Okusan - Vol. 20 Ch. 141

[MangaDex]

 

[bowser_communist]

This whole waste product removal soundsclike BS anyone know for sure? I assume it helps make milk but wtf is waste product removal?

 

[PlanOfInaction]

Let's do our best, breast!

 

[vannn]

“Let’s do our Breast”

It was right there!

 

[Samhill]

This whole waste product removal soundsclike BS anyone know for sure? I assume it helps make milk but wtf is waste product removal?

Sounds like some sort of odd Japanese belief, like "the stable period".

 

[phil777]

 

[Mingu113]

The kid really went "Nipah"

 

[kaminomikan]

got curious about the breast massage for first timers, but google didn't show anything with science/medicals facts about that...

 

[xyzzy]

I’ve seen the raws.

Spoiler

this is preparation for a lactation arc

 

[jackjack9]

Do your best Okusan!!!

 

[Doomroar]

This whole waste product removal soundsclike BS anyone know for sure? I assume it helps make milk but wtf is waste product removal?

Sounds like some sort of odd Japanese belief, like "the stable period".

got curious about the breast massage for first timers, but google didn't show anything with science/medicals facts about that...

I went on a google scholar quick search, and found:

1. Breast massages are mostly done to increase milk production and efficiency for new mothers
2. Breast massages have the secondary function of helping to accustom the breasts to milk production, reduce pain, reduce stress, and increase Oxytocin, and prolactin
3. And finally, there's this one korean paper https://synapse.koreamed.org/articles/1002727 that says that breast massage exercises can lower the pressence of breast milk sodium, however this is quite an unimpressive feature, because breast milk sodium naturally "lowers" itself as mothers start producing more milk, regardless of breast massage exercises https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1627692/

By now you must be asking "why the fuck is lower Na on breast milk important?" most breast milk is fine as is https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK545425/ however it so just happens that when there is poor breast milk production the Na ratio on the breast milk increases https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...born-infants/E843875803D3F75931B276FD1A5B7F04

Why would that be bad? because there's an inverse correlation between Na and weigh gain in babies (from the same article)

So when mothers have problems producing breast milk, their milk will be saltier (because there's less milk to dilute things), and their babies will have more problems gaining weigh, however good milk production naturally makes less salty milk, and the Na+ ratio will naturally decrease after 3 days to a week since milk production increases

Also Na+ levels on breast milk are a good indicator to predict and monitor breast milk production https://publications.aap.org/pediat...-Clinical-Usefulness-of-Breast-Milk-Sodium-in

Alright so what does this all means? that this manga sits on a throne of lies!

Not only do breast massage exercises make breast feeding easier, it makes it less unpleasant, and is pleasurable, it also helps increase milk production, which in turn naturally lowers the salt levels of milk

Even if a mother experiences anomalous breast feeding in which the activity is painful, breast massage exercises should help with reducing pain, rather than being a painful experience in itself, so that whole deal with all the moms being afraid of breast massages because they are painful, is just false, unless Japan just does some backward savage breast massage exercise trying to force milk out of a dry boob, like pinching nipples until they bleed and putting boobs on a hydraulic press machine

There's also no such thing whatsoever as waste product removal, the only compositional change that breast massage exercises have on breast milk, is the reduction of salt content ratio on the milk, BUT! this is a byproduct of an increment on breast milk production rather than a removal of "waste products accumulating on the breast", in sort is not that the milk has less salt, it is just that there's way more milk

 

[10milestereo]

PLEASE tell me japan doesn't think colostrum is "waste products" and encourages you to clear it before breast feeding what the hell

 

[Fugutron]

This whole waste product removal soundsclike BS anyone know for sure? I assume it helps make milk but wtf is waste product removal?

It's sounds like some hentai bunkum lol Or maybe I've been reading too much pregnancy housewife hentai lately

 

[te-kun]

PLEASE tell me japan doesn't think colostrum is "waste products" and encourages you to clear it before breast feeding what the hell

This whole waste product removal soundsclike BS anyone know for sure? I assume it helps make milk but wtf is waste product removal?

Sounds like some sort of odd Japanese belief, like "the stable period".

got curious about the breast massage for first timers, but google didn't show anything with science/medicals facts about that...

It's sounds like some hentai bunkum lol Or maybe I've been reading too much pregnancy housewife hentai lately

Probably they are talking about lymphatic drainage

https://ukhealthcare.uky.edu/obstet...breastfeeding-support/tips-manage-engorgement

 

[kaminomikan]

Probably they are talking about lymphatic drainage

https://ukhealthcare.uky.edu/obstet...breastfeeding-support/tips-manage-engorgement

yeah, definitely that's not what is described in the chapter.

 

[RanmaChaos]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[Ironclad]

 

[Samhill]

Even if a mother experiences anomalous breast feeding in which the activity is painful, breast massage exercises should help with reducing pain, rather than being a painful experience in itself, so that whole deal with all the moms being afraid of breast massages because they are painful, is just false, unless Japan just does some backward savage breast massage exercise trying to force milk out of a dry boob, like pinching nipples until they bleed and putting boobs on a hydraulic press machine

There's also no such thing whatsoever as waste product removal, the only compositional change that breast massage exercises have on breast milk, is the reduction of salt content ratio on the milk, BUT! this is a byproduct of an increment on breast milk production rather than a removal of "waste products accumulating on the breast", in sort is not that the milk has less salt, it is just that there's way more milk

I'm guessing it's some sort of unnecessary horror show since they believe that "waste product" builds up before your first pregnancy. Then again it could be a bad translation.

Probably they are talking about lymphatic drainage

https://ukhealthcare.uky.edu/obstet...breastfeeding-support/tips-manage-engorgement

I doubt it.

 

[Doomroar]

I'm guessing it's some sort of unnecessary horror show since they believe that "waste product" builds up before your first pregnancy. Then again it could be a bad translation.



I doubt it.

Breast massages are done to promote lactation in order to prepare the breast to produce milk, it is started ahead of time, before breastfeeding

Engorgement happens after the breast are already producing milk, 3 days or a week into breastfeeding, the milk is not coming out anymore, and the breast end engorged

Okusan doesn't has milk yet, so she can't be engorged, and these breast massages are being recommended in order for her to get ready to start lactating

So yeah i also doubt it is that

It could be a bad translation, but it could also be just bad practice in Japan, you know how some doctors sell sham patches to put on your feet to "detox your body of heavy metals"

It can be the same thing here, to sell the whole detox deal as an attachment, despite breast massages by themselves already having a bunch of advantages, the idea itself is dangerous because some moms may opt for baby formula if they think that their own milk may have contaminants

 

[te-kun]

yeah, definitely that's not what is described in the chapter.

I'm guessing it's some sort of unnecessary horror show since they believe that "waste product" builds up before your first pregnancy. Then again it could be a bad translation.



I doubt it.

Breast massages are done to promote lactation in order to prepare the breast to produce milk, it is started ahead of time, before breastfeeding

Engorgement happens after the breast are already producing milk, 3 days or a week into breastfeeding, the milk is not coming out anymore, and the breast end engorged

Okusan doesn't has milk yet, so she can't be engorged, and these breast massages are being recommended in order for her to get ready to start lactating

So yeah i also doubt it is that

It could be a bad translation, but it could also be just bad practice in Japan, you know how some doctors sell sham patches to put on your feet to "detox your body of heavy metals"

It can be the same thing here, to sell the whole detox deal as an attachment, despite breast massages by themselves already having a bunch of advantages, the idea itself is dangerous because some moms may opt for baby formula if they think that their own milk may have contaminants

Breasts get swollen due to hormonal changes, not only lactation. Even the menstrual cycle does it and for obvious reason it is particularly notable in pregnancy.
From the Institute for the Advancement of Breastfeeding and Lactation Education (IABLE)
"Breast swelling (lymphedema) often occurs during pregnancy and lactation, and lymphatic massage is particularly effective to relieve lymphedema."