Ore no Shibou Flag ga Todomaru Tokoro wo Shiranai - Ch. 69 - Familiar Sight

[Gudachiz]

im also a part of a scanlator group just a proofreader though, just like what happened here the problem really lies with how much the scanlator picks a series but cant deliver what expected for them to do especially if they do haggle a couple of works that are really good.

honestly this would be nice if the said thing was a job,
this isn't, people literally do this because they like manga,
some people charge money but that's for you to support their efforts and if you care about their situation or not like kireicake's case where she has to take care of her chronically ill mother

not all readers have the time to search for answers why x(manga) stopped updating etc. and find it on reddit or other social media sites the answer they seek. The scanlator has the sole responsibility for it regardless of irl situation he had.

yes and its on r/manga and i linked x or y reason because you could literally google kirei cake and it comes out the first search result

Just please if your a scanlator just admit if you cant do it give it up or just seek help from others to make things easier.

there's no time limit for when they uploads are supposed to be tho, this isn't a job, this is something people do at the side and may occasionally earn from through donos if anything
there are people who may do this full time sure and may be commissioned to scanlate(i know someone who does everything from cleaning, redrawing and translating and gets paid good money for it) sure but that's not indicative of every person in the space
and again there's really nothing in the tos for this to be considered a "fuck up on their part"
because its not, uploading your own translation of a manga is well within the tos of mangadex

 

[Crim]

I am gonna be completely blunt. Why the hell you even have rules about that especially with this much of a delay?

We live in a age of free market. If free market endorse snipers then that means you failed to deliver good product. In fact, i would argue its extremely healthy for multiple groups to take on the same project as it creates competition rather than current situation that's just glorified childrens playground logic.

I think it's partly a common courtesy type thing, but I think the concept originated from ye olde scans days; the problem has been all but completely forgotten now, but back in the day there was a huge issue where everyone and their mother was translating chapters. You would have 10+ groups putting out chapters, all with varying quality at varying times, and there was huge drama constantly between groups like "hey that's my page look at the pixels" or "your translation is shit die", etc--if you think the current situation is schoolyard, this was another level.

The general consensus and unofficial "rule" (though in some places it has been made official) made by the community at large to combat this was "one group per series," but all of this is ancient history at this point. If the two groups talked about it then I retract my statement, it just can unfortunately happen a lot where a group that has dropped a series for an extended period of time sees a new translation trying to revive the series and then oh-so-happen to release new chapters to discourage the new group, only to drop it again, which is really poor form imo. If that's not the case here that's my bad, it's just certainly what it looked like.

 

[exxeld]

listen im sure it helps to get donations but isnt it embarrassing to immediately upload stockpiled tls after another group gets interested when you haven't done shit for the series in months

 

[HayashidaYuki]

a lot of groups are pretty chill with having more than 1 scanlator, its fans of the tls that aren't

Not for Kirei, no. There was one time when they sent a message to someone to take down their uploaded chapter just because they are "still working" on the chapter. After months, mind you.

who cares what they use? they have a preferred platform where people can check because that's what they prefer for more common updates

Then don't blame people for not using reddit. What on reddit stays on reddit. If they want the post to be relevant, then don't post only on reddit, simple.

you're really just making excuses to attack a group unjustified
stop making justifications to be a jerk

Okay? Why are you trying to villainize me for something that I didn't do?

READING FOR FREE

Weird how you are emphasizing this on almost every comment just to shut down criticism.

 

[Gudachiz]

Not for Kirei, no. There was one time when they sent a message to someone to take down their uploaded chapter just because they are "still working" on the chapter. After months, mind you.

when was this? i am not aware

Then don't blame people for not using reddit. What on reddit stays on reddit. If they want the post to be relevant, then don't post only on reddit, simple.

I don't see how its important either way, point is there's really no issue if someone snipes something, there's also really nothing anyone can do if a title is "sniped"

Okay? Why are you trying to villainize me for something that I didn't do?

not you specifically, i speak generally

Weird how you are emphasizing this on almost every comment just to shut down criticism.

because i don't consider it criticism, its people whining about having another option to read from for a manga title
which is fucking weird regardless how people spin it
and this would be perfectly fine to call it criticism if the quality was lower than usual and people said that or if it looks rushed
but people are literally complaining about them posting, when its not against tos to post 2 scanlations of the same language for 1 manga

 

[fachrystrife]

Is this new galaxy mk2? 🤔

 

[ZenMasters]

I vote for Jail Bird.

 

[Grye]

hmmm
sus timing

 

[viliml]

there's the thread explaining their thing, also again, who cares if they upload after someone else did? READ BOTH, I do be cause i like seeing different takes on the words and each group would have different things they clean and redraw and things they don't clean and redraw, again stop acting like uploading a chapter after someone did is some kind of crime, its not, the reason doesn't matter and both parties already settled things AMICABLY so your thoughts on the matter are IRRELEVANT and there is STILL NO JUSTIFICATION TO ACT LIKE A JERK because of an upload

also again let me remind you, you are READING FOR FREE

https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/1e1bkw9

No, that thread doesn't in fact explain ANYTHING about the situation at hand.
It lists this manga as "high priority and are being actively worked on. They will be caught up with ASAP, so do not worry about them", yet someone else managed to release two chapters before he did even one.

 

[Gudachiz]

No, that thread doesn't in fact explain ANYTHING about the situation at hand.
It lists this manga as "high priority and are being actively worked on. They will be caught up with ASAP, so do not worry about them", yet someone else managed to release two chapters before he did even one.

your opinion on the thing doesn't matter because the 2 group leads have talked and have settled things amicably
so it doesn't really matter what you or what anyone else thinks,
the 2 groups involved are peachy and only some readers take offense to it as if its such a big deal

 

[asphyxiav2]

Chapter 69 with 69 comments😭 brothers and sisters please stop arguing😭

 

[HayashidaYuki]

when was this? i am not aware

A year ago. Funnily, the series also ended a year ago, while the other translator has finished it somewhere else, they are still 7 chapters behind and hasn't uploaded any chapter ever since.

 

[TetraSky]

Hahaha, we all called it. Literally everyone did. We knew Kirei would release a chapter the second someone else picked it up. Gotta stake your claim eh

 

[HayashidaYuki]

Chapter 69 with 69 comments😭 brothers and sisters please stop arguing😭

You need to unfollow this thread bro. No need to feel bad about something you didn't do.

 

[asphyxiav2]

You need to unfollow this thread bro. No need to feel bad about something you didn't do.

Man, I really need to think about it real hard if I really should/want to pick this up😭

 

[RonBWL]

honestly this would be nice if the said thing was a job,
this isn't, people literally do this because they like manga,
some people charge money but that's for you to support their efforts and if you care about their situation or not like kireicake's case where she has to take care of her chronically ill mother

I've been around since this joke existed forever... But yeah, never had any issue continuing Kirei Cake's work, whether they drop it or not

there's no time limit for when they uploads are supposed to be tho, this isn't a job, this is something people do at the side and may occasionally earn from through donos if anything

That said, I think everyone's piling on the "3 months rules" because originally it was 6 (but of course, if OP get banned after asking KC if they could take over, that's another story

there are people who may do this full time sure and may be commissioned to scanlate(i know someone who does everything from cleaning, redrawing and translating and gets paid good money for it) sure but that's not indicative of every person in the space

I know solo scanners doing a better job than this. Least OP could do is to at least translate the chapter title, like come on, why going through the entire hassle only to leave out the thing that the author came up with every chapter?

and again there's really nothing in the tos for this to be considered a "fuck up on their part"
because its not, uploading your own translation of a manga is well within the tos of mangadex

Funny enough, everyone thinks snipers would get mobbed out of the platform, while in reality it's the opposite - people piling up on KC in hope they'd give up and let OP take over... because they need their douse of free scans fast, no matter the cost.

 

[RonBWL]

Man, I really need to think about it real hard if I really should/want to pick this up😭

I would give you some advice on how to make this actually a good effort pick, rather than "oh this popular series is late, I could pull a ComicDom and make some quick bucks". Apologize if this offend you, but both releases badly need some QoL improvement, we live in 2024 now and this kind of efforts could easily be mistook for a scambaiting, if I was to be honest.

 

[asphyxiav2]

I would give you some advice on how to make this actually a good effort pick, rather than "oh this popular series is late, I could pull a ComicDom and make some quick bucks". Apologize if this offend you, but both releases badly need some QoL improvement, we live in 2024 now and this kind of efforts could easily be mistook for a scambaiting, if I was to be honest.

Don't worry, I'm not even that focus on donations, I'm only doing this as a hobby, I'm not forcing anyone to donate to me, I know I am still lacking in a lot of ways but I don't have enough resources to grow drastically. I don't even mind if this chapters or any of my scanlating mangas get snipped as long as my readers gets consistent updates. Though I feel a little hurt that my good intentions was being seen like that by some people I don't blame you for it. And with this I'll announce officially, I'll just going to step down on this project and just find other dropped projects to scanlate.


Have a wonderful rest of the day/night.

Edit: to preserve the organized stuff. Imma just try to get a back up and delete my uploads later.

Edit2: I won't delete them after all since that might put Kirei-san into a much tighter position. But rest assured I won't touch anything kirei or any other big scanlation team's left overs.

 

[jonsmth]

A tsundere's headpat

 

[TetraSky]

I'll just going to step down on this project and just find other dropped projects to scanlate.

Welp, it was good while it lasted.

Always the same thing that happens. Literally every time. With every series.

-Old group doesn't upload for months.
-New group comes in and releases chapter(s).
-Old group comes out of the woodwork pretending they still care and release 1 to 3 chapters in quick successions.
-New group runs off after seeing the old group come back.
-Old group goes back on hiatus for a few months.
-Repeat.

One way or another, this always happen.
This is probably why lots of us wanted you to continue regardless and showed hate toward Kirei for doing this same old tired bs as expected. Even if it's "free", it's still doesn't sit right with us that they do this (we literally all knew they would do it, as seen in the comments of the chapter you uploaded)

I am fully expecting this series to not see that much more uploads in the future. Unfortunately.

Thank you for your work. Looking forward to seeing what project you pick up.