Ore ni Trauma wo Ataeta Joshi-tachi ga Chirachira Mitekuru kedo, Zannen desu ga Teokure desu - Vol. 6 Ch. 26.1 - 「The Worst Outcome」

[Insignis]

you say "raging about a different country" but everything the other person said is describing the current US president in everything but name, both from his first and his current term.
Which, everything you named are things currently happening effectively exclusively to the US in the presented permutation as well, meaning it's "not a different country" whatsoever.
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I mean they said "imagine living in", I don't - hence "different country". Also I mentioned I used the loudest things - so kinda hard to not mention political stuff as that tends to be the hottest topic with USA stuff at the top of the lists. Anti-oil stuff YT shows me doesn't tend to have people going bananas and rioting - they just glue themselves to a road or maybe paint the store orange. vTuber drama also didn't "scratch the itch".

My intention wasn't to make this political, as I wasn't even trying to start a debate or anything. Like I said, I needed some representation of people going bananas cause situation enabled them to do so and BLM riots, ICE stuff, Antifa just came to my mind first. YT probably biassed propaganda didn't really show me the other side doing similar "bad stuff cause just cause" and thus I didn't use it.

What do you expect when you pick those specific topics 😭🙏🏾 if you mentioned one of those, it would be different, but mentioning specifically those topics made you come as an anti-left person who knows what they are talking about.

Yeah, sorry. Like I said, I chosen what is the loudest on my YT that fit the bill of "enabled people to go bananas". I often skim-watch shit, while being to lazy to click don't recommend this - so my YT could be a bit tad biased .

But if that's not the case, you might want to wake up to whatever right-wing propaganda is getting into your ears because you basically came against ppl who fight against facism (Antifa), ppl who fight against cops killing unarmed black ppl for no reason (BLM) and ppl who fight against masked thugs (ICE) kidnapping randoms from the streets

I mean I didn't came against anyone really. From what I recall YT showing me:

Antifa is often far more fascist in what they do than whatever they fight against, and with people calling others fascist just cause they have different opinion to then "antifa" against them not helping here much. A lot of what YT shown me was people losing their marbles and becoming "destroying others property for no reason thugs".

BLM "propaganda" wasn't much about why, but about the effects - destroyed cities by looting/rioting - aka a lot of innocent people beaten, killed, lost their shops/stuff cause some people had a "just cause" to fight against.

ICE stuff is meh'y. One side shouts they "kidnap people and send them to camps", other side speak about illegal immigrants being simply deported (thou a tad bit to forcefully). I personally don't really know what is true, just saw riot like behaviour similar to BLM/Antifa in the YT propaganda given to me and hence why I added this to the list.

In all those topics there were a lot of people going bananas cause they saw the situation as a green light to be evil. And that is the only thing I had in mind while I wrote my comment.

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And they even have a doxxing list they are using to get ppl fired from their jobs if they talk bad about Charlie, including sharing his own quotes 😭

I only heard about people reporting those who are openly being happy that someone murdered Charlie, and talking about how they should have also killed his kids and wife, and that anyone with views like Charlie should also be killed. Cause they fear working with such people in the same company, not knowing if those people wont go bananas and kill them at some point just for having a different opinion/PoV.

People being openly evil like that on social media doesn't help with PR/image of the companies either, so I could argue that people losing jobs over that is OKish? Especially if I remember how people reported others for racist/sexist jokes, or how women report men they don't like to HR for sexual harassment, if those can make people lose jobs - loving death of Kirk can too.

Losing job only cause you said bad things about Kirk is thou a bit overboard. Could see people reporting them as "the bananas ones", but the ones openly happy Kirk was murdered are also "bananas". So as long as I could use it as a pointer in my comment - it wasn't loud enough in my YT plus kinda writing "Kirk murder" wouldn't really point into "people going bananas" so it didn't came to my mind at that point (aka when I was writing my comment).

Anyway - this not a place for left vs right battle, nor I intended to start one. So lets end this off topic with me apologising for using only political seems one sided examples. In future I will try to properly write what I had in my mind instead of using some seemingly simple examples - especially if it could lead to what happened here .

 

[Keithunder]

Btw, we haven't seen glasses sensei on the "current" timeline just yet did we? Is she actually getting trouble because of this?

She's the glasses Lady in the mixer chapter trying to steal the teacher role from the homeroom teacher

 

[Faint15]

Damn this thread went places lol.

Anyway, this chapter would have been absolutely perfect if the MC wasn't stopped by the teacher. Everybody in that class deserved the smoke.

 

[xAKLx]

Antifa is often far more fascist in what they do than whatever they fight against, and with people calling others fascist just cause they have different opinion to then "antifa" against them not helping here much. A lot of what YT shown me was people losing their marbles and becoming "destroying others property for no reason thugs".

Yeah, because they don't show the context ever. For example, Andy Ngo was famous for always sharing the clips of antifa committing violence, and not showing that a second before that clip, they were attacked first. The only person of note that I remember hearing about antifa attacking was Richard Spencer, who is a literal neo-nazi who has been caught on audio ranting about how his ancestors owned black ppl.
It is funny this thing about "calling ppl who hold a different opinion facist" like nah bro! Trump's own current Vice President called him "Hitler" before 😂 , Elon musk has agreed with white nationalists and Nazis on twitter and then went to do a picture perfect nazi-salute and the right started saying that this was because he is awkward and autistic.

destroyed cities by looting/rioting

No cities were destroyed, a couple of buildings burned, that's it. Even during the civil rights protests of MLK, things got messy; this is what is to be expected from protests as huge as BLM. Meanwhile, Trump literally sent a violent mob to invade the Capitol during the certification of the votes for the democratic elections..

ICE stuff is meh'y. One side shouts they "kidnap people and send them to camps", other side speak about illegal immigrants being simply deported (thou a tad bit to forcefully). I personally don't really know what is true, just saw riot like behaviour similar to BLM/Antifa in the YT propaganda given to me and hence why I added this to the list.

How would anyone know if it is true if the motherfuckers are hiding their faces with masks and going in untracked vehicles??? That's the whole issue! They know they are doing illegal shit, that's why they hide their faces, because there will be consequences. Also, how do we even know they are from ICE? any criminal group could just pretend they are ICE 😂

In all those topics there were a lot of people going bananas cause they saw the situation as a green light to be evil. And that is the only thing I had in mind while I wrote my comment.

What about the ppl who invaded the capitol and were later pardoned by Trump? This is literally a green light to be evil.

I only heard about people reporting those who are openly being happy that someone murdered Charlie

nope, go check the list again, many of those only shared Charlie's literal quotes. Calling for violence is literally illegal btw, so for those, you just need to report them to the authorities~

and that will be it from me about politics in this manga comment section 😂

 

[TeadyBear123]

Fr, at every junction of this situation, they realized they handled in literally the worst way possible. They then ignore that realization and continue to make the worst possible decisions. It should be three strikes and you're out, but they're on six or seven now.

If I was the principal and heard all of this they would be imidetly fired like they aren’t just messing the kids up but the schools reputation (jp schools care a lot about reputation)

 

[xAKLx]

If I was the principal and heard all of this they would be imidetly fired like they aren’t just messing the kids up but the schools reputation (jp schools care a lot about reputation)

I would literally contact all schools to stop them from ever getting hired 😂, like holy shit, kids shouldn't be trusted with these fucks

 

[Insignis]

I would literally contact all schools to stop them from ever getting hired 😂, like holy shot, kids shouldn't be trusted with these fucks

Thats why the glasses one still being a teacher is kinda weird. The "neighbour" one decided to not be a teacher herself so she at least seems to have enough brain to understand how much of a fuck-up she was.

 

[wozbond]

A mental war is different from a physical one. At that current moment (when the three attackers have been subdued), there is no one else actively trying to hurt him. He could leave the classroom if he wanted as his classmates were already afraid of him at that point. If he was allowed to act further and he did beat up the entire class then he would be a revenge seeking bully, not someone who was in the right.

Pfffft. Keep pretending that mental attacks aren't hurtful.

Yes. He needs to wait for her to ATTEMPT to attack him otherwise it is no longer self defense. He could quite easily leave if he wanted to.

Again, she was attacking him mentally. Keep pretending that's somehow exempt from self defence or retaliation, enabler.

My point is that he could have attempted to leave as nothing was preventing him from doing so. But he didn't. Notice that your gasoline example could also be solved by leaving. The kids were planning on attacking him, sure. If that was the case then why didn't he try to leave at the first opportunity?

It disgusts me when enablers think the innocent victim is the one who should be forced to leave with his tail between his legs.

 

[Naruto031]

Kill em all

 

[Burner5]

Pfffft. Keep pretending that mental attacks aren't hurtful.

Mental attacks are DIFFERENT from physical. I am NOT saying that they don't hurt. What I AM saying is, it does not give you the right to attack someone physically.

Again, she was attacking him mentally. Keep pretending that's somehow exempt from self defence or retaliation, enabler.

It IS exempt from self defense! Self defense is a LAST RESORT where you feel that you are in immediate danger.

It disgusts me when enablers think the innocent victim is the one who should be forced to leave with his tail between his legs.

Do you know WHY I am arguing he should leave? It is because in a self-defense situation, he should not me the arbitor of justice. He should be trying to minimise the current damage to himself as much as possible. That involves leaving and getting a representative of the law of that area (like a staff member, another teacher or the principal) to sort out the appropriate judgement.

Having the luxury to walk up and physically attack a new person (who was not physically violent nor restricting him) shows that he is currently in control of the situation. As such, he is not in danger. Thus no action he takes (except leaving or inaction) could be argued in self defense.

 

[wozbond]

Do you know WHY I am arguing he should leave? It is because in a self-defense situation, he should not me the arbitor of justice. He should be trying to minimise the current damage to himself as much as possible. That involves leaving and getting a representative of the law of that area (like a staff member, another teacher or the principal) to sort out the appropriate judgement.

Pffffft. Because appealing to his superiors has worked soooo well up this point. When everyone has demonstrated they are his enemy, including the adults, your belief that he's not in danger is ludicrous. Which part of the teachers standing there and WATCHING him being beaten are you having trouble acknowledging?

 

[Burner5]

Pffffft. Because appealing to his superiors has worked soooo well up this point. When everyone has demonstrated they are his enemy, including the adults, your belief that he's not in danger is ludicrous. Which part of the teachers standing there and WATCHING him being beaten are you having trouble acknowledging?

He should get OTHER teachers involved as it is ALREADY SHOWN that he gets along with them. He could have quite easily gotten other teachers involved.

Speaking of teachers, the two teachers who were there were watching only out of shock. First at him getting beaten up (hell they were even moving to stop the kids fron beating him further). Then they were frozen in shock at how he retaliated. They would not have beaten him further. After he beat up the three agressors, he was not in any IMMEDIATE danger.

Let me put it this way: A guy is getting beaten up by three thugs while a bystander is cheering on. That guy then knocks out the three thugs and then proceeds to attack the bystander who isn't preventing him from leaving, that guy would be committing assault. Just because someone is your "enemy" doesn't mean that you can assault them.

 

[xAKLx]

That involves leaving and getting a representative of the law of that area (like a staff member, another teacher or the principal) to sort out the appropriate judgement.

Let's say he brings another adult. Who are they going to believe? this kid? or the whole class, including the teachers? Everyone has already accused him of something he didn't do, they would just lie again. This has to be the most retarded take ever 😭🙏🏾 (and yes, I know what comes next)

Having the luxury to walk up and physically attack a new person (who was not physically violent nor restricting him) shows that he is currently in control of the situation. As such, he is not in danger. Thus no action he takes (except leaving or inaction) could be argued in self defense.

Maybe legally, but what happens when he is no longer in control? Does he need to wait to get jumped again when he is not expecting it? I mean, with how the teachers have behaved during this whole arc, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that they would each grab an arm => other kids start beating him => the teachers keep him restrained while doing the Pikachu face and saying "no! don't hurt him! what are you doing guys!". You might think this is a fantastical scenario, but just remember how ridiculous everything that has led to this was

 

[Burner5]

Let's say he brings another adult. Who are they going to believe? this kid? or the whole class, including the teachers? Everyone has already accused him of something he didn't do, they would just lie again. This has to be the most retarded take ever 😭🙏🏾 (and yes, I know what comes next)

I am not saying he should bring another adult into the classroom. What I AM saying is he LEAVE THE AREA ENTIRELY! Whether it is going to another class or even running to the police. Once you start being an aggressor, you lose the right to self-defense. The girl was not an immediate threat to him, not because she's female but, because she was not doing anything physically to him and even backed off after he dealt with the real threats. In that scenario he was the aggressor.

Maybe legally, but what happens when he is no longer in control? Does he need to wait to get jumped again when he is not expecting it? I mean, with how the teachers have behaved during this whole arc, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that they would each grab an arm => other kids start beating him => the teachers keep him restrained while doing the Pikachu face and saying "no! don't hurt him! what are you doing guys!". You might think this is a fantastical scenario, but just remember how ridiculous everything that has led to this was

I get that you hate the teachers. However, you are just making up scenarios just to make a false equivalency.
In the same vain, who is to say that if he did try to assault everyone here that they don't later gang up on him harder? What would stop the kids who already got beaten up today from getting revenge with everyone involved? Hell, after they realise that he'll beat EVERYONE up what is to stop the nonphysical participants from getting physical now?
See this is an arguement that will devel into whataboutism so there isn't much point in going this road.

 

[Kimochi-kun]

Wow, you guys are still going, but in a loop.

A day has passed and neither side backs down and keep repeating the points they have made before over and over again.

Don't mind me tho, keep going.

I'll take my popcorn.

 

[xAKLx]

What I AM saying is he LEAVE THE AREA ENTIRELY!

And what exactly would that accomplish? he would just get jumped again the next day. Maybe he will change schools, and these kids will either follow him to jump him again or incite kids from that school to do the same. Remember, these satan spawns planned to beat him up, they did, while the rest cheered, "beat him into a pulp". You prefer a negative peace which is the absence of tension, to a positive peace which is the presence of justice

What would stop the kids who already got beaten up today from getting revenge with everyone involved?

Maybe the fact that they failed? think about, in this scenario we got, only 3 kids got beaten, and the rest got protected, which mean that maybe they could deal with him together next time. If he was allowed to beat EVERYONE then they would actually be scared because they would know pain. Regardless, in both scenarios, there's a danger of retaliation, so I would they get at least a little bit of punishment

See this is an arguement that will devel into whataboutism so there isn't much point in going this road.

sure, in both cases things can end badly, for some reason you prefer the case where the bullies get protected, that's the only difference between your scenario and mine.

 

[xAKLx]

Wow, you guys are still going, but in a loop.

A day has passed and neither side backs down and keep repeating the points they have made before over and over again.

Don't mind me tho, keep going.

I'll take my popcorn.

give me a break, we novel readers were waiting for this chapter to drop for years 😂 Seeing that you are the audience of this argument, which side is winning? the pro-bully side or the pro-bullied side?

 

[Kimochi-kun]

give me a break, we novel readers were waiting for this chapter to drop for years 😂 Seeing that you are the audience of this argument, which side is winning? the pro-bully side or the pro-bullied side?

I've said my opinion about this chapter in this forum

Feel free to look it up

As for who is winning? Neither honestly

 

[Migoo]

In fact, he got brainwashed

I really hope this part of the WN, and the stupid

 

[Burner5]

Wow, you guys are still going, but in a loop.

A day has passed and neither side backs down and keep repeating the points they have made before over and over again.

Don't mind me tho, keep going.

I'll take my popcorn.

Hope you're enjoying the show. It's been fun for me.

I've said my opinion about this chapter in this forum

Feel free to look it up

As for who is winning? Neither honestly

To be honest I realised that it was a fruitless effort to argue my point in terms of convincing the other side. They are a "no wrong tactics, only wrong targets" while I am more "thinking about the societal and moral rammifications of unchecked vengence" type.