved one, huh? Nine out of ten people would. A genuine loved one, that is.

Humans are conscious organisms driven by complexity and subconscious desires, the rational part of us is just a part and it doesn't inform our actions in total. This is the beauty of emergent consciousness coming out of a primate lifeform, as the conscious mind relies on unconscious impulses to make decisions. This belief you have is a way to disregard empathy and justify social judgements, as someone must be in control of themselves and therefore that justifies the slings and arrows society shoots at aberrations. Like think of it this way, are you the same person when you are hungry or sleepy?

The dude reached out and grabbed a strange girl's arm and started accusing her because she was talking to his boyfriend. Not many people would do this in such an irrational fashion from choice, and it's surely not purely a conscious act as he regrets it afterwards. This very similar to Nao who reflexively attacks anyone he sees as bothering his loved ones, even said loved ones.

 

[Kaarme]

The dude reached out and grabbed a strange girl's arm and started accusing her because she was talking to his boyfriend. Not many people would do this in such an irrational fashion from choice, and it's surely not purely a conscious act as he regrets it afterwards. This very similar to Nao who reflexively attacks anyone he sees as bothering his loved ones, even said loved ones.

That's a good point and might indeed be the very thing that made him think they are similar.

Although I imagine Kyouhei only regretted it because it was a false alarm of the worst kind, pretty much. I very much doubt Nao regrets such things, though, which speaks for his immaturity. He's the guy who kept telling Sena she has a twisted sense of personal space, but he never had problems pushing her away physically or knocking her head to admonish her.