Otoyomegatari - Ch. 112 - Marriage - Part 1 -

[2hot4you]

Based ali and madina

 

[Liar]

Bruh.

I wish dating was this easy. Holy shit.

 

[kiero13]

aw come on ali at least be a little more happy and romantic about it. you know how much courage it takes to admit and even ask someone for marriage?

 

[Angoldd]

Refreshing to see a woman that direct.

Mori-sensei keeps cooking as always.

Thanks for the TL!

 

[Kneel_Breen]

You're confusing a dowery with the concepts of bride price and dower.
It was paid to the father but it went to the bride. The dowery was then administered by her husband as part of the family assets. He had no say, however, in its ultimate disposal; and legally, the dowry had to be kept separate because it was intended to support the wife and her children if the husband died. There was no life insurance available, and that's essentially what the dowery was.
So the wife was entitled to her dowry at her husband's death. If she died childless, her dowry reverted to her family, first to her father if he was alive, otherwise her brothers. If she had sons, they would share it equally. Her dowry was inheritable only by her own children, not by her husband's other children or by other women.
Many married women often wore their dowery like you would jewelry with the coins attached to chains or cloth as a way to show off how much their husbands had paid for them.

I actually think there’s a bit of confusion on either the author’s part or the translation’s part, because the use of “dowry” in this chapter doesn’t really make sense.

With that said, there’s a lot of confusion between what is considered a dowry, dower, or bride price because while those are the words we have in Modern English, various cultures in the past and present haven’t treated them in exactly the same way we would think.

Basically, while the words and their definitions may have been translated fairly accurately, the cultural practices and intents behind them have not.

And before all of that, we’re talking about valuables being exchanged between two groups for the purpose of marriage. Even if the cultural practices were NOT about the greed, you’d still have people who would be essentially selling their child for their own benefit.

Dowry: A payment (money, land, property, etc) made by the BRIDE’S FAMILY to either the groom or the groom’s family BEFORE the wedding.

Dower: A payment (money, land, property, etc) made by the GROOM or GROOM’S FAMILY to the bride or the bride’s family AFTER the wedding took place. The dower could be intended as a sort of financial lifeline for the wife if the husband passed away.

Bride Price: Payment made by the GROOM or the GROOM’S FAMILY to the bride or the bride’s family BEFORE the wedding took place. This payment might have been used by the bride and/or her family to cover the costs for the wedding celebrations and/or the necessary household goods for afterwards.

Some cultures considered the dower and the bride price to be the same thing in that it was a payment made by the groom or the groom’s family toward the bride or the bride’s family.

 

[havelmom]

the serialization ordering is so strange compared to volume's
this chapter (109 V) has been out for a while now, its other parts as well

 

[havelmom]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE CHAPTER'S TOO SHORT

here
https://mangadex.org/chapter/ac65bf28-f91c-41a7-92c1-b63c82b82226
just learn portuguese

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

You're confusing a dowery with the concepts of bride price and dower.
It was paid to the father but it went to the bride. The dowery was then administered by her husband as part of the family assets. He had no say, however, in its ultimate disposal; and legally, the dowry had to be kept separate because it was intended to support the wife and her children if the husband died. There was no life insurance available, and that's essentially what the dowery was.
So the wife was entitled to her dowry at her husband's death. If she died childless, her dowry reverted to her family, first to her father if he was alive, otherwise her brothers. If she had sons, they would share it equally. Her dowry was inheritable only by her own children, not by her husband's other children or by other women.
Many married women often wore their dowery like you would jewelry with the coins attached to chains or cloth as a way to show off how much their husbands had paid for them.

We stil had girls literally talking about how it's the father's decision to marry his daughter to a guy or not. And we saw in the first big arc of the manga, how the daughter can be basically sold to abusive guy for the good of the clan. And even if father is trying to get a wealthy husband for his daughter, that still doesn't mean it's not with self-interest in mind, as wealthy son-in-law is better for father than poorer one, even if poorer one would be nicer to his wife. It was quite horrible life and customs compared to modern standards, though it was fine if you were lucky enough to not deal with shitty people.

 

[miyako19]

Freaking cute
Too bad maidens in love aren't real irl

Too bad good men aren't real irl

 

[namisora]

Let's goooo!

 

[boldmonkey]

Unrealistic situation for modern times

Far more unrealistic for back then.

 

[RandomnessOfTheMathWorld]

She's a keeper

 

[Ironclad]

Why can't my life be as straightforward as Ali's?

 

[RWorld]

Remember back when engagement rings weren't a thing yet, and people just went around asking for marriages?

 

[Seasicksheep]

"Sure, let's get married," Ali said and gave a casual shrug....

 

[Kromwulf]

here
https://mangadex.org/chapter/ac65bf28-f91c-41a7-92c1-b63c82b82226
just learn portuguese

I just happen to be brazilian, so that's a huge help =) thank you!

 

[silencers]

ALI DON'T FUMBLE THIS BAG

 

[Panino]

Having read this months ago, from what I remember there's a "surprise".

At the rate this is going, the entire cast will get married before Pariyah lmao

MY DAUGHTER IS TOO YOUNG TO MARRY YET!

 

[dghirsh]

well, not money~
kind of sus

see you next 8 month,
the author want to change magazine

Is this the latest chapter released in Japan?

 

[Aliy]

I read that way too quick… 🥺