Please have forum notifications separate from comment notifications.

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Please have one notification list for comments. And separately one for forum posts.

Maybe something where it lists all forum threads on your watch list in a list according to last reply like its own sub forum for you to see. Like a follows list for forum topics. This way one can easily keep track of forum discussions. I have seen this implemented on other forums and it works quite well.
 
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Any feedback for this suggestion? Is it understood? This isn't much different then a personal thread history with additional control over what's tracked and easy access. This makes it much easier to go back and check on a thread rather than save a bookmark for each and every thread you make.
 
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from what i know. they do plan a comment system overhaul at some point. your guess is as good as any for when it will happen though. They also plan to make the forums searchable. Whatever system they are working on i agree with you. It would be nice if there is a clear understanding of where the notification comes from.
 
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Comments and the forum are the same thing
 
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Comments and the forum are the same thing
If comments are just another forum, make them work like a proper forum like right here, like with threading and such. (and comments do need threading) But even if you actually made comments work more like forum, they still aren't the same thing and shouldn't be treated as such.

I shouldn't have to do a specific search on the forum to find my own threads to see what people said and reply. This is not a good system, well, to even call it a system, its not a good not system. We need something in place to make the forum more usable. Please comment on my suggestion Teasday.
 
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@truepurple No, I mean they're quite literally the same thing. Comment threads ARE forum threads. They use the exact same code, the same database, everything, there's literally no difference whatsoever. They're just rendered in a slightly different way in some views.

If you don't like the forums, that's a different conversation and it's being actively worked on and should be one of the next bigger updates.
 
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You aren't hearing me. Let's break this into parts.
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Primary, it is completely irrelevant to this suggestion whether you call comments forum threads or not. So please respond to the suggestion.
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Even if they use the same code forums are not the same as comments on how they work. Forum has threads and thread titles, comments has no threading and stupid random numbers.
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Comments and forums are different categories of things so should be treated thus by the system.
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Comments should also have threading and proper names. (do I need to make a new thread to post this suggestion?)
 
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Code question: is the comment "thread" title being used to store the chapter ID it's linked to or is it just being put there for lack of something better?

Would it be possible to pull the manga name, chapter number, and (optionally) the chapter title whenever it would render the title of a comment thread? Or would that be too much overhead/refactoring?

Was there a specific decision behind having one single comment dump thread for the manga themselves and not a subforum a la Batoto?

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As per the "Planned and Rejected Features: Read Beforehand" sticky thread above, "Subscribe to threads for notifications" is planned

Is there a specific reason you want replies to comments and replies to forum posts to be treated differently? Aside from the nebulous concept of them simply being "different"?
 
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@truepurple posted:

Comments should also have threading and proper names. (do I need to make a new thread to post this suggestion?)
But they do, see ^

The same applies to chapter comments:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/706210/comments
https://mangadex.org/thread/170338/1

Like I said, they're just rendered differently depending on the context
 
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@MrIncognito posted:

Would it be possible to pull the manga name, chapter number, and (optionally) the chapter title whenever it would render the title of a comment thread? Or would that be too much overhead/refactoring?
In the mention notifications instead of using the id? I don't see why it shouldn't be, though I haven't looked at that part of the code.
 
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Is there a specific reason you want replies to comments and replies to forum posts to be treated differently? Aside from the nebulous concept of them simply being "different"?

I am glad you asked that. Them being different isn't nebulous. Comments are when you talk about specific chapters. Forums are open ended general discussions you choose the topic of by giving a thread title.

It would be like saying living rooms and bedrooms aren't different things because they both use the exact same building materials, so why do we need walls separating them out?
Why? Because they serve different functions!

But furthermore, when you make your own threads, these are specific topics you wish to get into. Comments do tend to be more of a reply system where you have a bit of an exchange and move on. So having forum threads of yours that you are subscribed to showing in their own listing to easily get back to find and get back to the conversation makes more sense in that way than seeing a bunch of independent alerts that only appear if someone bothers to @name you. I suppose I got to @name my own self to put my own threads in my notifications so I can find it again latter on, or does it even work to @truepurple yourself? Yes it does. But one shouldn't have to go through such an inane cumbersome system. I'm suggesting a better way, and so far no one has commented on it yet.

Notifications get cluttered, if you want to find a old thread of yours to see what replies it's gotten but lots of people have @name'd you since then, you'll struggle to find it in your notification list. Which is another reason to have them separate. If they are separate lists you don't have as much to look through in your notifications trying to find one specific one.

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What about making each comic chapters comments, a forum, instead of a thread, that way there could be threads within that forum. That way different discussions don't get all mixed up and become relatively unreadable latter on. Thus comments could have true threading to organize discussions.

Alternatively you could do it like Batato did. Having a general forum for the comic that anyone can make threads for to discuss various things about said comic that isn't necessarily tied to a specific chapter. You could also combine the existing system with that where a thread on the comics forum is generated for each chapter and that thread auto loads for the comments part of the chapter you are on, but someone can also make chapter independent threads for that comic to have discussions.

Either way, as Mrincognito said we should have the name of the manga and chapter or thread title showing in notification rather than a id number. Is this really the first time you've heard a suggestion like this Teasday? *blinks incredulously*
 
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I'm suggesting a better way, and so far no one has commented on it yet.
It sounds like you're asking for a screwdriver so you can hammer in a nail?

The entire first half of your post really sounds like what you want is a watchlist for threads, which as I said is a planned feature. If such a thing is implemented, the main reason why you want this kind of goes away.
 
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@truepurple

Each Manga has two types of Comment Threads sections.
Each Chapter has a Thread where the topic is to comment on each chapter of the manga.
Each Manga has a Thread to comment on the Manga as a whole.

When you go to Forums you click a topic and you click NEW THREAD to create a Thread.

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The current system for Labeling Chapter comment Threads as numbers is probably because if Mangadex did it the way you wanted it, people would start complaining about how BLOODY WALL OF TEXT the notifications would be.


I got a notification like this, almost fills up ONE notification line. KEEP IN MIND THAT IF IT'S MUCH LONGER THAN THIS, It would become TWO LINES for this notification.

BenSWOLO in Netflix Lists a Documentary Film about Anime for August 5th.

What you're proposing is filling everyone's notification section with garbage like this.

BenSWOLOtakemenowOHGODYOURSOHOTTHOTSBEGONE in The Villainess' Slow Prison Life Began With Her Broken Engagement Chapter 2 Comment Thread

Can you imagine how it would look like when you start getting more like commenting on the same manga? I CAN, HIDEOUS AND TEDIOUS AS SHET. Like really?

BenSWOLOtakemenowOHGODYOURSOHOTTHOTSBEGONE in The Villainess' Slow Prison Life Began With Her Broken Engagement Chapter 2 Comment Thread
Zephyrus in SHUT UPP
BenSWOLOtakemenowOHGODYOURSOHOTTHOTSBEGONE in The Villainess' Slow Prison Life Began With Her Broken Engagement Chapter 2 Comment Thread
Holo in How to Cake it Sucks
BenSWOLO in BENSWOLO is the best meme
BenSWOLOtakemenowOHGODYOURSOHOTTHOTSBEGONE in The Villainess' Slow Prison Life Began With Her Broken Engagement Chapter 2 Comment Thread
Holo in How to Cake it Sucks
BenSWOLOtakemenowOHGODYOURSOHOTTHOTSBEGONE in The Villainess' Slow Prison Life Began With Her Broken Engagement Chapter 2 Comment Thread
Zephyrus in SHUUUUT UUUUUUPPPPPP
BenSWOLOtakemenowOHGODYOURSOHOTTHOTSBEGONE in The Villainess' Slow Prison Life Began With Her Broken Engagement Chapter 2 Comment Thread
Zephyrus in SHUUUUUUUT UUUUUUUUUPPPPPPP

Hell no, you wonder why no one told Teasday this is a great idea? BECAUSE IT'S NOT, THAT's WHY.

*edited wording: 9/11/19
 
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@Teasday posted:

If you don't like the forums, that's a different conversation and it's being actively worked on and should be one of the next bigger updates.
 

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