Onna dakara, to Party wo Tsuihou Sareta no de Densetsu no Majo to Saikyou Tag wo Kumimashita - Vol. 4 Ch. 20.3

[nameless0ne]

This manga has the subtlety of a sledgehammer. And I love it. It would not work otherwise. Glad it sticks to this tune.

 

[BayuAH]

there is nothing wrong wight his concern but seeing as how he's immediately restricting and punishing her for someone else's actions laplace is 100% right

Well, sometimes parents also snap when it comes to their children.

But Laplace is just throwing a tantrum without even showing any solutions. Perhaps she can convince her father that she and her team will protect her, or even better, teach her how to do self-defense so that he can rest assured of her safety.

 

[popo53414]

guess who's tired of Asian parents

 

[fireproofemu]

Every single character in this manga is despicable.

 

[YoraeRasante]

I mean, his heart is in the right place, he wants to protect his daughter, but restricting her freedom and blaming her for someone else’s crime isn’t the way to do it.

there is nothing wrong wight his concern but seeing as how he's immediately restricting and punishing her for someone else's actions laplace is 100% right

Well, his argument is that that she should have learned to be careful about her food/drink when out. And that since she was not, it seems she cannot be safe out late without an adult chaperone.

So, his "punishment" is limiting how late she can go out at night alone with just her friends for.

Which, to me, seems fair.
I mean, look at what her friends did, or rather did not do. Had them been enough to take care of her, the dude would not have carried her home and got an excuse to cause all this commotion.
Not saying they are at fault, but they were clearly not enough protection for each other. They are lucky this is all that came out of this and the Main Party was able to deal with it.

Also, being careful about your food and drinks is something that should be done in real life too (for both genders, even). Never eat or drink anything that left your hands and direct line of sight for too long.

It just seems to be worse because we caught it in the middle of the moment, right after all the blaming manipulation that happened before.

Indeed, children are not the property of their parents, but it is the job of parents to protect their children. There is nothing wrong with parents being concerned about their children's well-being, especially in an era when assaults on women are common at night.

Laplace, for the first time, I disagree with you. Your anger seems groundless.

This.

Laplace's anger seems to come from something about her parents, that she somehow saw in his actions.

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

Father: Gives actual good advice and tries to protect his daughter.
The witch girl(What's even her name? What's even anyone's name but tanya(this was a name in this manga right?)): SILENCE MAN!
Also i swear the duel ended in the last chapter, or was it the duel before that. It just becomes one, not even sure why i'm still reading this, maybe i'm just bad at dropping trash, considering that i read whole 63 chapters of the worst isekai and possibly the worst manga (re:monster) before dropping it.

 

[riflow]

This is such a refreshing series.

I'm not used to victim blaming being corrected so unabashedly.

Considering the exact same arguments are used to restrict, control and blame girls, women and fem presenting people irl. Often resulting in punishing the victim more than the perpetrator for "not being careful enough" when the reality is, if someone wants to commit a crime they will find any route possible to do so even if you as their target are experienced and take every precaution available to you. I've read and heard too many horror stories about people being hurt exactly like this or worse at this point.

Absolutely based of laplace to shut her dad being awful to her right down.

 

[spamtrashed]

Thanks for all the hard work you put into scanlating for us! (^_^)

 

[silverpetricof]

That push back from Lapace was powerful (she's sexier than usual when she's angry).

That being said, with how more or less divided the comments seem to be regarding their argument this might be this manga's one rare example of a situation not being purely black and white. A small taste of the nuance some people have been wanting from this. Both Lapace and the father have good intentions, but they convey them in ways that are accusatory (the father) and unproductive (Lapace).

Thanks for the translation.

 

[erin4]

some of these comments, aint it

 

[H4CK3R]

i love all the bubbly comments here not saying they are bad cuz..even the well defined line of basic ethics gets blurred in some specific places(like battlefields) and i reckon this is one of the places. The scenario in manga is so very light representation of real world scenario, but some of yall live in good places so your comments reflect that, not saying they are wrong. The girl actually got Scott free in this scenario as in normal world she would get humiliated. This is coming from a person whos living in one of harshest place for a woman

 

[Kaldrak]

All I'll say is that much abuse is swept under the rug in the name of 'parental rights' over their children. Children are not the property of their parents, but they get treated like it in most societies.

 

[welcome2atlantis]

Papa Butcher said some sensible things though. The girl was careless.

 

[Mell_Mell-chan]

there is nothing wrong wight his concern but seeing as how he's immediately restricting and punishing her for someone else's actions laplace is 100% right

Not only that, he also put the blame on her, he can say she is careless and shouldn't just leave late ate night, but blaming her for being a victim of a crime is just bullshit, there really are a lot of abusive parents who treat their children as their belongs and if anything doesn't go the way they want, they take away all their freedom or overpunish them

 

[Valhalla_101]

A child isn’t the parent's property, but the parent is there to guide and protect/nurture the child. If the parent is doing something to protect the child, like setting a curfew, then that’s what they’ll do. Not everything a parent does for their child is right/correct but someone who has nothing to do with the family shouldn’t scare them into making a decision that the third party believes is wrong. Sure they can suggest something but not scare it

 

[zebeker]

I mean, look at what her friends did, or rather did not do. Had them been enough to take care of her, the dude would not have carried her home and got an excuse to cause all this commotion.

He didn't carry her home. All he did was roofie her and then propose after she was half-asleep and couldn't respond. Her friend took her home and he just showed up the next day claiming to be her fiancee.

 

[Blackspace_2]

girl: gets drugged and approached by weird guy
her "friends": 🙈

 

[shittycoolusername69]

i love all the bubbly comments here not saying they are bad cuz..even the well defined line of basic ethics gets blurred in some specific places(like battlefields) and i reckon this is one of the places. The scenario in manga is so very light representation of real world scenario, but some of yall live in good places so your comments reflect that, not saying they are wrong. The girl actually got Scott free in this scenario as in normal world she would get humiliated. This is coming from a person whos living in one of harshest place for a woman

It's that creepy little fuck that got off scot-free. He's the one who actually did something wrong, and suffered no legal consequences.