Ore ni Trauma wo Ataeta Joshi-tachi ga Chirachira Mitekuru kedo, Zannen desu ga Teokure desu - Vol. 6 Ch. 26.1 - 「The Worst Outcome」

[xAKLx]

Still applies. Let's look at two cases, MC is innocent and MC is guilty

it is the same amount of assumptions really, you are just combining all of the assumptions of the case where he is guilty in a single one, see. for when he is not guilty you separated it into "someone stole" "someone put the mirror in place" "reason why they did it", but for when he is guilty you combined the action, place, and reason in a single one. to make it equivalent, it should be:
The mc stole the thing
The mc put the thing in a his desk
He put the thing in his desk instead of his backpack because he is dumb.

I can also make the other scenario shorter:
Someone stole the mirror to frame the MC

There are 3 assumptions going on for both scenarios. Who stole the thing, who put the thing in the desk, why they did it.

Weren't your complaints about how they put him in the spotlight? At least you now acknowledge they did try to handle it privately

That was the next day, and it was about something else where he was not the culprit; it was about the bullying. This is not them protecting him~ this is them protecting the bullies 😂 because they would be the ones put into the spotlight

 

[Burner5]

it is the same amount of assumptions really, you are just combining all of the assumptions of the case where he is guilty in a single one, see. for when he is not guilty you separated it into "someone stole" "someone put the mirror in place" "reason why they did it", but for when he is guilty you combined the action, place, and reason in a single one. to make it equivalent, it should be:
The mc stole the thing
The mc put the thing in a his desk
He put the thing in his desk instead of his backpack because he is dumb.

I can also make the other scenario shorter:
Someone stole the mirror to frame the MC

There are 3 assumptions going on for both scenarios. Who stole the thing, who put the thing in the desk, why they did it.

Three things:
1st) your third assumption of motive ascribes a lack of intelligence to his actions when there could be a multitude of other reasons to why the mc could have put it in his desk hypothetically.
2nd) Your shortened scenario ignores where the item was found (the mc's desk).
3rd)Those two different scenarios have vastly different proofs. The scenario where the MC is innocent requires evidence of the MC's alibi (something they didn't have until the next day at which point it is harder to use as evidence due to a mixture of "rightious" arrogance and the evidence mainly coming from the MC) and some evidence of another party's involvement. The scenario where the MC is guilty required no extra evidence than whst was present.

That was the next day, and it was about something else where he was not the culprit; it was about the bullying. This is not them protecting him~ this is them protecting the bullies 😂 because they would be the ones put into the spotlight

That was them protecting the bullies by seperating the victim from the bullies while the class is siding with the bullies? From who? Your hatred of the teachers is coloring their actions such that every action they committ seems malicious.

 

[asphyxiav2]

Damn you two are still at it?

 

[xAKLx]

1st) your third assumption of motive ascribes a lack of intelligence to his actions when there could be a multitude of other reasons to why the mc could have put it in his desk hypothetically.

same with your "this was done to either protect their identity or to frame the MC", there could be a multitude of other reasons why the thief put it there, hell! we are assuming that theft happened in the first place, maybe the teacher just lost it and someone saw it there and put it in the desk because they were cleaning or something and forgot to grab it back and put it in the missing items thing.

2nd) Your shortened scenario ignores where the item was found (the mc's desk).

it doesn't as that shortened scenario includes (to frame the mc)

The scenario where the MC is innocent requires evidence of the MC's alibi

It really doesn't; the MC could have no alibi and still be innocent. If the stolen thing was found on his person, it would be another thing.

The scenario where the MC is guilty required no extra evidence than whst was present.

It actually requires motive. Especially taking into consideration that he is a boy, so he is less likely to want a female teacher's item. It also requires actual evidence that they stole it. Even if he did put it in his desk, it doesn't mean he stole it, he could've just found it. The first question should've been "why is this item in your desk"

That was them protecting the bullies by seperating the victim from the bullies while the class is siding with the bullies? From who?

from the teacher scolding them???? The bullies felt justified because the teachers were on their side, and the teachers' scolding them for the bullying could, at the very least, reduce their sense of righteousness. Nothing was achieved by "separating the victim from the bullies" in the situation where the bullies are the ones in the wrong. How can't you see this? When the MC was "the one in the wrong" he got a public scolding. When the bullies were the ones in the wrong, they got scot-free, and the MC was called to the teacher's office. tbf, the glasses teacher was about to scold them publicly and got interrupted by the MC, but well, in the end she didn't do it

 

[xAKLx]

Damn you two are still at it?

what can I do if this person either lies or completely forgets how events played out? 💀

 

[asphyxiav2]

what can I do if this person either lies or completely forgets how events played out? 💀

I see...

 

[Burner5]

Damn you two are still at it?

I'm arguing what I believe and am too invested to not want a resolution. Also if someone constantly belittles me and lies about my points, of course I'd argue back.

 

[asphyxiav2]

I'm arguing what I believe and am too invested to not want a resolution. Also if someone constantly belittles me and lies about my points, of course I'd argue back.

I see...

26.2 is now available to read btw

 

[Burner5]

same with your "this was done to either protect their identity or to frame the MC", there could be a multitude of other reasons why the thief put it there, hell! we are assuming that theft happened in the first place, maybe the teacher just lost it and someone saw it there and put it in the desk because they were cleaning or something and forgot to grab it back and put it in the missing items thing.

It was assumed to be a theft as the victim treated it as such. However, it is true that there is a multitude of reasons why the item could be put in the MC's desk. I just listed the two most likely in the event that A) the MC is innocent and B) a theft did occur.

it doesn't as that shortened scenario includes (to frame the mc)

It really doesn't; the MC could have no alibi and still be innocent. If the stolen thing was found on his person, it would be another thing.

Let's pose this example: a person in a workplace has been killed and there are no known suspects just after the murder. However, a day later police find a weapon with the blood of the victim on it in the locker of a worker.
Wouldn't you say at that moment that person there is the most suspcious person there? If that person doesn't present a plaussible alibi, then they are likely to be arrested then and there.
This is an extreme example of basically what happened from the teacher's perspective.

It actually requires motive. Especially taking into consideration that he is a boy, so he is less likely to want a female teacher's item. It also requires actual evidence that they stole it. Even if he did put it in his desk, it doesn't mean he stole it, he could've just found it. The first question should've been "why is this item in your desk"

"He's a boy so he's less likely to want a female teacher's item." is a very naive viewpoint. There are a lot of unhealthy actions boys can take when expressing attraction at a young age.

from the teacher scolding them???? The bullies felt justified because the teachers were on their side, and the teachers' scolding them for the bullying could, at the very least, reduce their sense of righteousness. Nothing was achieved by "separating the victim from the bullies" in the situation where the bullies are the ones in the wrong. How can't you see this? When the MC was "the one in the wrong" he got a public scolding. When the bullies were the ones in the wrong, they got scot-free, and the MC was called to the teacher's office. tbf, the glasses teacher was about to scold them publicly and got interrupted by the MC, but well, in the end she didn't do it

The teachers were trying to scold the bullies in the morning. Hell, they wanted the bullies to confess their actions. However, in the middle of them SCOLDING THE CLASS, the MC interrupted them and basically said he'll take matters into his own hands..

 

[Veruschka]

Holy shit 18 pages

 

[Rorozeus]

Common notion, "Violence isn't right".

And one can say, everything we see from previous chapter onwards was actually planned y MC, including him getting mobbed and beaten, and waiting for the teachers to appear before countering back.

So its ok to be on the bullying/violent side if its the majority then? What else was he supposed to do since Noone believed him in the first place. Sure "violence isn't right" but I bet you they wont do stupid shit like that again. People need to see consequences for their actions, one way or another. MC was in the right.

 

[Morose]

So its ok to be on the bullying/violent side if its the majority then? What else was he supposed to do since Noone believed him in the first place. Sure "violence isn't right" but I bet you they wont do stupid shit like that again. People need to see consequences for their actions, one way or another. MC was in the right.

I just answered to your point of,

How tf is he not in the right??

The reply wasn't my personal opinion, its just social opinion.

(i probably wasn't clear while expressing that point)

 

[Finalegend]

This manga is hilarious.
And the people who think this is somewhat realistic are hilarious too.

 

[Skeyorel]

Y’all typed up 5 pages of a single argument.
i am bewildered by your commitment.

 

[Dylan0223]

Another delay, another excuse on the afterwords. I hope you don't get tired of reading my excuses View attachment 31154

Edit: whoa the forum is getting heated.🫠

No! Don't do it Mococoæ! Leave it alone, it's just a puffball!

 

[aixt]

"We live now in an equal society"
Damn... Let those bitches taste the fists of equality.

 

[alucard680]

I knew it would be brutal
But I wasn't expecting snapping fingers, breaking knees, smashing noses levels of brutal.

And...yeah. He's not in the right, but he's absolutely not incorrect about any of it.

Everyone else really brought this on themselves.

In the LN the beating is longer, he beat the first kid a lot more.

 

[lovolo]

Funny you say that cause the one wearing glasses did actually slap him. All he needed to do was to report this to his parents, his parents spreading the word and regardless whether if he's right or not, the school would be pressured in doing something. Maybe not fired her on spot but something.
This is more on the morality side. Both teachers done goofed, however the one with glasses, arguably the worse one out of the 2 since she's the one that made him public target with her moral grandstanding, and is the one that physically attack him, basically got a slap,on the wrist compare to the other one who basically got her life fucked

What happened with temp teacher? How is her life fucked?

 

[Hexcalliber__2002]

What happened with temp teacher? How is her life fucked?

I think it was said in her introduction chapter that her was infertile, so her husband and his family just cast her out, and due to the event took place here, she never went back to teaching. So her marriage and career is essentially fucked.

 

[maylsmallow]

Yep. Violence with violence. I did it once when I was in 3rd grade of elementary, they use physical on me so I did as well well it's fortunately??? that no parents was/were called guess they know it's bad they are bully.