Ori no Naka - Ch. 15 - Beyond the Dream

[Robfaw]

• The guy’s husband stalked them
• He really enjoyed it and then they start doing it in her home until her husband finds out

I’m out of ideas.

During this time the husband just got home early from the work trip. Turned on their projector-tv and saw a dude jerking it to pads in a stall😭

 

[Judaskiss]

heart eyes

Calling it now, I believe it’s pronounced… “ménage à trois”?

 

[Alacran]

Whether you think her behavior is fair is irrelevant: you can invent justifications for a behavior pattern, it doesn't suddenly stop the behavior pattern from existing.

I can't lie this is pretty weird framing. I'm even inclined to believe she's making her husband's actions or her husband up entirely. But if what she says it's true it's not just some "justification", or even weirder is saying it reflects "poorly" on her to seek an actual relationship outside of her abusive one. Because it'd be "cheating" still? That's just sounds very strange.

 

[CulturalDuck]

Still not buying that the husband exists, and her reactions and 'eagerness' to try out sex stuff makes it seem like she doesn't have much experience.

 

[EonNite]

This is going better than I thought... Okay, okay.

 

[Rainmoarr]

SHE HIT HIM WITH THE GAWK GAWK 3000

 

[Doomroar]

They did not bough condoms, and there's no way this crazy woman is going to take any pills

Dammit he is gonna knock her up...

 

[Late_Komei]

They did not bough condoms, and there's no way this crazy woman is going to take any pills

Dammit he is gonna knock her up...

Don't these love hotels provide condoms?

Gomi is crazy if he's willing to hit it raw with her at this moment.

 

[Doomroar]

Don't these love hotels provide condoms?

Gomi is crazy if he's willing to hit it raw with her at this moment.

Some give you a couple with the room along with the keys, but she deliberately went to a cheap one

 

[Karoo13]

SHE HIT HIM WITH THE GAWK GAWK 3000

exactly what i thought of there too, its from kokan musou (unparalleled groin) ch9, its been purged from mangadex

 

[ultrabread]

But also we're so very not done guys. Sex is but a stepping stone here, this story is about getting dragged into the landscape (hellscape) of modern romance. Still we'll probably see an oddly sweet scene of him getting a walkthrough since she does have the patience of a saint despite literally driving an affair.

next chapter: unzips

 

[blulaz]

Lets go AMBATUKAAAAM

 

[dsfargeg]

I can't lie this is pretty weird framing. I'm even inclined to believe she's making her husband's actions or her husband up entirely. But if what she says it's true it's not just some "justification", or even weirder is saying it reflects "poorly" on her to seek an actual relationship outside of her abusive one. Because it'd be "cheating" still? That's just sounds very strange.

Yes, she is suffering, but if the source of her suffering is her unconfirmed abusive husband, do you think cheating on him actually solves that problem or does it just feel good now for worse consequences down the line? Is prioritizing her own desires really the best route forward for her, or is she just involving the protagonist in her dysfunctional coping mechanisms by exploiting his desire to lose his virginity paired with the implicit threat of blackmail?

Do you think entering a relationship with a woman who relies on infidelity, blackmail, threats, and deception is going to end well for him? Even if you try to justify her behavior by pointing out all she's doing is perpetuating a cycle of abuse from which she is a victim, this doesn't change that she's choosing to perpetuate abuse.

 

[AcidVlad]

That's so fucked up



I love it

 

[Alacran]

Yes, she is suffering, but if the source of her suffering is her unconfirmed abusive husband, do you think cheating on him actually solves that problem or does it just feel good now for worse consequences down the line? Is prioritizing her own desires really the best route forward for her, or is she just involving the protagonist in her dysfunctional coping mechanisms by exploiting his desire to lose his virginity paired with the implicit threat of blackmail?

Do you think entering a relationship with a woman who relies on infidelity, blackmail, threats, and deception is going to end well for him? Even if you try to justify her behavior by pointing out all she's doing is perpetuating a cycle of abuse from which she is a victim, this doesn't change that she's choosing to perpetuate abuse.

A lot of what you said is fair and understandable in the context of her herself the fucked up character. What's still just sticking with me is the underlying implication that if she didn't have all that going on with her she would still be in the wrong for wanting to "cheat" on the very abusive partner she has and that it's somehow a moral failing.

 

[dsfargeg]

A lot of what you said is fair and understandable in the context of her herself the fucked up character. What's still just sticking with me is the underlying implication that if she didn't have all that going on with her she would still be in the wrong for wanting to "cheat" on the very abusive partner she has and that it's somehow a moral failing.

The desire to escape abuse is normal, sane and healthy. Her moral failing is not that desire. Her moral failing is that she chose to rely on a dysfunctional coping method instead of escaping abuse.

You can't choose what you feel. You can only choose how you act on it.

 

[Jatopian]

"no need to go all out over a quickie" ? saying "let's take our clothes off" and going straight sucking his dick without making out or anything ?

They already made out. It still counts if it happened last chapter.

A lot of what you said is fair and understandable in the context of her herself the fucked up character. What's still just sticking with me is the underlying implication that if she didn't have all that going on with her she would still be in the wrong for wanting to "cheat" on the very abusive partner she has and that it's somehow a moral failing.

Firstly, you now admit that you are arguing about a hypothetical that doesn't describe the manga this is supposedly a comments section for. Just throwing that out there.

Secondly, she already admitted she's a bad person, so maybe you should accept her own opinion instead of talking over her.

Thirdly, having sex doesn't do shit to escape the relationship. They have divorce in Japan; assuming the husband even exists, she should be documenting any abuse and initiating divorce proceedings. If she needs to do something underhanded with our protagonist, it should be moving into his apartment to escape her supposed husband, instead of going to a love hotel.

 

[Ninja]

Thirdly, having sex doesn't do shit to escape the relationship. They have divorce in Japan; assuming the husband even exists, she should be documenting any abuse and initiating divorce proceedings. If she needs to do something underhanded with our protagonist, it should be moving into his apartment to escape her supposed husband, instead of going to a love hotel.

If she isn't lying about the abuse she doesn't owe him anything or any formality like divorce to anyone. As I understand divorce in Japan is difficult.

 

[Jatopian]

If she isn't lying about the abuse she doesn't owe him anything or any formality like divorce to anyone. As I understand divorce in Japan is difficult.

Marriage is, itself, a formality. Part of the point is that it is a social and legal commitment that can't be trivially exited! If she didn't want the strictures of formality she should not have gotten married, and stayed as an unwed couple.

 

[tomo83]

i lobe this manga. its so peak. idk why it has such low ratings its like my davorite manga on mangadex rn