Nee, Mou Isso Tsukiacchau? Osananajimi no Bishoujo ni Tanomarete, Camo Kareshi Hajimemashita - Vol. 2 Ch. 12 - A Trivial Girlfriend

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I'd like to think this guy is just way too out of touch from reality that this idea of masculinity is what sounded desirable in a sense to a girl, which is why he asked it the way he did. Like, coomer brained out or something where he thinks chad vs incel lol. There's definitely the inferiority complex and fake relationship that really froze him in confusion at that point too, especially since he literally hears from the guy's comment on him affirming the insecurity of how he's seen.

Not to say like he shouldn't be blamed though, there's absolutely stuff he should've done in this scenario. But it definitely opens up how to proceed in the story for him to change, like to reflect off of this and reevaluate what matters, and maybe even recognize that he really should've prioritized her wellbeing in this? Like if none of this happens in the next couple of chapters then it might be time to jump ship xd
I would say that from this chapter it's time to jump ship right now. Everyone is so hyper focused on the fact that they're in a fake relationship, but they're already childhood friends who have known each other for years. The fact that he can't stand up for his friend when something really sketchy is going on is already telling of what kind of character he is.

It really doesn't matter his social standing, his inferiority complex or if he is or not in a relationship or have feelings for the girl. Before all that, they're good friends that should at the very least look out for each other.

At this point in time I see no reason why the FMC would develop any kind of romantic feelings for the MC except for him just being there.
 
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Wait a second. Didnt that girl stop the MC walking towards the fake gf and seconds later she ask him why did he do nothing? What the fuck is going on?!
An all the absolute chads in the comments goin on bout him bing a cuck 😑 most of u lot defo haven't looked at a woman without getting giddy let alone be confident enough to do exactly what ya sayin
 
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With the way some of yall talk I would think you're no better than the muscle head.
 
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I hope this causes some character growth in the male MC. I can like someone who has low self-esteem, but that he didn't stand up for his friend when the guy was overstepping his bounds is something I find distasteful.

I hope future chapters don't disappoint with his growth.
 
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I would say that from this chapter it's time to jump ship right now. Everyone is so hyper focused on the fact that they're in a fake relationship, but they're already childhood friends who have known each other for years. The fact that he can't stand up for his friend when something really sketchy is going on is already telling of what kind of character he is.

It really doesn't matter his social standing, his inferiority complex or if he is or not in a relationship or have feelings for the girl. Before all that, they're good friends that should at the very least look out for each other.

At this point in time I see no reason why the FMC would develop any kind of romantic feelings for the MC except for him just being there.
Yeah I get that but it's still an option for the story to have him recognize he's a PoS for not doing the bare minimun for a friend, even though it's equally unlikely that the story will do that lol. Especially since it has the other girl reprimand him too, which allows for a plot element to continue and directly call him out past this point, so I don't see why the story couldn't go that direction in the next chapter.

I honestly don't really have high expectations for this manga to go heavy into that route and all that, but I'm giving it a chance in that sense xd
 
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We just gonna skip over how he was gonna interfere but got stopped by the other girl who then got mad at him for not acting even though it's her fault?
 
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There's a whole lot to unpack from the comments here, but lets see what we can do;

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I would say that from this chapter it's time to jump ship right now. Everyone is so hyper focused on the fact that they're in a fake relationship, but they're already childhood friends who have known each other for years. The fact that he can't stand up for his friend when something really sketchy is going on is already telling of what kind of character he is.

It really doesn't matter his social standing, his inferiority complex or if he is or not in a relationship or have feelings for the girl. Before all that, they're good friends that should at the very least look out for each other.

At this point in time I see no reason why the FMC would develop any kind of romantic feelings for the MC except for him just being there.
Fake relationship, check. So right off there's an uncertainty as to whether she likes him or not and frankly at that age, you're having trouble with known facts like earth is sphere, grass is green and internet arguments are pointless. In short not a good time for vaguery. Also, are we expecting him to jump in hero-esque when women are way less reliant on what we allowed them to be? A this-is-my-problem-I-will-sort-it? She's growing up she can sort it and will ask for his help if she needs it.

Would develop romantic feelings? She already has them! Since growing up together he's been a part of her life and so far hasn't admitted to herself what's going on.

Did this little shit of a MC REALLY consider even for a second letting his GF date a guy who cared no shits for her consent?

This BETTER be the last time I hear such cuck talk come out of his mouth.
Let her do something? That's a little control sounding there. She's free to do whatever, fortunately childhood bonds prevailed!

I better see some development from the mc. Even if he isnt her real bf, hes still her best and childhood friend. Him just staring at this guy forcing himself onto her makes him look like a cuck, especially after the "should u rly have refused him?" comment. He better grow some balls during this manga or itll be suffering. I dont mind low self esteem characters if theres development to be seen
We're 12 chapters in - he'll develop!

I'd like to think this guy is just way too out of touch from reality that this idea of masculinity is what sounded desirable in a sense to a girl, which is why he asked it the way he did. Like, coomer brained out or something where he thinks chad vs incel lol. There's definitely the inferiority complex and fake relationship that really froze him in confusion at that point too, especially since he literally hears from the guy's comment on him affirming the insecurity of how he's seen.

Not to say like he shouldn't be blamed though, there's absolutely stuff he should've done in this scenario. But it definitely opens up how to proceed in the story for him to change, like to reflect off of this and reevaluate what matters, and maybe even recognize that he really should've prioritized her wellbeing in this? Like if none of this happens in the next couple of chapters then it might be time to jump ship xd
Yup, you get it! Lets not forget that they're TEENAGERS goddamit! They're allowed to make mistakes and learn and shit. And if someone won't actually say they like you then how will you continue, let the fear of wrecking a long term friendship consume you or take the leap into the abyss and see what happens...


Dang it's hot. Stupid UK houses keeping the heat in and roasting brain cells.
 
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There's a whole lot to unpack from the comments here, but lets see what we can do;


Fake relationship, check. So right off there's an uncertainty as to whether she likes him or not and frankly at that age, you're having trouble with known facts like earth is sphere, grass is green and internet arguments are pointless. In short not a good time for vaguery. Also, are we expecting him to jump in hero-esque when women are way less reliant on what we allowed them to be? A this-is-my-problem-I-will-sort-it? She's growing up she can sort it and will ask for his help if she needs it.

Would develop romantic feelings? She already has them! Since growing up together he's been a part of her life and so far hasn't admitted to herself what's going on.


Let her do something? That's a little control sounding there. She's free to do whatever, fortunately childhood bonds prevailed!


We're 12 chapters in - he'll develop!


Yup, you get it! Lets not forget that they're TEENAGERS goddamit! They're allowed to make mistakes and learn and shit. And if someone won't actually say they like you then how will you continue, let the fear of wrecking a long term friendship consume you or take the leap into the abyss and see what happens...


Dang it's hot. Stupid UK houses keeping the heat in and roasting brain cells.
So, to counter my argument, you did exactly what I was saying everyone does, and completely ignores the fact that they're childhood friends, close enough to "act like a married couple like it's second nature", and say that him being a complete wuss when he is witnessing his friend get harrassed is fine?

Wouldn't anyone do that to any of their friends at all? Or do you not stand up for your friends when they're going through trouble?

But then again, I guess that's the kind of people you'd find on forums like these...
 
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So, to counter my argument, you did exactly what I was saying everyone does, and completely ignores the fact that they're childhood friends, close enough to "act like a married couple like it's second nature", and say that him being a complete wuss when he is witnessing his friend get harrassed is fine?

Wouldn't anyone do that to any of their friends at all? Or do you not stand up for your friends when they're going through trouble?

But then again, I guess that's the kind of people you'd find on forums like these...

I feel like people are jumping on the hate train too quickly. They are focusing on FMC as being a damsel in distress though, for all we know, she could have handled that guy on her own. We just didn't get to see if she truly was in trouble because before the guy put his hand on her shoulder, her friend was already on her way.
 
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The comment section is just as I expected. People jumping on the MC and dissing him.

First thing first: FMC is not a little kid. She's a teenager. She might be dumb, but she's fully capable of making a decision of whether she's accepting or rejecting the senpai. MC had absolutely no need to interfere. He was only there purely by chance. He could have just gone straight home instead. And why is the FMC being treated as a damsel in distress? What happened to your so-called gender equality? Why is the MC expected to jump in and beat the senpai, then take her to safety? I wonder if these people have also complained about female characters being portrayed as distressed damsels in other manga... And here we are, a bunch of people expect the MC to be a knight in shining armor coming to her rescue.
If the FMC had chosen to date the senpai, that's her stupidity. MC should just bail and save himself the trouble.

Second: "Should you have refused that senpai?" was a dumb question to ask, sure. But girls are known to date d-bags just for the thrill. FMC is popular, and so is the senpai, at least he claimed to be. From his perspective, perhaps FMC also likes being popular, and being with the senpai will satisfy her. He might be stupid, but he had no obligation to be the hero. Who knows? Maybe he would have jumped in if the other female friend didn't. Or maybe FMC would have slapped the senpai and left just fine.

It's people who diss the MC that ironically create guys like the senpai. He looks to be one of those who try hard to be a manly alpha and do anything to avoid looking soft.

"I don't want to be a cuck, like that MC in a certain manga whom everyone looks down on, so I'm gonna be super muscular, aggressive, and violent! And I will decide what's good and bad for my female friends as well!" The latter leads to other problems in situations when they don't realize their female friends don't need their interference.

I will help my friends/family members when they need me. Otherwise, I let them fight their own fight themselves. They aren't kids, so I treat them as intelligent and capable adults. And I expect them to do the same for me. I will ask them when I need their help. If I don't ask, then I can solve my own problems, don't pry.
 
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Please don't have an arc where he becomes a sauve, cool guy, gets arrogant starts hanging out with other people and ignores her! Just went through that in YJK and it made me drop the series. Maybe a little exercise and self defense training but please dear god not a whole personality make over.
 
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Imo the mc is not as annoying as people think he is. He has a low esteem but he isn’t too wimpy either. This wouldn’t be interesting if he was already a perfect mc with little to no development. Take BokuYaba’s mc people hated him too in the beginning for being “weird” and “wimpy to the point of being dense” but as the story progressed Ichikawa’s character growth became one of the most satisfying thing in the series after the romance part itself.
 
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Medusa looks better than FMC. Not sure about her personality.

I just noticed, when flying through the chapter again, that he was about to run there, but that girl stopped him even though he is her 'boyfriend' to then complain he didn't go there xd
She was also intent on hiding until he turned more aggressive. So stopping him at one point but expecting him to act at another when the situation changed makes sense. Not saying I agree with it, but it makes sense from her perspective.

What doesn't make sense is that, looking at the panels and what actions they took, she covered quite a long distance in almost an instant to reach to the guy and slap him.

Anyway, it was a quick situation that could be judged in many ways. You could trust her to handle it herself, not trust her and help out, judge the other guy to be dangerous or harmless, and if he were dangerous, whether you could take him on at all and whether you should try anyway. And a bunch of variations and other aspects.

The only thing we can know is that Medusa is sufficiently intimidating to scare him off, and that Toiro doesn't think too much about what happened.

So should've, could've, would've are all irrelevant. They did what they did and it turned out fine.
 
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man that was such a turn off and i'm a straight guy lol , i can't believe this moron of mc just stood there like a retard while that guy tried to force himself on Gf like even if she's not his real gf , she's still his childhood friend aka "precious friend" yet he just stood looking like a retard.This chap really made me want to quit reading this manga but i will give it one more chance but i swear if he pull this shit again i'm so done with this manga
 

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