Ore ga Ojou-sama Gakkou ni "Shomin Sample" Toshite Rachirareta Ken - Vol. 13 Ch. 69 - I get wet
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This is quite frankly the weirdest chapter I have read as of this point.
Wow...I wonder if Kujo had the authority to punish Eri like that.
It was pretty obvious in the Principal's office that Eri was trying to apologize and got dragged away. It seems to me like Kujo was just using this as an opportunity to bully Eri because she is jealous of her.
Sure Eri can be a brat, but so is Kujo. It seems odd the principal would allow Kujo to mete out punishment like that.
It was pretty obvious in the Principal's office that Eri was trying to apologize and got dragged away. It seems to me like Kujo was just using this as an opportunity to bully Eri because she is jealous of her.
Sure Eri can be a brat, but so is Kujo. It seems odd the principal would allow Kujo to mete out punishment like that.
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@HOOfan_1 It may be cliche as hell, but just saying sorry doesn't fix a damn thing; apologizing isn't some all powerful "get-out-of-punishment-free" card that magically negates you having to deal with the consequences of your actions. Especially when those actions were more or less brainwashing her classmates into becoming rude, loud, and disruptive girls who literally heckled their teacher until she left the room. Any student who did that in a normal school would be facing suspension at the least. Compared to that, Eri got off pretty lightly.
Besides, it's not like she didn't deserve every bit of it.
Besides, it's not like she didn't deserve every bit of it.
@Vincentius she didn't brainwash them though. She actually kind of did exactly what a Shomin Sample is supposed to do and tell them how things actually work in the real world. The staff of the school wanted the girls to be exposed to people from the real world so they wouldn't experience culture shock. Heck she was basically trying to tell them to think for themselves instead of accepting everything shoved down their throats. The problem is, the girls are so sheltered that her advice had the opposite effect. They took what she said and went overboard instead of thinking for themselves. Eri never meant for them to rebel, she even tried to stop them several times, but they just continued with the misunderstanding.
Of all the people in this manga who did wrong and deserve punishment, Eri seems the least of them. How about Kujo for getting Kimito kidnapped? How about Kujo abusing her power at the school to try and push Eri out of Kimito's life? How about Kujo for trying to abuse her power to keep Aki out of Kimito's life? Even if Eri deserved punishment, Kujo shouldn't be the one to mete it out. Do you think they would have spanked any of those rich girls? I doubt it, Eri got spanked because Kujo is jealous of her.
How about the principal and all the rest of the staff of that school for kidnapping Kimito? Or the fact that they tell him he has no right to refuse or else he gets sent to a black site prison, or if he claims he is not gay, he will be castrated. None of them get punished.
Of all the people in this manga who did wrong and deserve punishment, Eri seems the least of them. How about Kujo for getting Kimito kidnapped? How about Kujo abusing her power at the school to try and push Eri out of Kimito's life? How about Kujo for trying to abuse her power to keep Aki out of Kimito's life? Even if Eri deserved punishment, Kujo shouldn't be the one to mete it out. Do you think they would have spanked any of those rich girls? I doubt it, Eri got spanked because Kujo is jealous of her.
How about the principal and all the rest of the staff of that school for kidnapping Kimito? Or the fact that they tell him he has no right to refuse or else he gets sent to a black site prison, or if he claims he is not gay, he will be castrated. None of them get punished.
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@HOOfan_1 You really think Eri has done nothing wrong? Need I remind you of the fact that Kimito is actually afraid of her because she regularly kicks him in the shins (probably the balls, too) and despite trying to convince himself that seeing her at Seikain was just a hallucination, he still planned to hide in his room until the next day. Then there's the fact that she constantly belittles and insults him in front of people, she treats him as little more than a slave at her beck and call, and is also the one who told the staff at Seikain that he was gay and had a muscle fetish. And all of that is because... Some other girl gave him Valentine's chocolate in the 4th grade. Those are all signs of a pretty abusive relationship; seriously, flip the genders and put Eri through the shit she puts Kimito through and you'd be cheering the moment she shot him.
While it's true that Eri's core messages, "think for yourself" and "don't take everything an adult tells you as absolute truth just because they're adults", are really important messages for these extremely sheltered ladies, the problem is how she went about it. She coached them on exactly how to act to be as disruptive as possible, as seen when she had those girls repeat that laughing pose until she was satisfied; we can then easily surmise that she coached them on every other aspect of their behavior. And that behavior isn't how things work in the real world. It's how things work in a very specific and relatively minor counterculture. If she just taught them that these things exist, it'd be one thing, but again, she deliberately coached them on how to act and wasn't at all bothered by it until they chased the teacher out of the room because she knew she was in trouble for starting it.
Yes, she tried to apologize as soon as she was dragged to the dean's office, but again: apologizing doesn't free you from dealing with the consequences of your actions. All the girls did by rescuing her was digging her deeper, because whether she told them to do so or not, all of their actions are directly Eri's responsibility, because if she hadn't taken things as far as she did, they never would have even conceived of something like that. Which is the exact reason none of them got spanked; without Eri's influence, none of them would have acted in such a disrespectful manner (and yes, everything they did was highly disrespectful and the kind of thing you'd be punished for in any school, unless they've gotten seriously lax in the last 20 years). Also, Kujou is the head maid (and, thus, head disciplinarian), so it's pretty obviously her job to dish out punishment. Is Kujou jealous of Eri? Yes. Did she use the opportunity for a little payback? Most definitely. Doesn't mean she was in the wrong for doing her job.
Point of fact: legally speaking, Kimito was not kidnapped as he is a minor and his parents agreed to the transfer (granted, they were bribed, but they still had no problem with it). The school also has a duty to protect its students, even if they weren't filthy rich; the fact that they are just means that the level of protection goes up exponentially, and the fact is, they would threaten anyone who intruded on their grounds with the same options: stay here or live in an unmarked black site for the rest of their lives. Eri only avoided that because Kujou came up with the NDA for Kimito's sake. Kujou isn't attempting to push Eri out of Kimito's life; that's just a happy bonus for her. What she's trying to do is take control of a potential security risk. Remember, their location is a highly classified secret that involves the manipulation of satellite data and the cooperation of the highest levels of government; if Eri were the more malevolent type, she could easily lead hundreds of thousands of people right to their doorstep, and, in fact, that's exactly what she was threatening to do by recording Reiko talking about Seikain on her phone. Could you imagine what would happen to a person who waltzed into the White House and said "I have videographic evidence of your secrets and how to get past your security, give me something or else I'll lead thousands of people I know nothing about into the Oval Office"?
Yes, it's pretty screwed up that Kimito's given no right to refuse (but again, security risk), but since the reveal of Kujou's true nature, I believe the gay claims are just a convenient fiction for everyone involved; he vehemently denied being gay when first brought to the school, at which point the dean brought up the castration. Reading between the lines, it would go something like "we know you're not gay, but these ladies belong to insanely powerful families that will make your life a living hell if you touch one of them, so play along to give the parents' peace of mind"; the threat of castration seems more like a gruesome reminder to keep to the official story (and Kujou's way of ensuring no other girls get too close to what she believes is hers), though the dean may have actually gone through with it.
While it's true that Eri's core messages, "think for yourself" and "don't take everything an adult tells you as absolute truth just because they're adults", are really important messages for these extremely sheltered ladies, the problem is how she went about it. She coached them on exactly how to act to be as disruptive as possible, as seen when she had those girls repeat that laughing pose until she was satisfied; we can then easily surmise that she coached them on every other aspect of their behavior. And that behavior isn't how things work in the real world. It's how things work in a very specific and relatively minor counterculture. If she just taught them that these things exist, it'd be one thing, but again, she deliberately coached them on how to act and wasn't at all bothered by it until they chased the teacher out of the room because she knew she was in trouble for starting it.
Yes, she tried to apologize as soon as she was dragged to the dean's office, but again: apologizing doesn't free you from dealing with the consequences of your actions. All the girls did by rescuing her was digging her deeper, because whether she told them to do so or not, all of their actions are directly Eri's responsibility, because if she hadn't taken things as far as she did, they never would have even conceived of something like that. Which is the exact reason none of them got spanked; without Eri's influence, none of them would have acted in such a disrespectful manner (and yes, everything they did was highly disrespectful and the kind of thing you'd be punished for in any school, unless they've gotten seriously lax in the last 20 years). Also, Kujou is the head maid (and, thus, head disciplinarian), so it's pretty obviously her job to dish out punishment. Is Kujou jealous of Eri? Yes. Did she use the opportunity for a little payback? Most definitely. Doesn't mean she was in the wrong for doing her job.
Point of fact: legally speaking, Kimito was not kidnapped as he is a minor and his parents agreed to the transfer (granted, they were bribed, but they still had no problem with it). The school also has a duty to protect its students, even if they weren't filthy rich; the fact that they are just means that the level of protection goes up exponentially, and the fact is, they would threaten anyone who intruded on their grounds with the same options: stay here or live in an unmarked black site for the rest of their lives. Eri only avoided that because Kujou came up with the NDA for Kimito's sake. Kujou isn't attempting to push Eri out of Kimito's life; that's just a happy bonus for her. What she's trying to do is take control of a potential security risk. Remember, their location is a highly classified secret that involves the manipulation of satellite data and the cooperation of the highest levels of government; if Eri were the more malevolent type, she could easily lead hundreds of thousands of people right to their doorstep, and, in fact, that's exactly what she was threatening to do by recording Reiko talking about Seikain on her phone. Could you imagine what would happen to a person who waltzed into the White House and said "I have videographic evidence of your secrets and how to get past your security, give me something or else I'll lead thousands of people I know nothing about into the Oval Office"?
Yes, it's pretty screwed up that Kimito's given no right to refuse (but again, security risk), but since the reveal of Kujou's true nature, I believe the gay claims are just a convenient fiction for everyone involved; he vehemently denied being gay when first brought to the school, at which point the dean brought up the castration. Reading between the lines, it would go something like "we know you're not gay, but these ladies belong to insanely powerful families that will make your life a living hell if you touch one of them, so play along to give the parents' peace of mind"; the threat of castration seems more like a gruesome reminder to keep to the official story (and Kujou's way of ensuring no other girls get too close to what she believes is hers), though the dean may have actually gone through with it.
@Vincentius I never said Eri has no fault. I said she was a brat in my first post. Kujo is a brat too, and she gets away with it because she is rich. They wouldn't have spanked those girls, not because they were corrupted, they wouldn't spank them because they are rich. Kujo mistreats Kimito too, with constant threats of castration and kissing him without his consent.
Also, it's not just about apologizing not being enough, Eri wasn't even allowed to tell her side of the story. Kujo automatically decided her guilt. I don't feel sorry that Eri got spanked. I think it is wrong that Kujo was the one who did it, while Kujo gets away with her own wrong doings. If you read more upcoming chapters you will see how she missuses her family's powers to keep targets of her jealousy away from Kimito.
I'm also not sure about your idea that the head maid is in charge of discipline. I'm pretty sure Kujo just used her family's influence to put herself in that position. The principal should be the one in charge of discipline.
Kujo is most certainly trying to keep Eri out of Kimito's life and it has nothing to do with the security of that school. When she saw Eri cleaning his ears she threatened both of them, and within minutes after Kimito remembered meeting Kujo as a kid, she ran the other girls out of his room and she started doing the same thing she threatened Eri for doing.
I don't really care if Kimito's parents gave their permission to take Kimito either. Taking a person somewhere without their assent is kidnapping. He was basically sold into slavery by his parents. This was all set up by Kujo.
So my complaint is not that Eri got spanked, my complaint is that Kujo gets away with shenanigans as bad or worse than Eri because she comes from a rich family. I would love to see Eri spank her in a future chapter...but now that they ended the manga without an actual conclusion, I guess that will never happen.
Also, it's not just about apologizing not being enough, Eri wasn't even allowed to tell her side of the story. Kujo automatically decided her guilt. I don't feel sorry that Eri got spanked. I think it is wrong that Kujo was the one who did it, while Kujo gets away with her own wrong doings. If you read more upcoming chapters you will see how she missuses her family's powers to keep targets of her jealousy away from Kimito.
I'm also not sure about your idea that the head maid is in charge of discipline. I'm pretty sure Kujo just used her family's influence to put herself in that position. The principal should be the one in charge of discipline.
Kujo is most certainly trying to keep Eri out of Kimito's life and it has nothing to do with the security of that school. When she saw Eri cleaning his ears she threatened both of them, and within minutes after Kimito remembered meeting Kujo as a kid, she ran the other girls out of his room and she started doing the same thing she threatened Eri for doing.
I don't really care if Kimito's parents gave their permission to take Kimito either. Taking a person somewhere without their assent is kidnapping. He was basically sold into slavery by his parents. This was all set up by Kujo.
So my complaint is not that Eri got spanked, my complaint is that Kujo gets away with shenanigans as bad or worse than Eri because she comes from a rich family. I would love to see Eri spank her in a future chapter...but now that they ended the manga without an actual conclusion, I guess that will never happen.
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