@JustNatsuki posted:
They're always allowed to make a new account and post in the comment section. I don't know where you're getting the idea that this will prevent them from presenting their side.
Sure, but we've been talking about like a single, specific notice post, preferably a short one, not a comment section full of arguments which I thought was the entire point of your suggestion in the first place. New accounts aren't even necessary, we're specifically not talking about people who have been banned but who just don't want uploads on the site.
MD will at some point have to make a stand/give a position.
This entire suggestion revolves around the complaint that people keep posting questions about missing chapters instead of spending 5 minutes investigating themselves, so it's basically just about sating people's curiosity. There's no "stand" to be made here. We're not talking about, like, debates that MangaDex has yet to reveal their position on or whatever, it's usually just groups getting frustrated with us for various reasons, be they personal grievances due to getting moderated, disagreements over what kind of content is allowed on the site, and so on. Even saying this probably reveals how obviously biased towards ourselves writing such notices would be. All groups that left on their own are welcome back anytime they want, provided they adhere to our rules, so we don't want to be aggravating them further for no real benefit.
And I don't understand why it's so hard to succinctly state the facts without bias.
Understandable, but this is how reporting always has worked. You can state nothing but verifiable facts all day, but the framing - including which facts you state and which you leave out - has everything to do with the intent and interpretation of the report. The entire process is
inherently biased. In any case, this is veering a bit too into the philosophical side of things so I better stop before it goes too off topic.
And the chapter solution solves all those concerns. Just make a simple form like MD has with the report function, have groups select from a list of reasons why they want their chapters to be removed, and then upload a screenshot of that as a chapter in the manga in that specific language.
To begin with, groups and uploaders are free to delete their chapters on their own whenever and for whatever reason they feel like, so this report thing would just make things more convoluted than necessary. Plenty of people delete their chapters for many reasons besides wanting to quit MD (and then possibly immediately reupload them). Coming up with a list of possible reasons would be both long and uncomprehensive.
Not to mention I just don't like the idea of having a massive dump of dummy chapters all just saying they're deleted, and I seriously doubt the vast majority of the userbase would appreciate it either.
I feel like you're too focused on what the haters may think without realizing that haters are always gonna hate, no matter what you do. The more mature members of the community will support you in your decisions.
First off, that's demonstrably false since we have indeed had people quit and come back. There are haters who aren't always gonna hate. Second, and since we're talking about maturity, I'm less focused on what the haters may think as I am on having to design and develop features frankly only because annoyingly many overly curious people would rather write questions than read answers.
