Otoko Girai na Bijin Shimai wo Namae mo Tsugezu ni Tasuketara Ittai Dounaru? - Vol. 2 Ch. 7

[Axccel]

What these girls are feeling is unhealthy and obsessive. They're victims of molestation and harassment that have never been able to trust men before, and then when they were about to be raped by a man they were saved by another man, who is now the sole man in their entire life that they have been able to trust and rely on. Because of this, they've developed an obsessive level of sexual desire for him. What they are feeling for him does not come out of a place of genuine love, but rather trauma, emotional repression and primal mating instinct.

The correct way to go about this situation from his perspective is to encourage them to see a psychiatrist for a minimum period of time, 6 months at least, to process their trauma (both recent and past) and how it's influencing their feelings about him, the man who saved them. At the same time encourage them to exercise and train in martial arts so that they can gain the ability to defend themselves physically against men, like they weren't able to last time, so that they develop sense of control and power.

While they're getting therapy and addressing their own issues, keep a platonic amount of distance between him and them. Tell them that if they are able to commit to the therapy and martial arts and achieve balanced mental states, he will consider responding to their feelings, but so long as they are in an unstable, obsessive and post-trauma state of mind he will not entertain their advances even a little bit.

If he goes on his current path and has sexual relations with them, he will be taking advantage of their unstable mental state and building a shallow and profoundly unhealthy relationship based on a foundation of pure carnal impulse. Such a relationship is destined to end in pain and suffering for both him and them.

Victims of molestation and harassment? The former, yes, but the story went out of its way to specify that this had no effect on them as they didn't think anything of it. Harassment? First, that's not true. Just flat-out you made that up in your mind to try to justify their behavior. Second, victims of harassment? Nothing that could even remotely be considered harassment, baring the actual molestation, would make them "victims". They weren't being groped by random men and stuff or anything like that. A victim is someone who is harmed. Someone at worst catcalling them (which I don't think even happened, but I could be remembering wrong) is not victimizing them. You use that word extremely loosely and degrade everyone who is a real victim. The only thing they're a victim of is pedophilia. Which, though terrible, again the story went out of its way to make it clear that this did not have an effect on them. Not sure why the mangaka did that, but, that's what the story says.

And, seriously, if harassment is enough to make you a yandere lunatic, you are extremely disturbed and it has nothing to do with the harassment.

No, these girls are simply sick in the head by nature, probably a birth defect in their brains, and you are the kind of person who enables this behavior by making excuses for people who really do hate easily. Nevermind the obvious fact that it's wrong for them to project their feelings on everyone. Their behavior is clearly completely different from how girls normally react to the same stimuli that was presented thus far in the manga. Like the short-haired girl overhearing boys complimenting their bodies in a conversation that she was not part of and heard by accident. A normal girl would feel flattered, even if also maybe awkward and self-conscious about her body's changes as she is in puberty. Or perhaps it could be said she'd feel better about it because of the compliments. And, y'know, because girls are lustful. Far more so than boys, really.

As for taking advantage of their "unstable mental state", no, again you are wrong. Their mental instability is that they hate men. Their lust for him is simply natural because he saved them. It's not taking advantage of, is basic survival instincts. "He saved me, so he can protect me". The only reason you think it's a sign of mental instability is because you've been so brainwashed by modern liberal beliefs that you think women wanting a man who saved them is crazy and that he'd be taking advantage of them if he accepted instead of the truth: it's just common sense to for women to want a man who will protect them and this is, in fact, good.

You have created an entirely imaginary situation in which the main character is either the bad guy or a problem simply because women he rescued are crushing on him for saving them. Which is fitting, as this story is also imaginary. But, it indicates pretty bad things about your mental stability that girls wanting a guy who saved them causes you to perceive it like this.

 

[Axccel]

...am I reading the wrong manga? Did they just coom from having their names said? This is a manga about two misandric sisters falling in love and not about an isekai'd streamer right?

It's more about two misandric yandere sisters finding a target for their obsession.

The twist, as it were, is that he is clearly genre savvy enough to realize the situation he's in and he's barely keeping himself from having a panic attack at having two yandere after him. He seems painfully aware of how badly this could go for him.

 

[shadowtempestdemon]

Victims of molestation and harassment? The former, yes, but the story went out of its way to specify that this had no effect on them as they didn't think anything of it. Harassment? First, that's not true. Just flat-out you made that up in your mind to try to justify their behavior. Second, victims of harassment? Nothing that could even remotely be considered harassment, baring the actual molestation, would make them "victims". They weren't being groped by random men and stuff or anything like that. A victim is someone who is harmed. Someone at worst catcalling them (which I don't think even happened, but I could be remembering wrong) is not victimizing them. You use that word extremely loosely and degrade everyone who is a real victim. The only thing they're a victim of is pedophilia. Which, though terrible, again the story went out of its way to make it clear that this did not have an effect on them. Not sure why the mangaka did that, but, that's what the story says.

And, seriously, if harassment is enough to make you a yandere lunatic, you are extremely disturbed and it has nothing to do with the harassment.

No, these girls are simply sick in the head by nature, probably a birth defect in their brains, and you are the kind of person who enables this behavior by making excuses for people who really do hate easily. Nevermind the obvious fact that it's wrong for them to project their feelings on everyone. Their behavior is clearly completely different from how girls normally react to the same stimuli that was presented thus far in the manga. Like the short-haired girl overhearing boys complimenting their bodies in a conversation that she was not part of and heard by accident. A normal girl would feel flattered, even if also maybe awkward and self-conscious about her body's changes as she is in puberty. Or perhaps it could be said she'd feel better about it because of the compliments. And, y'know, because girls are lustful. Far more so than boys, really.

As for taking advantage of their "unstable mental state", no, again you are wrong. Their mental instability is that they hate men. Their lust for him is simply natural because he saved them. It's not taking advantage of, is basic survival instincts. "He saved me, so he can protect me". The only reason you think it's a sign of mental instability is because you've been so brainwashed by modern liberal beliefs that you think women wanting a man who saved them is crazy and that he'd be taking advantage of them if he accepted instead of the truth: it's just common sense to for women to want a man who will protect them and this is, in fact, good.

You have created an entirely imaginary situation in which the main character is either the bad guy or a problem simply because women he rescued are crushing on him for saving them. Which is fitting, as this story is also imaginary. But, it indicates pretty bad things about your mental stability that girls wanting a guy who saved them causes you to perceive it like this.

You seem to be forgetting that a man broke into their house, stripped them, tied them up and tried to rape them, so yes, they are indeed victims. Also, do not forget that this is a shitty pseudo-hentai and their behavior is not consistent with how actual people react to this kind of trauma.

I do not recall "excusing their actions". What I was trying to get across is that their actions and behavior are very unhealthy. They are fucked in the head right now and they need serious professional help. They are mentally ill and traumatized.

Cat-calling is harassment. Making crude sexual comments about a woman's body behind her back is objectifying, and it's patterns of that kind of behavior that turn boys into predators. That you expect women to feel flattered to be spoken about like meat speaks to your own attitudes. There's nothing unstable about girls developing a strong dislike for men who see them as sex objects. Especially in a country like japan that is still starkly patriarchal in its attitudes. Women are not more lustful than men overall, their sexual desire tends to fluctuate more over the long term. I find that assertion of yours concerning.

They are not simply "crushing on him", they are dangerously obsessed. I vaguely remember a scene in this manga where she had an orgasm from him saying her name, that is not a "crush". It is not a given that a woman will immediately fall in love with a man who saves her life, that is not how people work, and the behavior of these two girls is hardly realistic. I don't remember enough about this manga to speak to whether they were traumatized by the molestation or not. Most victims of CSA did not understand what was happening to them at the time, but they were still traumatized. Even if these girls weren't traumatized at the time because they didn't understand it, the hindsight would undoubtedly have an effect on their mental health. Barring that, they are certainly traumatized by the attempted rape. Combine the molestation and the attempted rape with their father being a deadbeat and the objectification of their peers (the comment that was shown is unlikely to be first time that has happened) and it's not unreasonable for them to be hostile towards men who approach them.

I'm not saying he's a problem. I'm saying he needs to be very fucking careful with how he deals with this situation, because they're not in their right minds right now and that makes them vulnerable. He should not have sex with vulnerable women. That would make him an asshole.

Not being delusional doesn't make me "brainwashed". I used to be very right-wing, but then I grew up. I started listening to people who weren't right-wing jackasses and stopped making excuses for said jackasses when they did and said horrible things, of which I have seen more than I can count.